[Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

[tracomm]

Found several sources for the Zetron 15 pin connector used on most
Zetron repeater controllers and auto patch units.

The connector is a Phoenix Contact connector,  part number is 1757145.
http://www.phoenixcontact.com/ http://www.phoenixcontact.com/

Available from Allied Electronics or Mouser, price about $12.50 plus
shipping

Also available from:
Kurt Meltzer
mre1...@yahoo.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/Zetron-Repeater-Controller-Terminal-Block-Connector-\
38A-/120461718953?cmd=ViewItempt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c0c13f5a9
http://cgi.ebay.com/Zetron-Repeater-Controller-Terminal-Block-Connector\
-38A-/120461718953?cmd=ViewItempt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c0c13f5a\
9

Kurt also has a large selection of repeater cables and interface
connectors.
http://shop.ebay.com/mre1032/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg=_trksid=\
p4340
http://shop.ebay.com/mre1032/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg=_trksid\
=p4340

GMRS Inc

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@...] On Behalf Of tracomm
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:33 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin)
used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ??
GMRSINC

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

[Jose Aguilar]

 
tks, eric, but i was just confirming the correct description of the pin. i am 
very familiar with z38max . i have 15 in actual use!!
73
jose
 
 
--- On Tue, 4/13/10, Eric Vincent eric...@telus.net wrote:


From: Eric Vincent eric...@telus.net
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 12:59 AM


  





Hello Jose,
Yes, your right, it’s only a 15 pin strait in line connector. I’ve looked on my 
manual…
 
I have this type of connector in my stock, please contact me offline for an 
arrangement.
 
73’ Eric VE7YBC  ericvin AT telus DOT net
 
 




De : Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. 
com ] De la part de Jose Aguilar
Envoyé : 12 avril 2010 13:29
À : Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
Objet : Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source
 
  





Z38 is 15 pin (orange) in straight line 

 

 


 

 




From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail. com
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 11:51:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

  


Would that  be 8 on bottom row, 7 on top row? Orange 15 pin connector? I can 
check as well.

 

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202


- Original Message - 

From: Eric Vincent 

To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 

Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:49 AM

Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

 
  


Hello,
How many pin is that connector, I think I have some of these in the inventory…
73’ Eric VE7YBC


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ps.com] On Behalf Of tracomm
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:33 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source
  



Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin)
used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ??

GMRSINC
 

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[Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

[tracomm]

Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin)
  used on most versions, 38,  38A, 38 Max ??


GMRSINC

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

[Eric Vincent]

Hello,

 

How many pin is that connector, I think I have some of these in the
inventory.

 

73' Eric VE7YBC

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yaoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tracomm
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:33 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

 

  

Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin)
used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ??

GMRSINC

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

[La Rue Communications]

Would that  be 8 on bottom row, 7 on top row? Orange 15 pin connector? I can 
check as well.

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Vincent 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:49 AM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source




  Hello,



  How many pin is that connector, I think I have some of these in the inventory.



  73' Eric VE7YBC



  From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yaoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tracomm
  Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:33 AM
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source





  Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin)
  used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ??

  GMRSINC



  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

[Eric Vincent]

Sorry,

 

The one that I have are for Z45 / Z48 .  15 pin into a strait line.

 

73' Eric VE7YBC

 

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[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:51 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

 

  

Would that  be 8 on bottom row, 7 on top row? Orange 15 pin connector? I can
check as well.

 

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202

- Original Message - 

From: Eric Vincent mailto:eric...@telus.net  

To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:49 AM

Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

 

  

Hello,

How many pin is that connector, I think I have some of these in the
inventory.

73' Eric VE7YBC

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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:33 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

  

Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin)
used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ??

GMRSINC

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

[Bill Smith]

They are made by Phoenix Contacts. you can get them from Mouser.

Bill
KB1MGH




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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 12:32:48 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin)
  used on most versions, 38,  38A, 38 Max ??


GMRSINC









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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

[Jose Aguilar]

Z38 is 15 pin (orange) in straight line 



 




From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 11:51:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

  
Would that  be 8 on bottom row, 7 on top row? Orange 15 pin connector? I can 
check as well.
 
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
- Original Message - 
From: Eric Vincent 
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

  
Hello,
How many pin is that connector, I think I have some of these in the inventory…
73’ Eric VE7YBC
From:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater- buil...@yaoogrou 
ps.com] On Behalf Of tracomm
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:33 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source
  
Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin)
used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ??

GMRSINC



  

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

[Eric Vincent]

Hello Jose,

Yes, your right, it’s only a 15 pin strait in line connector. I’ve looked on
my manual…

 

I have this type of connector in my stock, please contact me offline for an
arrangement.

 

73’ Eric VE7YBC  ericvin AT telus DOT net

 

 

  _  

De : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] De la part de Jose Aguilar
Envoyé : 12 avril 2010 13:29
À : Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Objet : Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

 

  

Z38 is 15 pin (orange) in straight line 

 

 


 

 

  _  

From: La Rue Communications laruec...@gmail.com
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 11:51:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

  

Would that  be 8 on bottom row, 7 on top row? Orange 15 pin connector? I can
check as well.

 

John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202

- Original Message - 

From: Eric Vincent mailto:eric...@telus.net  

To: Repeater-Builder@ mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups. com 

Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:49 AM

Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

 

  

Hello,

How many pin is that connector, I think I have some of these in the
inventory…

73’ Eric VE7YBC

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Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Controller Connector-Source

  

Any one have a source for the Zetron interface connector (orange 15 pin)
used on most versions, 38, 38A, 38 Max ??

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[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 30 Worldpatch and a Master 2 repeater ???

[ve2ckn]

Hi

well i wonder if someone here in the group have ever connected an Zetron
30 over the back panel with screews of the Master 2 ?

if you done it,would you have some pictures?

and where the cable,on wich screews it is connectedé

thanks for your help

73/s

gervais ve2ckn

[Repeater-Builder] zetron 48b

[plaimann]

i have a zetron 48b controller ,  running  2 motorola vhf sm50 mobiles via the 
acdcessory connectors.
im having a problem with running a dpl.   when i set the controller to dpl, it 
will key up with no audio , but if i add audio the ctcss light drops and the 
repeater drops.any ideas?i run 2 pl's regularly with no problems.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] zetron 48b

[Tony KT9AC]

Check and see if the DPL is either being presented or programmed as 
inverted. My TP-38 panel is opposite of what I tell it to do, even 
though PL's always work.


