Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-07-01 Thread Tony Firshman
Tony Firshman wrote, on 10/Jun/10 10:20 | Jun10: Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 10/Jun/10 10:17 | Jun10: These were from a vast quantity of QL parts I bought from a trader living in East London, near Ilford I think. I have forgotten his name - can anyone remember? He died I believe in the early

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-07-01 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Tony Firshman wrote, on 10/Jun/10 10:20 | Jun10: Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 10/Jun/10 10:17 | Jun10: These were from a vast quantity of QL parts I bought from a trader living in East London, near Ilford I think. I have forgotten his name - can anyone remember? He died I believe in the early

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-07-01 Thread Tony Firshman
Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 1/Jul/10 11:01 | Jul1: Tony Firshman wrote, on 10/Jun/10 10:20 | Jun10: Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 10/Jun/10 10:17 | Jun10: These were from a vast quantity of QL parts I bought from a trader living in East London, near Ilford I think. I have forgotten his name - can anyone

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-28 Thread Urs Koenig (QL)
Stephen Usher wrote: Well, I see that there are two issues with the QL legacy, one which gives a QL-like experience (i.e. SuperBASIC etc.) and emulation for running old programs. Now, for the former, I can see a niche market just waiting to be filled. Firstly, read this link:

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-28 Thread Bob Spelten
Op Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:30:30 +0300 schreef Urs Koenig (QL) q...@bluewin.ch: Stephen Usher wrote: Well, I see that there are two issues with the QL legacy, one which gives a QL-like experience (i.e. SuperBASIC etc.) and emulation for running old programs. Now, for the former, I can see a niche

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-28 Thread Stephen Usher
Urs Koenig (QL) wrote: I agree with Stephen if we talk about (complete) novices (like my children of age 10 and 8). I will try to explain my son the basics of a computer program by using SuperBASIC with QemuLator in fullscreen mode on our family notebook. Some FOR/NEXT loops (e.g. FOR i=1 to 7

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-28 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message 4c27d9ef.4010...@lingula.org.uk, Stephen Usher st...@lingula.org.uk writes Good evening, I've actually been thinking more about this over the day... Malcolm Cadman wrote: Hi Steve, Nice link ... :-) Chris Curry and Clive Sinclair originally worked together, and then split with

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-28 Thread QL-Mylink
[Beginners All Symbolic Instruction Code - 'BASIC'] Stephen said - ... I'd disagree greatly with a lot of these arguments for people just starting out. Line numbers, although a pain for advanced programmer, do help novices think about order. Data types confuse things and make it more complex

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-28 Thread Tony Firshman
QL-Mylink wrote, on 28/Jun/10 22:51 | Jun28: [Beginners All Symbolic Instruction Code - 'BASIC'] Stephen said - ... I'd disagree greatly with a lot of these arguments for people just starting out. Line numbers, although a pain for advanced programmer, do help novices think about order. Data

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-27 Thread Stephen Usher
Good evening, I've actually been thinking more about this over the day... Malcolm Cadman wrote: Hi Steve, Nice link ... :-) Chris Curry and Clive Sinclair originally worked together, and then split with the Acorn/Sinclair rivalry ( friendly though ). Coming back to together with a common

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-16 Thread QL-Mylink
Dilwyn said - ...OK, it'll always be handy to be able to write quick s*basic programs for my own use . === now George has said - .Rewriting for a PC or whatever is just not an

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-16 Thread Urs Koenig (QL)
for the Future. ;-) Urs ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-13 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 12/06/10 19:49, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Design and make a new 21st Century successor to the QL ... :-) Not wishing to be the bear in the ointment here, but that suggestion - while a grand one - will no longer work. In my opinion, back in the 80s fine, there were lots and lots of computer

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-13 Thread Anton Preinsack
Am 13.06.2010 um 13:59 schrieb Norman Dunbar: On 12/06/10 19:49, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Design and make a new 21st Century successor to the QL ... :-) Not wishing to be the bear in the ointment here, but that suggestion - while a grand one - will no longer work. In my opinion, back in the

