RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-18 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 05:40 PM 03/13/09, you wrote: There seems to be lots of opinions , how about a simple find the problem fella's ? I recently was asked to find some noise on a similar situation . We fired up my promax 577 tuned around a little whilst climbing and found the problem making the fix asy (

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-18 Thread Paul N1BUG
Aircraft handhelds are AM in the 120MHz region. Some handheld scanners do aircraft AM just fine. Ah! Somehow that hadn't occurred to me. The president of our club is a pilot and has one. I guess there are no weak, constant signals in the aircraft band (?) but maybe it's not necessary. I

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-18 Thread mwbesemer
Paul, Actually, if you're near enough to the airport, you should be able to hear the ATIS (Automatic Termininal Information System) broadcast. It repeats airfield/weather information continously. That'd be a constant (although perhaps not weak) signal in the aircraft band. Mike WM4B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-18 Thread Mike Naruta AA8K
And, if it will tune the 108 MHz to 118 MHz band, you could receive a nearby VOR. mwbese...@cox.net wrote: Paul, Actually, if you're near enough to the airport, you should be able to hear the ATIS (Automatic Termininal Information System) broadcast. It repeats airfield/weather

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-18 Thread Chuck Kelsey
: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower Aircraft handhelds are AM in the 120MHz region. Some handheld scanners do aircraft AM just fine. Ah! Somehow that hadn't occurred to me. The president of our club is a pilot and has one. I guess there are no weak, constant

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-18 Thread mwbesemer
. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: Paul N1BUG paul_n1...@myfairpoint.net To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower Aircraft handhelds are AM in the 120MHz region

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-18 Thread daniel haines
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:10:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower Paul, Actually, if you're near enough to the airport, you should be able to hear the ATIS (Automatic Termininal Information System) broadcast. It repeats airfield/weather information

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-18 Thread Laryn Lohman
Aircraft handhelds are AM in the 120MHz region. Some handheld scanners do aircraft AM just fine. My VX5R handheld does AM over much/most? of it's receive coverage. So does my Icom IC2350 mobile rig. The aircraft band should work well, but there's nothing magical or special about sniffing

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-14 Thread neal Newman
-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 9:22 PM Yeah, I was going to suggest a simplified version of what you're talking about - climb the tower with a little AM transistor radio tuned to a weak station, key

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-13 Thread Ryan
Replace all electrical fixtures, i had a site they was was using sub standard fixtures that was creating all sorts of havoc. and this solved all duplex issues. Ryan n3ssl

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-13 Thread Barry
structure) replacing them with stainless instead of galv... B ( google the 577 as they are very useful) To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: n3...@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 00:04:14 + Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-13 Thread Jeff DePolo
There seems to be lots of opinions , how about a simple find the problem fella's ? I recently was asked to find some noise on a similar situation . We fired up my promax 577 tuned around a little whilst climbing and found the problem making the fix asy ( some wire clamps on the

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-13 Thread Paul N1BUG
Yeah, I was going to suggest a simplified version of what you're talking about - climb the tower with a little AM transistor radio tuned to a weak station, key the transmitter on and off, and see if you can find a noise hot spot or anything that when moved or vibrated causes the noise level to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-13 Thread Barry
Should do the trick although it might take som more effort... maybe your neighbour works for a satellite or comms company , couple of beers ? To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com From: j...@broadsci.com Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:40:57 -0400 Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-12 Thread wb8art
Hello Paul, Worked you a few times many moons ago. I would agree with Jeff with tapping and slightly causing movement with the repeater up with a weak signal. I have before experiened both an antenna (stationmaster) with internal broken joint which caused severe noise and desense but

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-12 Thread Paul N1BUG
Hi Randy, I remember working you on 2 meters. That is very interesting. I tried bonding all the joints. If anything it actually seemed to make things worse!? I have been seriously thinking about Phillystran. It's a big expense not knowing for sure where the problem lies, but the only way to

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-12 Thread hankjr941
Im having the same issue with my repeater on a 100 ft tower guyed with 3/16 In a message dated 3/12/2009 3:39:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, paul_n1...@myfairpoint.net writes: Hi Randy, I remember working you on 2 meters. That is very interesting. I tried bonding all the joints.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-12 Thread hankjr941
Sorry, I have the same problem with my repeater on a 100 foot tower guyed with 3/16 cable. It seems when the temp drops below 60 F I get a squeal in the RX side of my repeater. I can shake the tower when its doing it and it will go away for a few minutes. We went up and grounded the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-12 Thread Michael Ryan
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hankjr...@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:59 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower Sorry, I have the same problem with my repeater on a 100 foot tower guyed with 3/16 cable. It seems when

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-12 Thread kerinvale
---Original Message--- From: Michael Ryan Date: 03/13/09 08:13:06 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower I have far less experience with this sort of thing than most anyone here but IMHO towers that are guyed SHOULD have insulators

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-12 Thread Jake
I suspect I'm having similar issues on my tower - Nello 25N, 150' tall, 3/16 EHS, big grips grounding at tower base - guywires are bonded together and grounded to a single pole at each guy point). Do you mean connecting the guywires back to the tower itself, or connecting the towerbase to

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-12 Thread Nate Duehr
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kerinvale Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:28 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-12 Thread Don Kupferschmidt
? Or are there docs or web sites that can be referred to? TIA, Don, KD9PT - Original Message - From: Nate Duehr To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:18 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower This fixes the RF problem

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-12 Thread kerinvale
: Nate Duehr Date: 13/03/2009 10:18:50 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower This fixes the RF problem, but creates a new one… the guy anchors can now explode in a direct lightning strike if your shorting wires don’t give up

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-12 Thread wb8art
: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:18 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower This fixes the RF problem, but creates a new one. the guy anchors can now explode in a direct lightning strike if your shorting wires don't give up first. if the lightning thinks the path

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Quieting duplex noise from a tower

2009-03-12 Thread Nate Duehr
Hell, if half the MOTOROLA-INSTALLED towers around here were built to their own specs, I'd be impressed. Most of them are using screw in guy anchors with no dead-mans, and are a good dust-up of wind away from falling over. Haven't seen a Moto-tower yet that met R-56 around here! You gotta