On 1/29/2010 3:56 PM, plaimann wrote:


i have a zetron 48b controller , running 2 motorola vhf sm50 mobiles 
via the acdcessory connectors.
im having a problem with running a dpl. when i set the controller to 
dpl, it will key up with no audio , but if i add audio the ctcss light 
drops and the repeater drops. any ideas? i run 2 pl's regularly with 
no problems.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 19 needed

[wa6vpl]

Just in case you can't find a Zetron 19, take a look at this simplex
repeater controller.  I've seen a demonstration on this one and it seems to
work very well.  It sells for about $90.

 

http://www.argentdata.com/products/repeater.html

 

https://www.argentdata.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=27
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2793ecef08c608ab71 osCsid=9764ae4dddb41f2793ecef08c608ab71

 

Jim

 

  _  

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[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KD8BIW
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 11:21 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 19 needed

 

  

I'm in need of a Zetron Model 19 Simplexor store and forward for VOICE.
Please email direct with price and shipping. Thanks!

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 19 needed

[KD8BIW]

I'm in need of a Zetron Model 19 Simplexor store and forward for VOICE.  Please 
email direct with price and shipping.  Thanks!

[Repeater-Builder] zetron model 19 -found one

[Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio]

who ever posted a wtb for zetron model 19
contact me i found one.

 
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 Phone 773. 255. 9838  fax 773.775.8096
see our offerings on
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[Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 20RD Manual...

[kc7stw]

Hello all.

I am looking for a manual.  I have a Zetron Model 20RD Message Repeater.

Anyone have a manual?  Will pay for shipping and cost to copy.

Thanks!

-Jason

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron Gurus?

[Cort Buffington]

Zetron Gurus:

Does anyone out there know if the difference between a Model 38 and a Model 38A 
is software only, or was there a hardware change (beyond EPROM, RAM -- stuff 
involving the software) also?

73 DE N0MJS

--
Cort Buffington
H: +1-785-838-3034
M: +1-785-865-7206

[Repeater-Builder] zetron model 48 repeater manager

[rwjohn49]

Folks,

Got this Zetron 48 at a hamfestnow, I need to unlock it...can you do it 
over the air like a 38A?  I have the book but it is not clear at allNeed 
info on how to program this beastHappy Thanksgiving.

Ron

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A not sending reverse burst

[Nate Duehr]

Just catching up on RB mail after a couple of weeks...

For the record, I learned that turn of phrase (chicken burst)
from reading things here on RB over the years.  I don't know the
history of the phrase.  Chicken to implement true reverse
burst/squelch tail elimination, etc?  I have no idea.
--
  Nate Duehr, WY0X
  n...@natetech.com


On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:10 -0800, Jim Brown w5...@yahoo.com
wrote:



I use several Z-38A controllers in ham applications.  I get
around the squelch crash problem by setting the Z-38A to stop
sending a PL tone as soon as a user unkeys.  The short tail is
still there from the repeater, but the lack of a tone to a
receiver lets the audio shut off while carrier is still present,
and does not generate a squelch crash.
I believe Nate calls this a 'chicken burst' though I have never
heard that term before -
A second benefit of shutting off the tone after a user unkeys is
that it allows in-band links with no ping-pong effects due to the
tails talking to each other.
73 - Jim  W5ZIT
--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net wrote:

  From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A not sending reverse
  burst
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 1:09 PM


You have discovered one of many dirty little secrets that apply
to
aftermarket tone panels. When designing the 38A tone panel, and
many other
products, Zetron overlooked the fact that reverse burst is
essential in the
repeated audio. From a close examination of the 38A manual and
schematics,
it appears that it will decode CTCSS reverse burst and CDCSS
turnoff code,
and MAY generate CDCSS turnoff code, but I see no evidence that
it can
generate reverse burst. That alone is a major shortcoming!
Zetron is not the only manufacturer that ignored reverse burst
encoding when
designing a community repeater controller. Instrument Associates,
which
produced the i20R On-site Repeater Controller for the Motorola
GR1225
desktop repeater, did likewise. I did not realize this until I
found that
squelch crashes were immediately heard as soon as I put the i20R
in service.
Although some fans of the old Highway Patrol shows starring
Broderick
Crawford may enjoy the sound of a squelch crash, I do not, nor do
any of my
radio users. That i20R was pulled from service immediately, and
put on the
shelf!
There are two different formats for CTCSS reverse burst STE
(Squelch Tail
Elimination) that are defined in TIA-603-C, the international
standard for
land-mobile radio performance and design. One format, used
principally by
Motorola, uses a 120-degree phase shift, while the other format,
used by
Kenwood and many others, uses a 180-degree phase shift. Since
modern radios
often use digital signal processing to encode and decode
low-speed data
(CTCSS and CDCSS), it is all too easy to design a circuit that
responds
perfectly to 180-degree phase shift but ignores 120-degree phase
shift, and
vice-versa. Zetron and others couldn't be bothered to create a
CTCSS
encoder that could be switched between the two reverse-burst
formats, so
they just ignored the problem.
73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of wspx472
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:15 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A not sending reverse burst
I am trying to get a repeater going using a 38A and find that it
doesn't
send reverse burst. I thought I saw that it did in the manual but
upon
looking again, all I see is where it responds to reverse burst.
Does anyone
know for sure if it is supposed to send reverse burst? If so, how
do I get
it to do it?




