Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD 2003

2003-06-02 Thread Gregg Kemp
Thank you, Guillermo, for the knowledge and wisdom you contributed to pinhole day, and to what you contribute to the list throughout the year. Long live El Salvador and long live Toronto! - Gregg On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, G.Penate wrote: Well, Taco, It is like Dirk Nowitzski, the German basketball

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD 2003

2003-06-02 Thread Wally Wolfgang Thoma-Schuermans
G.Penate wrote: Well, Taco, It is like Dirk Nowitzski, the German basketball player, star of the Dallas Mavericks, he may play and live in the USofA for the greater part of the year, but when it comes to International Events, I am pretty sure he plays for Germany. I am no star, just

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD 2003

2003-06-02 Thread Wally Wolfgang Thoma-Schuermans
Richard Heather wrote: Actually it seems that there are 1159 submissions! Richard Heather - Original Message - From: James Kellar pinh...@jameskellar.com Hi all, Now that WPPD 2003 is now over I want to thank every one that made it all possible. That not only goes to all the

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD 2003

2003-06-02 Thread Guillermo
- Original Message - From: Richard Heather rheat...@slonet.org Actually it seems that there are 1159 submissions! That is right Richard, but only 1082 hang in the gallery, the remainder 77 were rejected for not complying with the submission rules (i.e., only one image per participant)

RE: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD 2003

2003-06-02 Thread andy schmitt
I don't know about that James... I think it was the people who ran this gave us the opportunity to join together 'round the world that deserve the BIG ROUND OF APPLAUSE! thanks andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD

2003-04-28 Thread Guy Glorieux
End of April represent a compromise, when the northern hemisphere is in spring and the southern one is in autumn. Guillermo (speaking for myself) Who can't plant flowers outside in the flower bed until 3rd week of May w/o risking them to frost!!. Hey Guillermo, Remember the snow storm we

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD

2003-04-28 Thread Guillermo
- Original Message - From: Michael Healy mjhe...@kcnet.com WWPD is under the belt! And it has been a great experience. I spent about 5 hours lugging around the 4x5, in the heat, I should say. We had ninety four degree heat today. My film turned to jelly. My brain fried like bacon.

RE: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD

2003-04-27 Thread George L Smyth
Bob - Mine will take a little while. I went to the Frederick Keys' game today a took a series of shots. I should have something to present later in the week.Cheers - george-http://GLSmyth.comhttp://DRiPInvesting.org--- On Sun 04/27, Bob Arnott lt; b...@bobarnott.com gt; wrote:From: Bob

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD winding down!

2002-05-30 Thread Gregg Kemp
At 12:30 PM 5/30/2002 -0400, you wrote: How do we access these Emil addresses? I can't seem to find them. Is this a browser thing? Or am I looking in the wrong place. If anyone is unable to see the email address at the bottom of the photo page, please send me an email stating what browser

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD winding down!

2002-05-30 Thread MERSTUDIO
In a message dated 5/30/02 8:57:12 AM, pinh...@jameskellar.com writes: I just wanted to remind everyone that you only have 2 days left to submit you pinhole images to the WPPD 2 gallery. So if you have been putting off getting your photographs to be included in this years gallery I suggest

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD winding down!

2002-05-30 Thread Andrew Amundsen
James Kellar pinh...@jameskellar.com wrote: While looking at the site you might notice that email address have been added to each photo. Thanks to Gregg Kemp for setting up in a way that you could get in touch with the individual artist, but the robots that collect email address so they can

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD 2002 - Boston, MA

2002-04-26 Thread R Duarte
You could come by the Cambridge Center for Adult Ed in harvard square where Richard Koolish and I are doing a 2-day workshop. I think you'd have to be a paid attendee to use the darkroom with us, but you could always come to hang out, make images and generally convivilate. :) Rob. From: Thom

RE: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD 2002 - Baltimore, MD

2002-04-26 Thread peregoy
We sometimes think about how close we are in the internet, tied together through our computers, but we are sometimes close in real life and don't even know it. I live just three blocks from John's exhibit at the BO Roundhouse, and I'll definatly be there on Sunday morning to see his exhibit

