Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread Tony Firshman
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 at 21:07:54, Dave P wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Ironically, this is more-or-less what Nasta designed as the Aurora II. My only discomfort over Nasta's design is that he is extremely concerned about efficiency of space. Therefore, he's crammed an awful lot into a very

Re: Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread dilwyn.jones
To develop a board for a laptop is an interesting proposition. It's about the same as the challenge of developing a board for a PC, but with additional power challenges. The QL uses such minimal power that unless we are using Coldfire this can be ignored. If a QL-replacement board

Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread dilwyn.jones
Remember, each different GDI printer needs its own driver... I have mentioned this so many times. ProForma as it stands will only print to printers for which it has drivers and there are no ESC/P raster drivers. The cheap printers have no emulations. Even the expensive printers often have

[ql-users] SER/PAR to PFF

2004-11-26 Thread dilwyn.jones
Rich Mellor and I mentioned a SER/PAR to PFF string exchanger, along the lines of the old MDV to FLP string converters. I had a go at writing this last night. The coding was fairly straightforward and a simple INPUTSearch for... INPUTReplace with... ALCHP LBYTES SEXEC type of program exists

Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread Rich Mellor
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 23:32:40 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 at 19:10:03, Rich Mellor wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 13:00:34 -0600 (CST), Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I know I could have used a serial lead but there is no longer

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Joachim Van der Auwera
Rich Mellor wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 20:43:29 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25 Nov 2004 at 18:46, Rich Mellor wrote: Just add a graphics filter. I'll let this stand as is. I have no idea how easy it is to pass a PIC file to Proforma - Joachim?? Great to know that

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 01:33:47 -, P Witte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wolfgang Lenerz writes: To to this within the device driver will be a non trivial task because you wil have to open a filing system channel from withing the open call of a non filing system device driver. That's what

Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 07:46:45 +, Derek Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I do not want to run Linux or Windows, so that makes the current laptops a non starter. Derek Ooh - a call for QPC 1 :-) -- Rich Mellor RWAP Services 26 Oak Road, Shelfield, Walsall, West Midlands WS4 1RQ

Re: Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread dilwyn.jones
Of course there is. What is wrong with qtpi? That will work with any old terminal program on any platform. Have never used qtpi I must admit - now here's another possible article for Quanta if someone wants to write it.. How to use QTPI and/or transfer files between the QL and PC.

Re: Re: [ql-users] SER/PAR to PFF

2004-11-26 Thread dilwyn.jones
The other option is to check the word before the string to see if it contains the right length (ie. 3 to 6 characters??). If the value 3 then just check for permitted characters at the end of the SER or PAR device (eg. ser1ex) - not too sure what the allowable characters are and my

Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread dilwyn.jones
I have no idea how easy it is to pass a PIC file to Proforma - Joachim?? Great to know that PROforma has existsed for (I think) close to ten years now, and still hardly anybody knows anything about it :-( The term is more like knew rather than knows. I probably have forgotten more about it

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 11:46:04 +0100, Joachim Van der Auwera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rich Mellor wrote: Trouble is Per, that you cannot do all this within a device driver because it is running in supervisor mode. I also understand that a non-directory device cannot open a channel to a file

Re: [ql-users] Questionnaire

2004-11-26 Thread Tarquin Mills
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tony Firshamn wrote: We have about 50 on-line replies already so far - very encouraging. It is interesting seeing some old names popping up that I had thought were long away from the QL scene, notably Frank Davis and Michael Cronsten. Does anyone know who Ole

Re: Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread dilwyn.jones
Ooh - a call for QPC 1 :-) -- Rich Mellor What makes you think he wants to run DOS??? Dilwyn Jones Yeah but at least you could set up the boot sector to boot straight into QPC1 and therefore avoid seeing DOS altogether (could you not?? Or was that just QXL) ?? -- Rich Mellor

Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread dilwyn.jones
Rich Mellor wrote: Does anyone have some source code I could look at for creating THINGs and using them?? Need more than a simple example I guess - would of course not disclose it to anyone without permission if it is for a commercial product 1) Have a look at Jochen's THING articles

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 26 Nov 2004 at 1:33, P Witte wrote: (...) On the Open call the PFF device driver's primary functions are decode the name check the details set up and configure a channel definition block yes, indeed! If all of the above are ok then, on exiting, set the calling job's

Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 25 Nov 2004 at 20:44, Rich Mellor wrote: The trouble is locating them - if these printers are so readily available at low prices, then what exactly are we developing this for as the QL can already output PCL 3 (just not the later versions). Well all I (innocently) did to get this started

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 26 Nov 2004 at 10:10, Rich Mellor wrote: (...) I wonder why it will not print from QPC2. ?? Me too! If the same printer prints from the Q60, QPC should be able to handle it, too. Unless it's the way the printer port is set up in your bios (ECP EPP and whatnot) ? Wolfgang

Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 26 Nov 2004 at 10:06, Rich Mellor wrote: (...) I still think that Di-Ren's software was a good idea - it allowed you to use the hard disk on a PC for storage - now if that could be used to store files within a QXL.WIN file on the PC Guess you'll say just run QTPI on both the QL and from

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 26 Nov 2004 at 11:46, Joachim Van der Auwera wrote: As the thing will be called in supervisor mode itself, it could just keep track of some ready for use channels which are then passed to the device driver when needed. Then the problem is fully solved. The thing itself checks whether

Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 26 Nov 2004 at 13:11, Rich Mellor wrote: (...) Basically yes - Di-rens fileserver program allowed you to use the PCs hard drive as storage for the QL - useful for backups at least - no need for a QL emulator and all the header info etc was automatically stored and retrieved when you

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread P Witte
Rich Mellor writes: Or skip the Thing altogether and make its fuctionality part of the PFF device driver: On the Open call the PFF device driver's primary functions are decode the name check the details set up and configure a channel definition block If all of the

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread P Witte
Rich Mellor writes: Hmm - still hoping someone will put themselves forward to look at writing the THING Does anyone have some source code I could look at for creating THINGs and using them?? Need more than a simple example I guess - would of course not disclose it to anyone without

Re: [ql-users] SER/PAR to PFF

2004-11-26 Thread P Witte
Dilwyn Jones writes: What I hadn't foreseen was a difficulty with the strings SER and PAR which don't happen with MDV, FLP, FDK or whatever. SER and PAR can occur within ordinary text and mess up the program. For example, my program swapped the words Service and Pardon to PFFvice and

Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:54:49 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25 Nov 2004 at 20:44, Rich Mellor wrote: The trouble is locating them - if these printers are so readily available at low prices, then what exactly are we developing this for as the QL can already output PCL 3

Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:18:23 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 Nov 2004 at 13:11, Rich Mellor wrote: (...) Basically yes - Di-rens fileserver program allowed you to use the PCs hard drive as storage for the QL - useful for backups at least - no need for a QL emulator and

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:12:46 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 Nov 2004 at 11:46, Joachim Van der Auwera wrote: As the thing will be called in supervisor mode itself, it could just keep track of some ready for use channels which are then passed to the device driver when

Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread Tony Firshman
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 at 10:06:45, Rich Mellor wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 23:32:40 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 at 19:10:03, Rich Mellor wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 13:00:34 -0600 (CST), Dave P [EMAIL

Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread Tony Firshman
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 at 13:11:08, Rich Mellor wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:00:39 +0100, Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] lenerz.com wrote: On 26 Nov 2004 at 10:06, Rich Mellor wrote: (...) I still think that Di-Ren's software was a good idea - it allowed you to use

Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread Tony Firshman
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 at 13:29:46, Tarquin Mills wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Rich Mellor wrote: Basically yes - Di-rens fileserver program allowed you to use the PCs hard drive as storage for the QL - useful for backups at least - no need for a QL emulator and all the header info etc was

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Joachim Van der Auwera
P Witte wrote: Rich Mellor writes: Hmm - still hoping someone will put themselves forward to look at writing the THING Does anyone have some source code I could look at for creating THINGs and using them?? Need more than a simple example I guess - would of course not disclose it to anyone

Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread Dave P
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004, Tony Firshman wrote: ... but he isn't costing his time (8-)# If he did, the community would have been laid to rest LONG ago. I think we should all give a round of applause for Nasta... I must say I enjoy, especially with RomDisq, in getting a small compact PCBs, and it

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread P Witte
Joachim Van der Auwera writes: A device driver can never setup a job. You didnt read my algorithm: It doesnt. All it does is to CAUSE the calling job to do that. This is an accepted tequnique in Qdos. Don't think so. I would like to know the details about how that would be done. How

[ql-users] QD

2004-11-26 Thread Michael Grunditz
Hi all , Is there a way to have a normal cursor instead of a x in QD ? /Michael ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