References

1. 
mailto:w5...@yahoo.com?subject=re:%20[Repeater-Builder]%20Zetron%2038A%20not%20sending%20reverse%20burst
2. 
mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com?subject=re:%20[Repeater-Builder]%20Zetron%2038A%20not%20sending%20reverse%20burst
3. 
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4. 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJlc2RhOTllBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwNDE2OARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjMxMDgEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdm1icnMEc3RpbWUDMTI1ODYzOTkwMw--?o=6
5. 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder;_ylc=X3oDMTJkaGkyMG5hBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwNDE2OARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjMxMDgEc2VjA3Z0bARzbGsDdmdocARzdGltZQMxMjU4NjM5OTAz
6. 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJkN21pdnVmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEwNDE2OARncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjMxMDgEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDbnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMjU4NjM5OTAz
7. 
http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=14k9c4lda/M=493064.12016295.13793596.10835568/D=groups/S=1705063108:MKP1/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1258647103/L=/B=F2eDAkPDhEE-/J=1258639903754764/K=KOR8qtxekTH7Rxozg8rs_w/A=5898843/R=0/SIG=11kkq36go

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A not sending reverse burst

[Jim Brown]

I use several Z-38A controllers in ham applications.  I get around the squelch 
crash problem by setting the Z-38A to stop sending a PL tone as soon as a user 
unkeys.  The short tail is still there from the repeater, but the lack of a 
tone to a receiver lets the audio shut off while carrier is still present, and 
does not generate a squelch crash.

I believe Nate calls this a 'chicken burst' though I have never heard that term 
before - 

A second benefit of shutting off the tone after a user unkeys is that it allows 
in-band links with no ping-pong effects due to the tails talking to each other.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

--- On Wed, 11/18/09, Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net wrote:

From: Eric Lemmon wb6...@verizon.net
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A not sending reverse burst
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 1:09 PM







 



  



  
  
  You have discovered one of many dirty little secrets that apply to

aftermarket tone panels.  When designing the 38A tone panel, and many other

products, Zetron overlooked the fact that reverse burst is essential in the

repeated audio.  From a close examination of the 38A manual and schematics,

it appears that it will decode CTCSS reverse burst and CDCSS turnoff code,

and MAY generate CDCSS turnoff code, but I see no evidence that it can

generate reverse burst.  That alone is a major shortcoming!



Zetron is not the only manufacturer that ignored reverse burst encoding when

designing a community repeater controller.  Instrument Associates, which

produced the i20R On-site Repeater Controller for the Motorola GR1225

desktop repeater, did likewise.  I did not realize this until I found that

squelch crashes were immediately heard as soon as I put the i20R in service.

Although some fans of the old Highway Patrol shows starring Broderick

Crawford may enjoy the sound of a squelch crash, I do not, nor do any of my

radio users.  That i20R was pulled from service immediately, and put on the

shelf!



There are two different formats for CTCSS reverse burst STE (Squelch Tail

Elimination) that are defined in TIA-603-C, the international standard for

land-mobile radio performance and design.  One format, used principally by

Motorola, uses a 120-degree phase shift, while the other format, used by

Kenwood and many others, uses a 180-degree phase shift.  Since modern radios

often use digital signal processing to encode and decode low-speed data

(CTCSS and CDCSS), it is all too easy to design a circuit that responds

perfectly to 180-degree phase shift but ignores 120-degree phase shift, and

vice-versa.  Zetron and others couldn't be bothered to create a CTCSS

encoder that could be switched between the two reverse-burst formats, so

they just ignored the problem.



73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

 



-Original Message-

From: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of wspx472

Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:15 AM

To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A not sending reverse burst



I am trying to get a repeater going using a 38A and find that it doesn't

send reverse burst. I thought I saw that it did in the manual but upon

looking again, all I see is where it responds to reverse burst. Does anyone

know for sure if it is supposed to send reverse burst? If so, how do I get

it to do it?






 





 



  






  

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A not sending reverse burst

[wspx472]

I am trying to get a repeater going using a 38A and find that it doesn't send 
reverse burst. I thought I saw that it did in the manual but upon looking 
again, all I see is where it responds to reverse burst. Does anyone know for 
sure if it is supposed to send reverse burst? If so, how do I get it to do it?

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A not sending reverse burst

[Eric Lemmon]

You have discovered one of many dirty little secrets that apply to
aftermarket tone panels.  When designing the 38A tone panel, and many other
products, Zetron overlooked the fact that reverse burst is essential in the
repeated audio.  From a close examination of the 38A manual and schematics,
it appears that it will decode CTCSS reverse burst and CDCSS turnoff code,
and MAY generate CDCSS turnoff code, but I see no evidence that it can
generate reverse burst.  That alone is a major shortcoming!

Zetron is not the only manufacturer that ignored reverse burst encoding when
designing a community repeater controller.  Instrument Associates, which
produced the i20R On-site Repeater Controller for the Motorola GR1225
desktop repeater, did likewise.  I did not realize this until I found that
squelch crashes were immediately heard as soon as I put the i20R in service.
Although some fans of the old Highway Patrol shows starring Broderick
Crawford may enjoy the sound of a squelch crash, I do not, nor do any of my
radio users.  That i20R was pulled from service immediately, and put on the
shelf!

There are two different formats for CTCSS reverse burst STE (Squelch Tail
Elimination) that are defined in TIA-603-C, the international standard for
land-mobile radio performance and design.  One format, used principally by
Motorola, uses a 120-degree phase shift, while the other format, used by
Kenwood and many others, uses a 180-degree phase shift.  Since modern radios
often use digital signal processing to encode and decode low-speed data
(CTCSS and CDCSS), it is all too easy to design a circuit that responds
perfectly to 180-degree phase shift but ignores 120-degree phase shift, and
vice-versa.  Zetron and others couldn't be bothered to create a CTCSS
encoder that could be switched between the two reverse-burst formats, so
they just ignored the problem.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wspx472
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:15 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A not sending reverse burst

  

I am trying to get a repeater going using a 38A and find that it doesn't
send reverse burst. I thought I saw that it did in the manual but upon
looking again, all I see is where it responds to reverse burst. Does anyone
know for sure if it is supposed to send reverse burst? If so, how do I get
it to do it?

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 45B Telephone Interconnect and 64 DAPT Paging Terminal

[bbfmrf]

For Sale:

Zetron Model 45B Z-Patch Telephone Interconnect and

Model 64 DAPT-Plus Dial Access Paging Terminal

Both of these units were in operation when removed from service.  I really have 
no application for this equipment and will take reasonable offers.