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD 2002/San Francisco

2002-04-25 Thread Guy Glorieux
Great going, Eric and your whole team! Wish you happy light, lots of good weather and lots of fun with this project! It's a lot of work to get these things organized so I wish you lots of participants! Guy - Original Message - From: Eric S. Theise mat...@cyberwerks.com To: Pinhole

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD 2002 Event News

2002-01-31 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 1/30/02 8:40:20 AM, news@p at ??? writes: April 28, is a little less than three months away. Seems like a long time, but it could be just two or three lengthy exposures... Who else in the world would understand this insanity? I LOVE IT! leezy

Re: [pinhole-discussion] (WPPD 2002 Special Events) A Post-Holiday Wish

2002-01-06 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 1/5/02 7:48:23 PM, twmil...@mr.net writes: Hi Leezy, Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day is Sunday, April 28, 2002. It looks like it would fit right in. Tom WONDERFUL! Great motivator. Thanks, Tom

Re: [pinhole-discussion] (WPPD 2002 Special Events) A Post-Holiday Wish

2002-01-05 Thread Tom Miller
Hi Leezy, Worldwide Pinhole Photography Day is Sunday, April 28, 2002. It looks like it would fit right in. Tom - Original Message - Tom, What is the date? Perhaps I can coordinate it with my class that begins Jan. 23 and ends in May. Thanks, leezy

Re: [pinhole-discussion] (WPPD 2002 Special Events) A Post-Holiday Wish

2002-01-05 Thread B2MYOUNG
Tom, What is the date? Perhaps I can coordinate it with my class that begins Jan. 23 and ends in May. Thanks, leezy

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD site navigation

2001-05-05 Thread Gregg Kemp
At 05:58 PM 5/5/01 -0400, you wrote: Gregg, It looks great and works fine. Thank you for all your efforts. leezy Thanks leezy, and you're very welcome. Glad it all worked out. Gregg _ Pinhole Visions at http://www.??? Worldwide

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD site navigation

2001-05-05 Thread B2MYOUNG
Gregg, It looks great and works fine. Thank you for all your efforts. leezy

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD site navigation

2001-05-04 Thread Jean Daubas
Gregg, Thanks for this great improvement ! Navigation is really comfortable now and gives all visitors a true freedom of choice! Bravo Gregg ! Jean - Original Message - From: Gregg Kemp gregg.kemp@p at ??? To: Pinhole Discussion List pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Saturday,

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD - THE MOST CHALLENGING PART

2001-04-05 Thread Ana Maria Schultze
Gregg, since yesterday: At 11:31 PM 4/4/01 -0500, you wrote: http://www.pinholeday.org Coordinating Team Gregg Kemp, (USA) (leader) Zernike Au (Hong Kong) Diana Bloomfield (USA) Jean Daubas (France) Larry Fratkin (USA) Guy Glorieux (Canada) James Kellar (USA) Edward Levinson

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD - THE MOST CHALLENGING PART

2001-04-05 Thread Jean Daubas
- Original Message - From: Guy Glorieux guy.glori...@sympatico.ca To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD - THE MOST CHALLENGING PART The deep wisdom of pinhole... Guy Temi wrote: http://www.pinholeday.org

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD - THE MOST CHALLENGING PART

2001-04-05 Thread Guy Glorieux
The deep wisdom of pinhole... Guy Temi wrote: http://www.pinholeday.org Coordinating Team Gregg Kemp, (USA) (leader) Zernike Au (Hong Kong) Diana Bloomfield (USA) Jean Daubas (France) Larry Fratkin (USA) Guy Glorieux (Canada) James Kellar (USA) Edward Levinson (Japan) Pam

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD - THE MOST CHALLENGING PART

2001-04-05 Thread Gregg Kemp
At 11:31 PM 4/4/01 -0500, you wrote: http://www.pinholeday.org Coordinating Team Gregg Kemp, (USA) (leader) Zernike Au (Hong Kong) Diana Bloomfield (USA) Jean Daubas (France) Larry Fratkin (USA) Guy Glorieux (Canada) James Kellar (USA) Edward Levinson (Japan) Pam Niedermayer (USA) Guillermo

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD - THE MOST CHALLENGING PART

