Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

2009-02-20 Thread Chuck Kelsey
This is going to be a bigger problem than many stations may have anticipated. A friend of mine has an all-channel antenna on a rotor and can get 20 analog stations. He purchased a converter to see what he could get in digital. He can only get four, and three of those pixilate quite badly.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

2009-02-20 Thread Gary Glaenzer
butBut...BUT... I thought The Almighty and Everlasting Digital Signal (Praise Be To Its Bits Eternally, Ignore That Pixellating Behind The Curtain ! ) was going to cure all the supposed ills of that nasty old NTSC demon Can it be that ONCE AGAIN, we were

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

2009-02-20 Thread Barry
Maybe your digital is less versatile than our here in Au ? I live a long way from the tx site and experience little degredation with my nice shiny new set top box and antenna . Or maybe your analogue setup simply doesn't work well on the wrong frequencies ? To:

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

2009-02-20 Thread Gary Glaenzer
Hey, I checked and found the problem Here, the value of a '1' is really 0.9985 and '0' = 0.0015 Digital' is not true digital at all, but the creators of the system said 'Close enough, those rubes in the flatlands of IL will never notice!' Let's get 'da gubmint' involved in fixing this, I'm

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

2009-02-20 Thread Chris Curtis
-snip-   Pessimist About All Things Digital, Gary in IL   -snip- I HEAR THAT! =] Kill off my analog C-band for pizza dish channels stacked 20 to a transponder. Kill off my analog Motorola 550 flip phone [about 2 bath size soap bars] for gurgling under water conversations. Kill off my analog

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

2009-02-20 Thread Chris Curtis
As long as they send more gubmint cheese with them naughts and unns, we-all in Missouri Ozarks will be just fine! Chris Kb0wlf From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Glaenzer Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:03 AM To:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - an interesting antenna design

2009-02-20 Thread Barry
I wonder if your govco has enough left after dubya has had his way to even commission a study for repair let alone an actual fix ? Digital either works or it don't , we all know that so why do some find it so hard to understand ? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: glaen...@verizon.net

[Repeater-Builder] OT DTV

2009-02-20 Thread Ralph S. Turk
Good morning All The following is a new FCC web site for DTV Follow instructions carefully. Wait for the program to calculate info. Seems to be one of the best. Confirms what I know from working in the TV business for 30+ years. Last several installing DTV.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT DTV

2009-02-20 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I just checked this against my location and the results were woefully inaccurate. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Ralph S. Turk To: Repeater-Builder Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:19 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT DTV Good morning All The following is

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Got some noise from a fan in the system

2009-02-20 Thread wb0vhb
One thing to remember with the M10 is that it belongs to the same family as the M120 and GM300. Your fan(s) MAY be causing vibrations in the receive or transmit radio rather than radiated RF noise. There have been many problems with receive microphonics at high receive volume levels and weird TX

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT DTV

2009-02-20 Thread Paul N1BUG
Yup. Woefully inaccurate (too optimistic) for my location too, but after zooming all the way in I am impressed with their terrain data. :-) Chuck Kelsey wrote:  I just checked this against my location and the results were woefully inaccurate. Chuck WB2EDV

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT DTV

2009-02-20 Thread Chuck Kelsey
I had mixed results. It said I'd get stations that I can't and said I won't get stations that I do. Same thing for another location I checked. Chuck - Original Message - From: Paul N1BUG paul_n1...@myfairpoint.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Got some noise from a fan in the system

2009-02-20 Thread Mike Dietrich
I've made this same setup many times. I usually mount a fan blowing directly on the TX radio. I then put a 50 ohm 10 watt power resistor in the line to the fan with a 1000 uf capacitor 25 volt capacitor to ground on the fan side of the resistor. This setup will take out most or all of the dc

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Got some noise from a fan in the system

2009-02-20 Thread Rick Beatty
Good Morning Peter -- Before I can suggest anything I need some more information. Is this a Motorola repeater, in a cabinet with a motorola power supply? Are you using a motorola RIC, basically - what is the configuration of the repeater? I ask this because it has been well documented in the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT DTV

2009-02-20 Thread Dave Gomberg
At 07:02 2/20/2009, Chuck Kelsey wrote:  I just checked this against my location and the results were woefully inaccurate. I just checked this against my QTH and it was 95% accurate with respect to actual experience. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From:

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT DTV

2009-02-20 Thread Jacob Suter
I find it horribly inaccurate since it doesn’t take into account receiving height. What height are they calculating for? Set-top first-story height? Rooftop? Tower top? At the dirt? I know they didn’t compensate for the 20 ft altitude change between the end of my driveway and the front

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work

2009-02-20 Thread Jacob Suter
How much RF does it take to get a clear NTSC picture? Usable? I know the local cable tower tried to get at least a -20 dBm signal (!!!) on analog TV inputs. Most DTV converter units with published spec's need between -82 dBm and -86 dBm at the antenna jack on the back of the unit to capture a

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Somewhat OT - How to make HDTV *really* work

2009-02-20 Thread Jacob Suter
Outlook needs a 'trigger lock' on the send button... Also, I have no idea why outlook decided to add a bunch of crap to my email. Guess I should be using a decent mail program! edits below: C Most preamps I run into are at least 10 years old. Sure they might still work, but RF transistor

[Repeater-Builder] Re: how to wire a GM338 as a link on a TKR-750

2009-02-20 Thread Rodney Baker
On Feb 18th predahunt01 predahun...@yahoo.com wrote: Im currently working on a TKR-750, and need to wire a GM338 as a link,audio from the TKR-750 to GM338 is not working im using a simple controller for it can anyone give me some advice T_T Take it step by step. Using an oscilloscope (or

[Repeater-Builder] Audio Intelligence Devices BXR-2200A Briefcase Repeater

2009-02-20 Thread David Little
I am looking for any info on an Audio Intelligence Devices (AID) BXR- 2200A briefcase repeater Anyone here have any experience with this, or a pointer on where to look on the web for info? It is a 3 channel, 4 mode setup that operates at 2 and 6 watts with a carrier time-out option for

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Audio Intelligence Devices BXR-2200A Briefcase Repeater

2009-02-20 Thread Milt
I believe that you now have a nice Haliburton aluminum briefcase. Perhaps a DC power supply. The duplexer might be usable as some sort of filter for reception in the high VHF range Unless you are licensed for something in the high section of VHF the rest is just a pile of parts. Of course you

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT DTV

2009-02-20 Thread Barry
After years of fiddling with digital here as I said it either works or not , any installer worth his salt will install to the signal by simple portable analysis test if need be ( not a cheap machine) and reliance on a web site to me at least makes little sense , remember treating it like