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-13 Thread gdgqler
On 13 Jun 2010, at 13:43, Anton Preinsack wrote: More possibilities (please not, that I am aware, that this is wishful thinking): A original QL with some addons (and maybe with additional Sinclair spectrum-compatibility) in a FPGA (like the Minimig in the Amiga-scene) for the Retro-Fans

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-13 Thread Anton Preinsack
Am 13.06.2010 um 15:01 schrieb gdgqler: On 13 Jun 2010, at 13:43, Anton Preinsack wrote: More possibilities (please not, that I am aware, that this is wishful thinking): A original QL with some addons (and maybe with additional Sinclair spectrum-compatibility) in a FPGA (like the

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-13 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.uk Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 2:26 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future Hmm - I have 523 on my list in the UK (all with email addresses) Rich has told us he has a list

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-13 Thread Malcolm Cadman
statements may appear somewhat foolhardy to future onlookers ... :-) -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-12 Thread John Sadler
On Wednesday 09 June 2010 07:29, John Sadler wrote: The QL Community is steadily reducing in size. So what can we do to stop the QL disappearing into oblivion? Other old computers have survived by ensuring that emulators programs exist in the public domain. The QL does have public domain

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-12 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message 201006100754.18894.j...@supanet.com, John Sadler j...@supanet.com writes On Wednesday 09 June 2010 07:29, John Sadler wrote: The QL Community is steadily reducing in size. So what can we do to stop the QL disappearing into oblivion? Other old computers have survived by ensuring

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-11 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:29 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future However, I have a mailing list of over 1000 QL users and it is rare that any of them ask

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-11 Thread Rich Mellor
On 11/06/2010 13:12, Geoff Wicks wrote: -- From: Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.uk Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:29 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future However, I have a mailing list of over 1000 QL users

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-11 Thread Urs Koenig (QL)
A case in point is the QL Wiki at http://www.rwapadventures.com/ql_wiki Great innovation to the QL and retro community. Good job Rich. Unfortunately, despite my best efforts, the main contributors to the QL Wiki remain myself and Dilwyn Jones. When I ask for comments / feedback or

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-11 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: Rich Mellor r...@rwapservices.co.uk Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 2:26 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future On 11/06/2010 13:12, Geoff Wicks wrote: -- From

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-11 Thread Norman Dunbar
Evening Urs, Currently there are just a few documents, 41 videos and 1000+pictures online. My main backlog is the documents which many of them were already scanned (single pages) but need to be glued into single PDFs. Are they scanned as image files (Ok, possibly a stupid question!) because I

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-10 Thread Tony Firshman
Rich Mellor wrote, on 10/Jun/10 06:07 | Jun10: snip As for Marcel's and Jochen's comments about posting information on wikis being regarded as self-advertising - well, there are some views on this: 1. Surely the software / hardware designers are best positioned to provide the background of

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-10 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I must say Rich is doing a great job selling my shed-rescued stock. Derek Stewart completely filled his car with it! As I found out from Urs, I had some historic old pcbs in the collection. Unfortunately I believe most pcbs have now been scrapped. They were a great source of spare parts,

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-10 Thread Tony Firshman
Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 10/Jun/10 10:06 | Jun10: These were from a vast quantity of QL parts I bought from a trader living in East London, near Ilford I think. I have forgotten his name - can anyone remember? He died I believe in the early 90s. Tony Care Electronics...Ed Bruley perhaps? No.

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-10 Thread Dilwyn Jones
This mailing list is probably the most frequently populated part of QL-Dom - and even here goes deathly quiet at times. Now look what you've done, it's more active today! My Articles in QL Toady are a mystery to me. Not that I don't know what I'm writing (well, most of the time I do!) but the

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-10 Thread Dilwyn Jones
These were from a vast quantity of QL parts I bought from a trader living in East London, near Ilford I think. I have forgotten his name - can anyone remember? He died I believe in the early 90s. Tony Care Electronics...Ed Bruley perhaps? No. He was working on his own. He bought a vast

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-10 Thread Tony Firshman
Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 10/Jun/10 10:17 | Jun10: These were from a vast quantity of QL parts I bought from a trader living in East London, near Ilford I think. I have forgotten his name - can anyone remember? He died I believe in the early 90s. Tony Care Electronics...Ed Bruley perhaps?