2001-04-05 Thread George L Smyth
--- Temi t...@temioriginals.com wrote: http://www.pinholeday.org Coordinating Team Gregg Kemp, (USA) (leader) Zernike Au (Hong Kong) Diana Bloomfield (USA) Jean Daubas (France) Larry Fratkin (USA) Guy Glorieux (Canada) James Kellar (USA) Edward Levinson (Japan) Pam Niedermayer

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info

2001-02-28 Thread Pam Niedermayer
I'm about ready to put you into our volunteer press core database. Please let me know if it turns out you can't translate and/or distribute. Pam Vladimir Mikovic wrote: Hello Guy, hello all, Here in Belgrade I have some contacts with people from local papers and TV. I plan to have the

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info

2001-02-27 Thread Pam Niedermayer
That's wonderful, Vladimir. Diana Bloomfield and I are working with Guy to produce a marketing/publicity plan. Since there's no way we can actually do all the publicity ourselves, we'd planned to put together a package that could be used by anyone to promote the day wherever they live. I'd love to

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info

2001-02-25 Thread Guy Glorieux
Great point you've made about having one or more women on the committee, Pam. Just back from a day out of home and submerged with mail, but I'll catch up. It seems your point about members from around the world is great also and we'd like to hear from list members from Latin America and from

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info

2001-02-25 Thread Pam Niedermayer
Great, certainly would make for an even more successful event. I think it's great that there are members from around the world. Pam Larry Fratkin wrote: Hi Pam and rest, I would like to see as much diversity as we can get on the committee. Larry -- Pamela G. Niedermayer Pinehill

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info

2001-02-25 Thread Larry Fratkin
, 2001 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info I suspect that no one did; but that doesn't mean there isn't interest. Leezy, for example, has been quite active in getting this whole thing started, in on it at the beginning. Perhaps, a big perhaps because I don't

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info

2001-02-25 Thread Gregg Kemp
leezy - thanks. I don't want to speak for others but I feel sure you will be contacted very soon to start working out the details of scanning places around the globe. - Gregg At 01:33 PM 2/25/01 -0500, you wrote: In a message dated 2/25/01 12:26:27 PM, pam_p...@cape.com writes: Leezy,

RE: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info

2001-02-25 Thread Gregg Kemp
Actually, the makeup of the committee was not accidental. The people on the steering committee were invited by James and myself and based on several years of knowing their skills and contributions to the list. Both James and I also wanted representation from around the globe. The current

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info

2001-02-25 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 2/25/01 12:26:27 PM, pam_p...@cape.com writes: Leezy, for example, has been quite active in getting this whole thing started, in on it at the beginning. Perhaps, a big perhaps because I don't really know what her desires are, she'd like to be asked. I'm fine with everything

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info

2001-02-25 Thread Pam Niedermayer
I'm pretty new here, Michael; I'm so new to pinhole that I'm still in the making the camera/lens board stage, have never taken a pinhole photo; Austin, TX is very well represented by George Smyth; and I'm not that fond of committee work. All of which is why I didn't respond to the specific

RE: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info

2001-02-25 Thread Michael Keller
Pam, are you volunteering to be on the steering committee? Or are you waiting to volunteer for another committee? I'm sure the makeup of the committee is entirely accidental, but a message was sent asking for folks to volunteer. Obviously, many didn't.

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info

2001-02-25 Thread Pam Niedermayer
Thank you, Guillermo. The expressed support from committee members is most appreciated. Pam G.Penate wrote: - Original Message - From: Pam Niedermayer pam_p...@cape.com Seems to me there must be one or two women who belong on this committee. Now this is just a supposition based

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info

2001-02-25 Thread Pam Niedermayer
: I wonder how many expressed an interest! -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Pam Niedermayer Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 2:44 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole

RE: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info

2001-02-25 Thread Jeff Dilcher
I wonder how many expressed an interest! -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of Pam Niedermayer Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 2:44 AM To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info

2001-02-25 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message - From: Pam Niedermayer pam_p...@cape.com Seems to me there must be one or two women who belong on this committee. Now this is just a supposition based on rough numbers, I'm too new to the group to know this for sure, certainly too new to know who they may be. But

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Steering Committee more info