RE: [ql-users] Quanta

2004-11-26 Thread Tarquin Mills
Duncan Neithercut wrote: The final statement is the killer to close down the discussion at a premature stage by requesting volunteers for an unspecified project with no known resources and an indeterminate closure. This is from Classic committee tactics to block something new - read the UK

Re: [ql-users] QD

2004-11-26 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Michael Grunditz wrote: Is there a way to have a normal cursor instead of a x in QD ? x means that it uses a sprite that cannot be displayed in the current colour mode. As it uses the system sprites you have probably loaded some system sprites that are incompatible with your colour mode. Marcel

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: I wonder why it will not print from QPC2. ?? Me too! If the same printer prints from the Q60, QPC should be able to handle it, too. Unless it's the way the printer port is set up in your bios (ECP EPP and whatnot)? USB vs parallel connection? Just my guess.

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread John Hall
John Hall wrote: I think you'll find that the JCB is only updated when a task switch occurs... When a TRAP#n is executed, the PC and SP are saved on the supervisor stack, hence WL's earlier comment... Oops! PC and SR, of course :-) In supervisor mode, the job's SP is in the USP... Now I

Re: [ql-users] QD

2004-11-26 Thread Michael Grunditz
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Grunditz wrote: Is there a way to have a normal cursor instead of a x in QD ? x means that it uses a sprite that cannot be displayed in the current colour mode. As it uses the system sprites you have

Re: [ql-users] QD

2004-11-26 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Michael Grunditz wrote: Oh thats why it displays normal on qpc. How do I solve this ? Well, don't load the high colour sprites. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

[ql-users] October / November Quanta Magazine

2004-11-26 Thread Malcolm Cadman
Hi all, I have just received my copy of the October / November Quanta magazine, and it is back to being quite a good read, with a variety of articles. Well done to Roy Bereton for his editorship. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List

Re: [ql-users] Thru the Looking Glass

2004-11-26 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: David Tubbs Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 9:41 PM Subject: [ql-users] Thru the Looking Glass The thought of Rory Bremner and the Two Johns comes to mind, but here we have Three Johns who have shown themselves to be well and truly on the other side of

Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: Rich Mellor Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter Peter Graf is work on network drivers for the Qx0. What happens if an application crashes while printing, is the PFF device block from further use. Glad to hear

Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 26 Nov 2004 at 13:27, Rich Mellor wrote: (...) Best option is to throw some files at the filter once it is running on a wide number of setups. Everyone uses different translates where one character in Quill is translated to various printer control codes, eg. to use italics, get both the

Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Dave P
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004, gwicks wrote: If you want information from Peter, why don't you email him privately? I had an extensive correspondence with him over QL2004 without any problems. I have always found Peter to speak his own mind. He is always willing to talk by email. I got off to a very

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Me too! If the same printer prints from the Q60, QPC should be able to handle it, too. Unless it's the way the printer port is set up in your bios (ECP EPP and whatnot) Tried all that. It prints fine from the PC and fine from

Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Derek Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi, I do not want to run Linux or Windows, so that makes the current laptops a non starter. Ah but you are a rare beast, Derek. Most people want to do at least one of these other things. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill,

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes USB vs parallel connection? Just my guess. Nope. We tied that. See other posts -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk

Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread Roy wood
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Good point. During my recent XPriences I had to set my PC to boot up from CD, as the CD would not install from DOS. Did you solve the CD problem ? It only occurred to me today that it was probably a lack of higher driver for the IDE bus

Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 13:40:57 -0600 (CST), Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 26 Nov 2004, gwicks wrote: If you want information from Peter, why don't you email him privately? I had an extensive correspondence with him over QL2004 without any problems. I have always found Peter to speak

RE: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Duncan Neithercut
The problem is analysing the data, and the big difficulty with the QL survey is that it will be too biased to the users of this list who may not be typical of Quanta members. Yes but they are typical of active QL users the sort of people Quanta needs to court. What did you say you learned in

RE: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Duncan Neithercut
Geoff He has done a good bit of shooting also and IMHO for his personal satisfaction first leaving aside the needs of the users who have rallied to his call and invested in the Qx0 series, time and real cash! Its also no suprise that now when he appears some people thoughtlessly continue to shoot

Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread James Hunkins
On Nov 26, 2004, at 1:26 AM, Tony Firshman wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 at 21:07:54, Dave P wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) My only discomfort over Nasta's design is that he is extremely concerned about efficiency of space. Therefore, he's crammed an awful lot into a very small 6-layer PCB. I

Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread James Hunkins
Malcolm, As an alternative on your side can't you set your email program to wrap the lines for you? Both my email programs do this automatically and all the emails that I have received from this list are fitted automatically to my window width which is great! If someone forces hard stops in

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread James Hunkins
Hi think that I saw Marcel ask this but if not: Lets say that we come up with a way to print to a modern printer. But don't all the printers use USB now? How would they connect to the non-QPC QLs (or QPC on older computers without USB)? Cheers, jim

RE: Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread Duncan Neithercut
Dilwyn The simple solution is Compact flash cards. A 256MB card is only £30 in PC World - not the cheapest place either. Readers exist on : Qubide, PC and Qx0. The CF people have decided to use FAT16 format for cards upto 1 GB. I expect but dont know that zip drives under this capacity also use

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 12:49:40 -0800, James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi think that I saw Marcel ask this but if not: Lets say that we come up with a way to print to a modern printer. But don't all the printers use USB now? How would they connect to the non-QPC QLs (or QPC on older

Re: [ql-users] The hardware conflict...

2004-11-26 Thread Dave P
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004, James Hunkins wrote: I would presume that he is using a couple of the layers for power and ground, which will help a lot with the higher speeds and tend to keep noise off the signals. Also, in manufacturing these days I believe in higher quantities that 6 layers isn't

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Tony Firshman
On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 at 21:23:49, gwicks wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message - From: Rich Mellor Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:54 PM Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter Yes, the survey MAY shed some light on the subject - however, what's the betting that

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 21:43:33 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 at 21:23:49, gwicks wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message - From: Rich Mellor Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:54 PM Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter Yes, the

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Rich Mellor
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 21:32:50 -, John Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Hall wrote: John Hall wrote: I think you'll find that the JCB is only updated when a task switch occurs... When a TRAP#n is executed, the PC and SP are saved on the supervisor stack, hence WL's earlier comment...

Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread gwicks
- Original Message - From: Rich Mellor Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:47 PM Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter Fair enough, but all I want is for him to post a message to the mailing list or even one of the magazines, letting us know what developments are happening every now

[ql-users] May Day, May Day

2004-11-26 Thread David Tubbs
Not waving - drowning ! The first 60 of todays avalanche amounted to 287642 bytes in 6110 lines. removing the voluminous headers - 2497 lines. down to 2000 without signatures 1100 lines of largely irrelevant quoted text A net 900 lines 31kb. Is this really the medium for the task ?

Re: [ql-users] Proforma Filter

2004-11-26 Thread Tony Firshman
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 at 22:12:26, Rich Mellor wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 21:43:33 +, Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 at 21:23:49, gwicks wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message - From: Rich Mellor Sent: Thursday,

Re: [ql-users] October / November Quanta Magazine

2004-11-26 Thread Tony Firshman
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 at 22:14:29, gwicks wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Original Message - From: Malcolm Cadman Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 6:47 PM Subject: [ql-users] October / November Quanta Magazine I have just received my copy of the October / November Quanta magazine,

Re: [ql-users] May Day, May Day

2004-11-26 Thread Tony Firshman
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 at 23:00:51, David Tubbs wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Not waving - drowning ! The first 60 of todays avalanche amounted to 287642 bytes in 6110 lines. removing the voluminous headers - 2497 lines. down to 2000 without signatures 1100 lines of largely irrelevant quoted

Re: [ql-users] May Day, May Day

2004-11-26 Thread David Tubbs
There really is no need to include all the rubbish. Tony PS but I sometimes forget of course. -- Not 'arf ! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

Re: [ql-users] Questionnaire

2004-11-26 Thread John Southern
Hello All, Thank you Tony for the hard work and everyone who has taken the time to reply. As the first few paper copies start to hit the letterbox, I can report that so far we have had 38 replies (both Quanta member and Non Quanta members). The main systems are listed as :- 12 QPC 10 Aurora 5

Re: [ql-users] Questionnaire

2004-11-26 Thread Tony Firshman
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 at 23:33:54, John Southern wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Hello All, Thank you Tony for the hard work and everyone who has taken the time to reply. As the first few paper copies start to hit the letterbox, I can report that so far we have had 38 replies (both Quanta member