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-10 Thread Marcel Kilgus
gdgqler wrote: Marcel's and Jochen's comments made me think twice about considering adding information about my TurboPTR on Rich's site. Oh god, I wasn't trying to discourage anybody from contributing to the wiki! TurboPTR not being commercial it's a different situation anyway, in my opinion at

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-10 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Marcel Kilgus wrote: gdgqler wrote: Marcel's and Jochen's comments made me think twice about considering adding information about my TurboPTR on Rich's site. Oh god, I wasn't trying to discourage anybody from contributing to the wiki! TurboPTR not being commercial it's a different situation

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-10 Thread Tony Firshman
Jerry Davis wrote, on 10/Jun/10 12:02 | Jun10: I thought I'd stop lurking and post I only joined this group a few weeks ago out of pure curiosity. Many, many moons ago I set up the London sub-group with the help of Frank Merrison. University, the discovery that there was life outside London,

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-10 Thread Bruce N
Tony, Was it Dennis Briggs aka Adman Services ? Bruce Thursday, June 10, 2010, 10:13:21 AM, you wrote: TF Dilwyn Jones wrote, on 10/Jun/10 10:06 | Jun10: These were from a vast quantity of QL parts I bought from a trader living in East London, near Ilford I think. I have forgotten his name

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-10 Thread Tony Firshman
Bruce N wrote, on 10/Jun/10 13:21 | Jun10: Tony, Was it Dennis Briggs aka Adman Services ? No - he lived in East London, maybe Gants Hill. He was the person that kicked the component and rebuilt QL trading into life when he sold his stock. I don't think he actively traded them. He

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-10 Thread Jochen Merz
Dear George, Marcel's and Jochen's comments made me think twice about considering adding information about my TurboPTR on Rich's site. I was referring to self-advertising for commercial products. I regard any encyclopedia (online or offline) as something which should be as unbiased as

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-10 Thread Jochen Merz
Hi Rich, Believe it or not, there is still a burgeoning market out there for retro computers - I rely on them for my main source of income at the moment (since I was made redundant in December) and have successfully brought several new products to market (or made old ones available again),

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-10 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message 4c10c9a5.40...@firshman.co.uk, Tony Firshman t...@firshman.co.uk writes Jerry Davis wrote, on 10/Jun/10 12:02 | Jun10: I thought I'd stop lurking and post I only joined this group a few weeks ago out of pure curiosity. Many, many moons ago I set up the London sub-group with the

[Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-09 Thread John Sadler
The QL Community is steadily reducing in size. So what can we do to stop the QL disappearing into oblivion? Other old computers have survived by ensuring that emulators programs exist in the public domain. The QL does have public domain emulators but they are a haste to use. The problem is

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-09 Thread Tony Firshman
John Sadler wrote, on 9/Jun/10 08:29 | Jun9: The QL Community is steadily reducing in size. So what can we do to stop the QL disappearing into oblivion? Other old computers have survived by ensuring that emulators programs exist in the public domain. The QL does have public domain emulators

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-09 Thread Rich Mellor
On 09/06/2010 08:29, John Sadler wrote: The QL Community is steadily reducing in size. So what can we do to stop the QL disappearing into oblivion? Other old computers have survived by ensuring that emulators programs exist in the public domain. The QL does have public domain emulators but

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-09 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Tony Firshman wrote: Surely there is not enough spare cash to buy QPC2 and Qprint, even if JMS (and Marcel) wanted to sell. I've not heard of the proposal before, but I'm generally open to suggestions. QPCPrint (as the standalone executable it is now) is not for sale as its target audience

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-09 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Rich Mellor wrote: However, none of the other traders or even Quanta have entered any information about their own products (I say traders, but we all know how many there are left in the QL community!). In these cases I normally follow the rules for Wikipedia which basically say you shouldn't

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-09 Thread George Gwilt
Rich Mellor wrote: On 09/06/2010 08:29, John Sadler wrote: The QL Community is steadily reducing in size. So what can we do to stop the QL disappearing into oblivion? Other old computers have survived by ensuring that emulators programs exist in the public domain. The QL does have

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-09 Thread Martin Wheatley
I came on this list a couple of days ago. I was a QL user for many years and a regular attender at the London group. Some of you may even remember me I stopped using the QL a number of years ago and moved out of London. In an idle moment I wondered what was happening and rejoined the list.