2001-02-25 Thread Pam Niedermayer
Seems to me there must be one or two women who belong on this committee. Now this is just a supposition based on rough numbers, I'm too new to the group to know this for sure, certainly too new to know who they may be. But I think it's worth the committee's consideration. Pam James Kellar wrote:

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD ISSUE VOTE

2001-02-22 Thread GarfinkelDesign
I guess I misunderstood his letter. He mentioned getting info in by the 24th

RE: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD ISSUE VOTE

2001-02-22 Thread Gregg Kemp
I'm not sure if James will be in e-mail contact for the next few hours, so I'll clarify about the voting. First - we are NOT voting yet. We are collecting the various ISSUES that need to be voted on. We will all have the chance to vote after everyone has had a chance to add their issues (by

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-22 Thread GarfinkelDesign
Hello All: I still really like this logo, the pinhole is like the shape of the earth and the other oval is like the projection map we looked at. Both give the feeling of the earth... etc while communicating what we do, which is photography (pinhole) - we are showing a few changing pinhole

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-22 Thread Pam Niedermayer
Thank you, Wendy. Here's an animated version with photos stolen from George Smyth, Guillermo Penate, and Robyn Gough. I really like all three; but they're included here for illustration since I've not yet received permission to use them. http://www.pinehill.com/WWPPDLogoAnimated.html Pam

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD

2001-02-20 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 2/20/01 3:34:43 AM, dalf...@aol.com writes: Sorry, Leezy, maybe I just took or read interpreted your comment wrong, am not sure which... it all reminds me again how fragile our communiques can be, given this medium.. Apologies to all for my misunderstanding, DAlfrey

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD

2001-02-19 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 2/18/01 6:48:48 PM, dalf...@aol.com writes: No offense intended, but I do think it should not be counted out simply because of your personal experience, this is a democratic forum after all, I think/ hope. Agreed. I just asked as a favor, given the many choices we are

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo suggestion

2001-02-19 Thread Colin Talcroft
Yes, it seems to me that given the creative bunch we have here, a logo contest would be the way to go I was just trying to improve on the design that existed at the moment. Colin __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo!

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD

2001-02-18 Thread Kosinski Family
is merely difficult, not impossible. Suggest the name be dropped immediately. Jim K -Original Message- From: dalf...@aol.com dalf...@aol.com To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Date: Sunday, February 18, 2001 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD

2001-02-18 Thread Larry Fratkin
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD In a message dated 2/18/01 2:22:32 PM Central Standard Time, b2myo...@aol.com writes: PLEASE do not call it Pinholes Without Borders. A family friend, who works for Doctors Without Borders, My apologies for proffering the name/title Pinholes Without

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD

2001-02-18 Thread DAlfrey
In a message dated 2/18/01 2:22:32 PM Central Standard Time, b2myo...@aol.com writes: PLEASE do not call it Pinholes Without Borders. A family friend, who works for Doctors Without Borders, My apologies for proffering the name/title Pinholes Without Borders on 2 counts, I did not

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-18 Thread Richard Heather
Where' the pinhole? I added one: http://www.slonet.org/~rheather/wwpd.html Richard Heather Michael Keller wrote: Since everyone else has taken a turn, take a look at http://www.wvsbha.org/wwpd.jpg

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD

2001-02-18 Thread Guy Glorieux
Larry, This is a good idea. I was mulling over that myself last night during a period of insomnia. It would be nice if we could also mention Eric Renner's Pinhole Resource involvement in the creation of this event. It would give it greater breadth for those that are not active with Pinhole

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-18 Thread GarfinkelDesign
I like Pams logo as well. Nice Color and treatment of the name friendlier. Wendy

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-18 Thread George L Smyth
--- Pam Niedermayer pam_p...@cape.com wrote: This needs a lot of work, but is generally what I had in mind: http://www.pinehill.com/WWPPDLogo.gif Pam PS I stole/borrowed one of George Smyth's pinhole images since I didn't have anything scanned. It's for illustration purposes only. Hey,

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-17 Thread Figurefoto
In a message dated 2/17/01 7:48:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, m.w.kel...@verizon.net writes: Since everyone else has taken a turn, take a look at http://www.wvsbha.org/wwpd.jpg NICE! Harry A HREF=http://www.figurefoto.com/;Figurefoto.com/A