Spec information is available by accessing Zetron's web site at zetron.com

Please send your interest and or offers (offline) to:  bbf...@yahoo.com

Thank You.


  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 45

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

Anybody have a manual for a Zetron 45, not a 45B, a 45 ?

Mike WA6ILQ

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 66

[Peter P J]

I got one from the Pager equipment Junk.

Any use for this in a amateur repeater site?

Can we convert it into a Rpt controller for VHF?

Peter

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 66

[Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX]

I have 2 of these in service and it is for the pager industry not a repeater 
controller.  I know of no way to use one on a repeater unless you want it to 
also be a paging transmitter.  It is tone controlled by the paging terminal and 
can output analog voice paging or digital pocsac or golay paging.  It then 
sends a digital square wave.
WB5OXQ

  - Original Message - 
  From: Peter P J 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 10:45 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 66





  I got one from the Pager equipment Junk.

  Any use for this in a amateur repeater site?

  Can we convert it into a Rpt controller for VHF?

  Peter



  

[Repeater-Builder] zetron model45b

[gueorgui2]

hi all, i need help with the zetron z-patch model 45b...the interconnect and 
user manual pdf and if anybody have pc software will be good to have also. i 
have software for radio programming and will trade if interested...thanks!

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron Question

[twoway_tech]

Can anybody tell me if Zetron still supports the Model 45B Z-PATCH or the Model 
38A repeater Panel? I need some/all the chips for them. Or at least the ones 
that are not available from mouser.


Thanks,


Jordan

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 30 Worldpatch user manual

[Adrian]

Hi group,
I am trying to put a repeater here for our club, with a phone patch.
We do have a Zetron Model 30 Worldpatch but we can't find a user manual so we 
are unable to install and programm it.
Did anyone have a scanned copy of the manual?
Thank you very much!
Adrian
yo3hjv

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron M4010 Info. Needed

[tallin...@att.net]

Do any of you LMR folks have schematics and/or module pinouts for the M4010 
dispatch console?  
Specifically, I have an ANI decoder board, #702-9583, from one of these 
consoles 
and I need the pinout (and, preferably, schematic) for it so I can try to 
modify 
it as a stand-alone MDC decoder.  
I tried Zetron; they wouldn't give me the right time of day; and also tried web 
search and came up empty.  
Any and all information will help.  
Geeezz!  You'd think this thing was some sort of state secret or something!  
MDC's only been around for over a decade!  Email me direct or...?  
My email is tallinson2 at yahoo dot? com.  Thanks,
Tom DGN

[Repeater-Builder] zetron

[chrisg7syt]

Anyone have a pdf for a Zetron Model 35 - unit
i need book to set up
 and program.
for a 6mtr repeater in the uk gb3ct thanks from chris

Re: [Repeater-Builder] zetron

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

At 03:15 PM 03/12/09, you wrote:
Anyone have a pdf for a Zetron Model 35 - unit
i need book to set up
  and program.
for a 6mtr repeater in the uk gb3ct thanks from chris

The brochure and the owners manual are on the repeater-builder web site.
We are still looking for the service manual.

Mike WA6ILQ
co-webmaster at www.repeater-builder.com

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 45B Interconnect PDF

[Edward Flipsen]

Hello All 
 
I have in my possession a Zetron 45B user manual PDF I would
like to see posted on the repeater builder web site to whom would I send it 
 
Thanks 
 

Ed Flipsen 

Manager

OnionLake Network Services

edw...@onionlake.ca

306 344 5283Network Services

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[Repeater-Builder] Zetron simulcast delay - looking for manual

[Jeff DePolo]

I have a Zetron simulcast delay unit.  The sticker on it says model #
Simulcast Delay Unit.  In doing some web searches, I think it might be the
same as a Zetron model 62, although it doesn't bear that model number
anywhere on it.  It's a half-rack unit wide, 1 RU high.  Can't find anything
applicable on Zetron's site.  Anyone have a copy of a manual for it?

Thanks.

--- Jeff WN3A

RE: [Repeater-Builder]Zetron 45B

[Ed Flipsen]

 
 
 
 
Good afternoon 
 
  I am looking for the users manual/service manual for
the Zetron 45B interconnect . Anyone have one they wish to sell or lead me
to a source to get one. I inherited a site that has one but no documentation
was found with it 
 
   thanks 
  EdVA6EF
   OLCN  



 

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron controller info needed

[Gareth Bennett (Ihug)]

Happy new year to all on the group!

Recently my organisation inherited a large amount of model 49 LTR controllers 
and the associated Model 2540 FASTnet Switch.
I am hoping that some kind individual has a copy of any relevant technical 
information/manuals or software that they could supply me as the original 
documentation was lost ages ago when the original operator ceased trading.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Best Regards and thanks for reading.

Gareth Bennett

(Technical Services)
Signals NZ Ltd
8 Manor Place
P.O. Box 1439
Dunedin 9015
New Zealand
Phone : 03 425-0895(64 3 425-0895)
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[Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 49 Trunking controllers for sale

[Gareth Bennett (Ihug)]

We have some surplus Zetron Model 49 Trunking controllers for sale,  These are 
in As New condition as were set up and then put into storage as service 
spares that were never utilised. 

Model: 901-9147

Quantity: 7

Looking at $USD 600 each + Shipping

Regards

Gareth Bennett

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Signals NZ Ltd
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P.O. Box 1439
Dunedin 9015
New Zealand
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[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 45-48B db9 cable

[Bill Alexander]

Talked to Zetron this week and here is the factory version of correct 
cable, I noted on the 48B manual in file section had a hand written 
Null cable written in, this will only work on receiving data and not 
talking to zetron controller.

PC  RS232
2  3
3  4
5  5

ON PC SIDE cable JUMPER PIN 4 TO 6 AND PIN 7 TO 8

The color code for cable seems to change, so can not give you any help.
I just cut the end off and used shrink tubing to seal the wires.Works 
well.
Alex kr6g

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 45 48B programing

[Bill Alexander]

Having a hard time understanding how to program these, I would like to 
be able to read the 45 and put that info in the 48b, I know the 
software is different, so will have to retype the settings.

