Re: non-disruptive speech ?

2005-11-07 Thread JMHACLJ
In a message dated 11/6/2005 9:17:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So let’s understand – the next kid that tells my 7 year old that we are going to hell, which whether Rick agrees or not is always where that conversation goes, is going to get a basic

Re: non-disruptive speech ?

2005-11-07 Thread JMHACLJ
In a message dated 11/6/2005 12:40:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While it may not be acceptable at school, it seems to me it is based, in some part, on the notion of fighting words, which is recognized in Free Speech jurisprudence (admittedly in the context

Re: non-disruptive speech ?

2005-11-07 Thread Steven Jamar
I have a black belt in the game of go.  Does that count?  :)SteveOn Nov 7, 2005, at 8:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/6/2005 9:17:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So let’s understand – the next kid that tells my 7 year old that we are going to hell,

Re: non-disruptive speech ?

2005-11-07 Thread FRAP428
In a message dated 11/7/05 8:48:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but it doesn't change that Free Speech Doctrine so that words suddenly rise to the level of fighting words because select, fragilely constructed individuals, act as though words are likely to provoke an

RE: non-disruptive speech ?

2005-11-07 Thread Newsom Michael
I thought that we were talking about the United States? I was. -Original Message- From: Volokh, Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 5:24 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: non-disruptive speech ? Well, Catholics, as I understand

RE: non-disruptive speech ?

2005-11-07 Thread Volokh, Eugene
-disruptive speech ? I thought that we were talking about the United States? I was. -Original Message- From: Volokh, Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 5:24 PM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: RE: non-disruptive speech ? Well

non-disruptive speech ?

2005-11-06 Thread Joel Sogol
Rich Duncan says: The law is clear that public school students do not shed their free speech rights at the public schoolhouse door. They have a clear right to engage in non-disruptive speech. Discussing the doctrine of salvation by faith is not hate speech. It is quite the opposite

Re: non-disruptive speech ?

2005-11-06 Thread Brad Pardee
Are you seriously suggesting that a kid who talk to your 7 year old about religion in a way that you find offensive is going to be physically assaulted by your child? That's not just unacceptable at school. It's criminal, and I cannot conceive of why you would permit your child to respond to

Re: non-disruptive speech ?

2005-11-06 Thread FRAP428
In a message dated 11/6/05 11:47:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you seriously suggesting that a kid who talk to your 7 year old about religion in a way that you find offensive is going to be physically assaulted by your child? That's not just unacceptable at school.

RE: non-disruptive speech ?

2005-11-06 Thread Joel
06, 2005 8:32 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: non-disruptive speech ? If I understand Joel correctly, the next time a peer informs my son, a 3d Degree Black Belt, that it is homophobic to discriminate against same-sex marriages, my son ought tokick the hateful

RE: non-disruptive speech ?

2005-11-06 Thread Rick Duncan
, November 06, 2005 8:32 AMTo: Law Religion issues for Law AcademicsSubject: Re: non-disruptive speech ? If I understand Joel correctly, the next time a peer informs my son, a 3d Degree Black Belt, that it is "homophobic" to discriminate against same-sex "marriages," my son ough

Re: non-disruptive speech ?

2005-11-06 Thread Paul Finkelman
. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Duncan Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 8:32 AM To: Law Religion issues for Law Academics Subject: Re: non-disruptive speech ? If I understand

RE: non-disruptive speech ?

2005-11-06 Thread Volokh, Eugene
rom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul FinkelmanSent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 12:15 PMTo: Law Religion issues for Law AcademicsSubject: Re: non-disruptive speech ?Rick the difference is that you or your son could teach and learn to be tolerant about

Re: non-disruptive speech ?

2005-11-06 Thread Paul Finkelman
le don't like their ideologies challenged. Eugene -Original Message- From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Finkelman Sent: Sunday, November 06, 200512:15 PM To: Law Religion issues for LawAcademics Subject: Re: non-disr

RE: non-disruptive speech ?

2005-11-06 Thread Volokh, Eugene
sure" is defined. Eugene -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul FinkelmanSent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 1:26 PMTo: Law Religion issues for Law AcademicsSubject: Re: non-disruptive speech ?"Entitled" do

Re: non-disruptive speech ?

2005-11-06 Thread Steven Jamar
have evidence rules in U.S. courts. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick DuncanSent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 8:32 AMTo: Law Religion issues for Law AcademicsSubject: Re: non-disruptive speech ?  If I understand Joel correctly, the next time a peer informs my son, a