RE: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-17 Thread Michael Keller
Since everyone else has taken a turn, take a look at http://www.wvsbha.org/wwpd.jpg

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-17 Thread Figurefoto
In a message dated 2/17/01 5:40:17 PM Pacific Standard Time, pinh...@jameskellar.com writes: I like this one better than the others.Also I agree that we should all kick in a buck or two to help pay the bills,afterall we are a FAMILY ,right? Harry A

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-17 Thread Guy Glorieux
Scott Sellers wrote: Hi all, Regarding the WPPD logo, how about using a Mollweide projection map, Actually, I kind of like the Hammer projection better. http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/gmt/gmt/doc/html/GMT_Docs/node98.html It has something more pinholy to me, I can't figure out why. Perhaps all

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-17 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 2/17/01 12:56:29 PM, guy.glori...@sympatico.ca writes: If paying for a domain reg. is OK with James, it is OK with me. and me too. leezy

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo and Money

2001-02-17 Thread James Kellar
Lets hold on a bit. I don't mind paying $13 for the first year, but before we start getting ahead of yourselfs. Remember this might happen this year and then fizzle out next year. How about if I take care of the first year, and then we see what happens. It's been a long time ago but, I did

RE: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-17 Thread Andy Schmitt
To: pinhole-discussion@p at ??? Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo Andy, Thanks for checking. Just a typo. jk on 2/17/01 9:46 AM, Andy Schmitt at aschm...@warwick.net wrote: world pinholephotographyday.com ___ Pinhole-Discussion mailing

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-17 Thread James Kellar
George, Thanks, I was going to use register.com, which I believe has a $35 charge. I will have to remember that when I renew my own site. james on 2/17/01 12:20 PM, George L Smyth at glsm...@yahoo.com wrote: Just thought I'd mention that if you are looking to register a name, you may want to

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-17 Thread James Kellar
I thought of that, and it bothers me a bit. I will look around to see if I can find that shows a diffrent part of the earth. Maybe we can have more then one. BTW I got the image from the NASA web site. It is my understanding that NASA does not copyright most of there images, but I have sent a

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-17 Thread Guy Glorieux
G.Penate wrote: I like World Wide Pinhole Photography Day. The WW clearly IMO speaks about the universality of the event and also about that is happening in cyberspace (WORLD WIDE -web-). I'll vote for that too! Something simpler like www.PINHOLEDAY.com or perhaps www.pinholeday.ORG

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-17 Thread G.Penate
- Original Message - From: b2myo...@aol.com WWPPD (world wide pinhole photography day) or what happened to IPPD (International Pinhole Photography Day) I like World Wide Pinhole Photography Day. The WW clearly IMO speaks about the universality of the event and also about that is

RE: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-17 Thread Michael Keller
Picture's too sharp for a pinhole.g |-Original Message- | | |I just came up with a logo for World Pinhole Photography Day, you |can see it |at http://www.jameskellar.com/wppdlogo.jpg. What does every one think?

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-17 Thread B2MYOUNG
In a message dated 2/17/01 10:07:05 AM, guy.glori...@sympatico.ca writes: Great logo! I like it! worldpinholephotographyday.com is a bit long but could'nt be more specific. Actually I prefer it to wppd.com... Guy or WWPPD (world wide pinhole photography day) or what happened to IPPD

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-17 Thread James Kellar
Andy, Thanks for checking. Just a typo. jk on 2/17/01 9:46 AM, Andy Schmitt at aschm...@warwick.net wrote: world pinholephotographyday.com

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-17 Thread Guy Glorieux
Great logo! I like it! worldpinholephotographyday.com is a bit long but could'nt be more specific. Actually I prefer it to wppd.com... Guy James Kellar wrote: I just came up with a logo for World Pinhole Photography Day, you can see it at http://www.jameskellar.com/wppdlogo.jpg. What does

Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-17 Thread B2MYOUNG
Logo looks good to me. Thank you. leezy

RE: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-17 Thread Andy Schmitt
cool go for it...I presume you aren't going to leave a space between World Pin.. nice job andy -Original Message- From: pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ??? [mailto:pinhole-discussion-admin@p at ???]On Behalf Of James Kellar Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 9:05 AM To: Pinhole