All I would like to do is use the 45 or 48 as a two or three tone 
encoder, decoder. Not using the patch portion.

I'm way over my head in this project, so would appreciate any and all 
help, it is going into a motorola micor repeater for a friend.

Alex kr6g

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron Z48B Programming

[Eric Vincent]

Hi Alex,

You can download the manual on the repeater builder site:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-index.html

 

Look on the manual you will have many possibility for resetting the machine.
Everything you need is there!

 

Good Luck.

Eric VE2VXT

 

 

 

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Objet : [Repeater-Builder] Zentron Z48B Programming

 


Trying to talk to a Z48B, can not find the reset button manual refers
to, to get menu to come up. Making my own null cable, and so far no
communications with computer.

Owner wants to use it only as a tone board for now.

Open for any ideals, woke up a 4am trying to figure what I'm doing
wrong.

Thanks Alex

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron SCU controller

[scomind]

Hi Ian,
 
Does anyone have any info on the unit in question that generated  those 
tones? I'd love to find one - just for memorabilia.
 
That tone format has been around for a long time in  mobile radio (Motorola 
Quik-Call I) and is still being used in  aviation (ICAO SELCAL) to page 
aircraft on the company  channel. A chime informs the flight crew that a  
message 
follows (in case the volume has been turned down -- it happens  when you have 
three radios going... :-).
 
Aviation uses SELCAL on VHF-AM and HF  channels, but on HF the tones are sent 
with amplitude modulation to ensure  proper decoding while the conversations 
take place on  SSB.
 
Our air/ground interconnect and 7330 repeater  controller support SELCAL 
because commercial customers still use  it.
 
73,
Bob

Bob Schmid,  WA9FBO, Member
S-COM, LLC
PO Box 1546
LaPorte CO  80535-1546
970-416-6505 voice
970-419-3222  fax
www.scomcontrollers.com

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron SCU controller

[Milt]

Lots of equipment can encode the 2+2 Quick Call format but since today's 
decoders are software based (counting squared off audio waveforms) instead of 
hardware based (mechanical reeds) nothing I have seen recently will accurately 
decode the format.

Milt
N3LTQ

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 6:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron SCU controller


  Hi Ian,

  Does anyone have any info on the unit in question that generated those 
  tones? I'd love to find one - just for memorabilia.

  That tone format has been around for a long time in mobile radio (Motorola 
Quik-Call I) and is still being used in aviation (ICAO SELCAL) to page aircraft 
on the company channel. A chime informs the flight crew that a message follows 
(in case the volume has been turned down -- it happens when you have three 
radios going... :-).

  Aviation uses SELCAL on VHF-AM and HF channels, but on HF the tones are sent 
with amplitude modulation to ensure proper decoding while the conversations 
take place on SSB.

  Our air/ground interconnect and 7330 repeater controller support SELCAL 
because commercial customers still use it.

  73,
  Bob


  Bob Schmid, WA9FBO, Member
  S-COM, LLC
  PO Box 1546
  LaPorte CO 80535-1546
  970-416-6505 voice
  970-419-3222 fax
  www.scomcontrollers.com





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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron SCU controller

[Chuck Kelsey]

Yet is should. It's no different than DTMF.

Chuck
WB2EDV



  - Original Message - 
  From: Milt 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 7:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron SCU controller


  Lots of equipment can encode the 2+2 Quick Call format but since today's 
decoders are software based (counting squared off audio waveforms) instead of 
hardware based (mechanical reeds) nothing I have seen recently will accurately 
decode the format.

  Milt
  N3LTQ

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron SCU controller

[Ian Miller]

Hi fellows. This is a little off topic, but lately I have been watching 
and taping the old EMERGENCY! shows on WRTN Buffalo on DISH Network. 
4PM eastern.

From reading on some fan sites, the dispatcher, Sam Lanier, who was a 
real LA County fire dispatcher, used a ZETRON Station control unit to 
send out those tones that were heard in the station, and opened the 
doors.

Does anyone have any info on the unit in question that generated those 
tones?  I'd love to find one - just for memorabilia.

Thanks again
Ian
VA2IR
VE2RMP VHF/UHF Repeater group
Irlp Nodes 2570 and 2006

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron SCU controller

[Tedd Doda]

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:52:34 -, Ian Miller wrote:

shows on WRTN Buffalo on DISH Network. 
VA2IR

I'm SURE you meant Expressvu or Starchoiceright :)

Tedd Doda, VE3TJD
Lazer Audio and Electronics
ESSO plaza at exit 268 off HWY 401
Phone: 519-513-0377

My idea of a Symphony
8 Pistons playing the tune my right foot tells them to.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron SCU controller

[Chuck Kelsey]

They may have used a Zetron in later years, but at the time the program was 
made, Zetron wasn't in existence.

See this and you'll have what you seek:

http://www.policeinterceptor.com/emerg.htm

Chuck
WB2EDV



- Original Message - 
From: Ian Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 11:52 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron SCU controller


 Hi fellows. This is a little off topic, but lately I have been watching
 and taping the old EMERGENCY! shows on WRTN Buffalo on DISH Network.
 4PM eastern.

 From reading on some fan sites, the dispatcher, Sam Lanier, who was a
 real LA County fire dispatcher, used a ZETRON Station control unit to
 send out those tones that were heard in the station, and opened the
 doors.

 Does anyone have any info on the unit in question that generated those
 tones?  I'd love to find one - just for memorabilia.