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-09 Thread Rich Mellor
On 09/06/2010 20:17, Martin Wheatley wrote: I came on this list a couple of days ago. I was a QL user for many years and a regular attender at the London group. Some of you may even remember me I stopped using the QL a number of years ago and moved out of London. In an idle moment I

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-09 Thread Bill Loguidice
-d.com] On Behalf Of Rich Mellor Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 3:29 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future On 09/06/2010 20:17, Martin Wheatley wrote: Hi Martin, It is good to see you contributing to the list and maybe we can persuade you to have a go on one

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-09 Thread Rich Mellor
...@lists.q-v-d.com [mailto:ql-users-boun...@lists.q-v-d.com] On Behalf Of Rich Mellor Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 3:29 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future On 09/06/2010 20:17, Martin Wheatley wrote: Hi Martin, It is good to see you contributing to the list

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-09 Thread Geoff Wicks
-- From: Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 12:10 PM To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future Tony Firshman wrote: Surely there is not enough spare cash to buy QPC2 and Qprint, even if JMS

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-09 Thread Norman Dunbar
Evening all, SO are you content to see the QL disappear into oblivion OR are you going to do something about it? Well, I write articles for QL Toady (for no payment by the way) and hopefully, that helps keep the QL - in any shape or form alive. I also have the http://qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-09 Thread Anton Preinsack
Am 09.06.2010 um 21:17 schrieb Martin Wheatley: I came on this list a couple of days ago. I was a QL user for many years and a regular attender at the London group. Some of you may even remember me I stopped using the QL a number of years ago and moved out of London. In an idle moment

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future - Never Say Die

2010-06-09 Thread Derek Stewart
On 09/06/10 21:21, Anton Preinsack wrote: Am 09.06.2010 um 21:17 schrieb Martin Wheatley: I came on this list a couple of days ago. I was a QL user for many years and a regular attender at the London group. Some of you may even remember me I stopped using the QL a number of years ago and

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-09 Thread SMSQ - Jochen Merz
Hi Norman, My Articles in QL Toady are a mystery to me. Not that I don't know what I'm writing (well, most of the time I do!) but the lack of feedback from almost everyone in the entire world - I sometimes feel that I'm writing for three people - Me, George and a chap called Hugh Rooms who

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future - Never Say Die

2010-06-09 Thread Tony Firshman
On 09/06/10 21:21, Anton Preinsack wrote: SD/SF Card Readers are quite easy to do, most CF readers can plug into the IDE Interface. But the card has to be formatted to SMSQ/E or QDOS. Reading and writing to FAT formatted Card is another story, no device drivers. ... well that fits in

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-09 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message 428105907.20100609131...@kilgus.net, Marcel Kilgus ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net writes Tony Firshman wrote: Surely there is not enough spare cash to buy QPC2 and Qprint, even if JMS (and Marcel) wanted to sell. I've not heard of the proposal before, but I'm generally open to

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-09 Thread Malcolm Cadman
In message e1omqmr-0007an...@outmx02.plus.net, Martin Wheatley mart...@martinwheatley.plus.com writes I came on this list a couple of days ago. I was a QL user for many years and a regular attender at the London group. Some of you may even remember me I stopped using the QL a number of years

Re: [Ql-Users] The QL Future

2010-06-09 Thread Rich Mellor
On 09/06/2010 21:42, SMSQ - Jochen Merz wrote: One last point, no-one makes money from the QL any more do they? It's a hobby now, that's all. I would think so too. I enjoy doing the magazine and hope to add my share to keep the QL scene alive... as you will be able to see when the new issue