 Thanks again
 Ian
 VA2IR
 VE2RMP VHF/UHF Repeater group
 Irlp Nodes 2570 and 2006


 



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[Repeater-Builder] Zetron DTMF Mic

[Jim Purvis]

I have a Zetron ZML series DTMF mic that is cabled and jumpered for a 
Motorola Spectra.  I would like to replace the connector and use it on 
an iCom mobile.
I have the pin out for the iCom.
Does anyone out there have a manual and/or diagram for this mic?  I 
need to know how the mic is built so I can properly configure it.  
There are several jumpers that I have no idea what they are used for.
Other informationon the mic;
ZML
part number  901-9272
Z 66655
The Z 66655 gives me a few hits on Google but so far no diagram or 
service informationon this mic.
Can anyone help here?

Jim

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A and Max Manuals

[Eric Lemmon]

Thanks to the generous contributions of George, N3GH, and Jack, K6YC, I have
collected and resized the needed schematics and merged them into complete
manuals- one for the Zetron 38A and one for the Zetron 38Max.

I have already uploaded both manuals in full-page PDF to the Zetron folder
in the Files section of the Repeater-Builder Group.  The same manuals will
soon be available in the Zetron section of the RBTIP.  The schematics are in
their correct locations within each manual, so you don't have to download
them separately.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38a Schematics

[n3gh_1]

Greetings All!

I have uploaded PDF files of schematics for the Zetron 38A controller.

Have fun!

73, N3GH
George

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38a Schematics

[Bob M.]

That's like totally great news, dude!

One very important piece of information missing, however.

Bob M.
==
--- On Tue, 7/29/08, n3gh_1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: n3gh_1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38a Schematics
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 8:45 PM
 Greetings All!
 
 I have uploaded PDF files of schematics for the Zetron 38A
 controller.
 
 Have fun!
 
 73, N3GH
 George


  

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 8

[ve3hxp]

Hi,  I have one of these beasts and have mostly used it for tone encode 
and decode. I never got a manual for it, but I remembered how to use it 
for that purpose. Now I need to monitor a frequency for other tone 
frequencies, and I can't remember the commands to clear the registers 
and to read back tone usage. Could somedbody help me with that?

Thanks
Sean 
VE3HXP

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 37 Repeater Pal Rear Connector Spec?

[mthoeft]

Can anyone tell me the manufacturer and part number of the 10-pin rear 
connector (For J-1) on a Zetron Model 37 Repeater Pal controller?
I want to re-use the controller in another application and need another 
10-pin connector.Thanks again for all the help! Mike K2MPH

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38B ,their value???

[gervais]

hi

what is the value for 2 Zetron 36B,Phone Link  (whit the documentation
OEM)

i need your advise ,,

gervais

ve2ckn

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron Integrator Programming?

[whp]

Anyone out here experienced in using the Zetron RDPS software to program Zetron Integrator RD?

I'm following what little there is in the manual but can't seem to get buttons onto the screen. Their description of drag and drop works only for menu buttons in the window dressing but notfor channel buttons.

Would also like to remove as much of the "window dressing" as I can as we are implementing all 48 channels thru the transition.

Thanks and happy holiday,
Bill Powell - WB1GOT

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Manual

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

Yep, he did.

The schematics pages in that PDF file are blank (unfortunately it's 
all we have).

A good example of Zetron customer service at its best.

I've heard it from several people - they buy Zetron, they shelve the 
manual.  Several

years later the unit needs repair - maybe they zap a COR input, or something.
They pull the manual off the shelf, and the schematics are blank.  Unhappy
customers tend to make later purchases elsewhere.

Mike

At 12:06 PM 04/24/08, you wrote:

Doesn't anyone check the website or do a google search anymore??

http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-model-38a-inst%20manual-025-9043y.pdfhttp://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-model-38a-inst%20manual-025-9043y.pdf

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531
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From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jack Davis
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:24 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Manual

Does anyone have the schematics for a Zetron Model 38A repeater 
controller?  The pages are blank in my manual and I need to fix it.


Thanks,
Jack
K6YC


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Manual

[Scott Zimmerman]

Doesn't anyone check the website or do a google search anymore??

http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-model-38a-inst%20manual-025-9043y.pdf

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jack Davis 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:24 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Manual


  Does anyone have the schematics for a Zetron Model 38A repeater controller?  
The pages are blank in my manual and I need to fix it.

  Thanks,
  Jack
  K6YC
   


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[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Manual

[Jack Davis]

Does anyone have the schematics for a Zetron Model 38A repeater controller?  
The pages are blank in my manual and I need to fix it.

Thanks,
Jack
K6YC

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron ZMX dtmf mic

[barrypal]

Does anyone have programming information for the Zetron ZMX dtmf mic?
 It is programmable using the dtmf pad on the mic.  I am using it on a
Motorola m1225 and it's working great but it has been programmed to
send a dtmf on key down and key upCan't have that..

Thanks

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron ZMX dtmf mic

[Tony Lelieveld]

I have the programming instructions for a Zetron ZML mike.  If you think
it is the same, I'll be happy to email it to you.

73, Tony VE3DWI

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of barrypal
Sent: April 20, 2008 10:55
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron ZMX dtmf mic

 

Does anyone have programming information for the Zetron ZMX dtmf mic?
It is programmable using the dtmf pad on the mic. I am using it on a
Motorola m1225 and it's working great but it has been programmed to
send a dtmf on key down and key upCan't have that..

Thanks

 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 30 interconnect

[Scott Zimmerman]

Paul,

Could you please forward a copy of it to Mike Morris for publication to the 
Repeater-Builder site?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,
Scott
   Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 8:57 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 30 interconnect


I do. Contact direct

K.Paul Boggs.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mountain Emergency Communications


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  From: ve5fn 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: 4/12/2008 1:50:23 PM 
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 30 interconnect


  HELP! Does anyone have access to the manual for this beast? Our club 
  has acquired one without a manual.

  73 .. Bill
  VE5FN



 





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[Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 30 interconnect

[ve5fn]

HELP! Does anyone have access to the manual for this beast?  Our club 
has acquired one without a manual.

73 .. Bill
VE5FN

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 30 interconnect

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I do. Contact direct

K.Paul Boggs.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mountain Emergency Communications


- Original Message - 
From: ve5fn 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 4/12/2008 1:50:23 PM 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 30 interconnect


HELP! Does anyone have access to the manual for this beast? Our club 
has acquired one without a manual.

73 .. Bill
VE5FN


 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 48 and 48BB Manuals

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

I spent the morning over at the storage shed and found the 48 manual.
Now to find a scanner the wide pullouts may end up in sections.

Mike WA6ILQ

At 05:57 PM 04/02/08, you wrote:
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  If I did, it got misplaced in the move.


OK, well, I can make a copy again.  Actually I have one each of the
Model 48 and Model 48B manuals.  I am not able to scan them here, so
I'll make paper copies.  If both of them are useful, I'll copy both.

Where is the best place to send them so they'll be scanned and posted
on the Repeater-Builder site?

Laryn K8TVZ






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[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 48 and 48BB Manuals

[Laryn Lohman]

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If I did, it got misplaced in the move. 


OK, well, I can make a copy again.  Actually I have one each of the
Model 48 and Model 48B manuals.  I am not able to scan them here, so
I'll make paper copies.  If both of them are useful, I'll copy both.  

Where is the best place to send them so they'll be scanned and posted
on the Repeater-Builder site?

Laryn K8TVZ

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 48 B Manual?

[Jim Kvochick]

 

Does anyone have one?  I'd love to at least know how to reset one to
default, and what speed the RS-232 interface runs at.

Thanks

Jim WB8AZP

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 48 B Manual?

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

At 04:44 AM 04/01/08, you wrote:

Does anyone have one?  I'd love to at least know how to reset one to
default, and what speed the RS-232 interface runs at.

Thanks

Jim WB8AZP

There's a Zetron 48-Jr manual on the Zetron page at www.repeater-builder.com

The parts you are looking for MAY be similar, and the manual may be 
useful to you.

The 48 (plain), 48B and 48MAX manuals seem to be unavailable from anyone.

Mike WA6ILQ

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 48 B Manual?

[Eric Vincent]

Hi Jim and Mike,

 

To reset Zetron 48B as factory default you can remove U6 from the Smart
Socket and the RAM will be clear. Also you can turn OFF the system and
install JP19 to short the leads together and turn ON, when all the led's
come ON except Transmit, DTMF and Local, remove JP19.

I prefer the first method because I am sure that the RAM is emptied and that
it will not be corrupted.

 

The RS232 speed is 4800bps/No parity/8 data bits/1 stop bit and use XOFF/XON
protocol.

You need a DB-9 cable between the Z48 and you PC. This is the pinout to make
your own DB-9M to DB-9F

(Z48 pin3 to RS232 pin2) (Z48 pin4 to RS232 pin3) (Z48 pin5 to RS232 pin5)
(RS232 pin4 to RS232 pin6) (RS232 pin7 to RS232 pin8)

After you need to press ENTER to activate communication, you will see the
Top Menu.

 

My manual is for Zetron 48B and also I have Zetron 48-MAX, if you need it I
can go to Jetcopy and ask for a price to duplicate the manual.

73' Eric

 

  _  

Does anyone have one? I'd love to at least know how to reset one to
default, and what speed the RS-232 interface runs at.

Thanks

Jim WB8AZP

There's a Zetron 48-Jr manual on the Zetron page at www.repeater-builder.com

The parts you are looking for MAY be similar, and the manual may be 
useful to you.

The 48 (plain), 48B and 48MAX manuals seem to be unavailable from anyone.

Mike WA6ILQ

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38-MAX - how to use RS232 port?

[G0EWH]

Hi all

I have aquired a 38-MAX panel with a ex-pmr repeater unit, but don't have
any manual for it.  I have downloaded the Spec sheets from Zetron and see
that I should be able to access the unit via the RS232 port.

1. Do I need software, or can I just use a terminal program like
Hyperterminal which I have tried without any response?

2. What are the port settings, spec sheets says Baud rate is selectable, but
how?

Any help would be appreciated into how I can actually use it with an amateur
repeater.

Thanks
Richard G0EWH
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 48 controller

[Richard W Bazell Jr]

Hi Mike,

You helped me out in the past on my Compa 6 meter station. Tks again.
The Zetreon Model 48 is an plain Jane.

Wesley AB8KD

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 48 controller

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

Those pointers to the data / spec sheet for the 48MAX.

He may have the 48 (plain) model, or even the 48JR model.

Unfortunately the repeater-builder web site has only the data sheets
on several Zetron units, including the 48, the 48JR and the 48MAX.

If anyone has any of the missing PDFs please consider sending them in
so everyone can benefit.

Mike WA6ILQ

At 05:10 PM 12/01/07, you wrote:
http://www.zetron.com/data/site/templates/zetrontemplate.asp?area_0=pages/menus/privateradioprodarea_1=pages/products/privateradio/m48-max

http://tinyurl.com/yva5pd


R.Wesley Bazell Jr wrote:
  Picked up this Model at fort Wayne Hamfest for my MastrII 440 Repeater.
  Have been using Software with computer for ID up till now.
  See no info on Repeater tech website on this Zetron. anyone know how to
  program  the Eproms on this unit. Have I bought an White Elephant?

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 48 controller

[R.Wesley Bazell Jr]

Picked up this Model at fort Wayne Hamfest for my MastrII 440 Repeater.
Have been using Software with computer for ID up till now.
See no info on Repeater tech website on this Zetron. anyone know how to 
program  the Eproms on this unit. Have I bought an White Elephant?

Wesley AB8KD

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 48 controller

[R.Wesley Bazell Jr]

Picked up this Model at fort Wayne Hamfest for my MastrII 440 Repeater.
Have been using Software with computer for ID up till now.
See no info on Repeater tech website on this Zetron. anyone know how to 
program  the Eproms on this unit. Have I bought an White Elephant?

Wesley AB8KD

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 48 controller

[Maire-Radios]

have used a number of the 48 on repeaters  it will make a very good controller 
but it is design for business use not so much ham.  


  - Original Message - 
  From: R.Wesley Bazell Jr 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 5:17 AM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 48 controller


  Picked up this Model at fort Wayne Hamfest for my MastrII 440 Repeater.
  Have been using Software with computer for ID up till now.
  See no info on Repeater tech website on this Zetron. anyone know how to 
  program the Eproms on this unit. Have I bought an White Elephant?

  Wesley AB8KD



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron model 48 controller

[Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)]

http://www.zetron.com/data/site/templates/zetrontemplate.asp?area_0=pages/menus/privateradioprodarea_1=pages/products/privateradio/m48-max

http://tinyurl.com/yva5pd




R.Wesley Bazell Jr wrote:
 Picked up this Model at fort Wayne Hamfest for my MastrII 440 Repeater.
 Have been using Software with computer for ID up till now.
 See no info on Repeater tech website on this Zetron. anyone know how to 
 program  the Eproms on this unit. Have I bought an White Elephant?


   

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[Repeater-Builder] zetron 38a

[rwjohn49]

Folks,

I just got a Zetron 38A at a hamfest.  Works fine in the repeater but I 
have tried the password code and no results.  It is listed in the book 
as 12123#.  Someone must have changed it... What do I do now?  Can it 
be set back to a factory default?

thanks,

ron

Re: [Repeater-Builder] zetron 38a

[Maire-Radios]

take out the chip with the battery and unplug the chip from the battery  give 
it 3 mins or so and put it back  should default.


  - Original Message - 
  From: rwjohn49 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 9:11 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] zetron 38a


  Folks,

  I just got a Zetron 38A at a hamfest. Works fine in the repeater but I 
  have tried the password code and no results. It is listed in the book 
  as 12123#. Someone must have changed it... What do I do now? Can it 
  be set back to a factory default?

  thanks,

  ron



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] zetron 38a

[Jim Brown]

Look inside the unit and find the ram IC that is plugged into the Dallas 
Semiconductor battery backup chip.  Remove the ram IC from the battery backup 
chip for several seconds and plug it back in.  It will default back to the 
factory original 12123.
   
  The controller will not be in the normal RS-232 control mode (be sure you 
build the special cable shown in the manual) after this operation though.  It 
will be in the 'Model 8' mode.  Here is the way to get it back into the normal 
RS-232 mode so you can enter the 12123 and get access:
   
  If the port is currently set for Model 8 mode and DTMF programming on the 
radio channel is
  not possible, the terminal may be used to simulate a Model 8 to change the 
settings. Perform the following procedure: Set the terminal for 4800 baud, then 
cycle power on the Model 38.  The message READY will appear on the terminal, 
followed by a _ prompt. On the CRT, type in 19, then press the ENTER key. 
The message CRT should appear, (selects CRT mode) and press ENTER. When the 
_ prompt returns, type in 1 and press ENTER. Now cycle power on the panel 
to get the Enter Password == _ prompt.
   
  73 - Jim  W5ZIT
  

rwjohn49 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Folks,

I just got a Zetron 38A at a hamfest. Works fine in the repeater but I 
have tried the password code and no results. It is listed in the book 
as 12123#. Someone must have changed it... What do I do now? Can it 
be set back to a factory default?

thanks,

ron



 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Programming

[Jim Brown]

Al, I would program the Z38A the way you have with one change.  I am sure the 
system ID should be the same as the user ID, so instead of assigning the system 
ID to an unused user ID, I would use the user ID as the system ID.  Just enter 
the user number for the tone you are using for normal user use in the system ID 
and that should work.
   
  I have had no case of the ID going away completely like you mention.  I have 
never used the system ID except for long enough to see that it caused an ID 
every interval entered for the ID.  The user ID runs at the end of the first 
transmission the user makes and will not run again until the ID interval 
expires.  There will be no user ID after the ID timer for the user expires, 
only after the end of the next transmission the user makes.
   
  If you wanted to identify each user on the system, I guess you could assign a 
different tone access to each user and then enable the DTMF user ID at the end 
of each transmission.  If you had a DTMF readout on a receiver listening to the 
repeater, you could identify each user that way.  I don't remember if you could 
assign a different ID interval to the system ID from the user ID, but at the 
end of the first transmission a user makes, you could send his CW ID and have 
him identified each time he starts a session on the repeater and every ID 
interval after that.
   
  The first thing I did on setting up my Z38As was to go through the manual I 
found at the repeater-builders site (courtesy Eric Lemmon) and verify each 
command that my unit will respond to.  I found that the manual was for a later 
model Z38A than the ones I have, and my units respond to a sub-set of the 
commands found in the manual.  In particular, my units will not operate open 
squelch, you must have a tone to get into them.  The later model units will 
allow you to enable user 0 and have the repeater operate with just the COR 
input and no tone.
   
  I have never considered using the individual user ID in an amateur radio 
application.  I just entered the repeater callsign in each tone frequency I 
enabled.  The reason we even have more than one tone enabled is to allow 
different uses of the repeater.  Normal operation requires one tone, while 
operation of the EchoLink interface requires a different tone.  And special use 
of the repeater for Search and Rescue operations uses a third tone so that the 
operating time for this mode can be reported as verified emergency operations 
to our site sponsor.  We have a requirement at one site to report all emergency 
operations to help validate the need for the site, and the power it consumes.
   
  By the way, the ID is transmitted with a tone when it is enabled, so for the 
EchoLink tone we disable the ID in the Z38A for that tone and let EchoLink ID 
the repeater when that mode is in use.  This prevents the ID from being 
transmitted down the in-band link to EchoLink, but any other use of the 
repeater on the other tone freqs will result in a normal repeater generated ID. 
 If the Z38A is configured to not transmit the tone during the squelch tail, no 
problems with an in-band link into EchoLink occur.
   
  73 - Jim  W5ZIT

radiotech808 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi All,

Jim maybe one for you ?

New Zetron 38A installed this morning so great to have the repeater 
back on again until I repair the other logic since we still require 
1750Hz access

I have managed to get a bit lost in the programming of the unit ( 
not a good idea to do programming after you first get out of bed !)

Once again what I require morse id every 15 min's ( becon mode ) 
which I think is the system id, which is then assigned to a user ie 
a user who is enabled but reserved. 

Once the repeater is opened up a morse id for the current user ever 
over  or every 3 mins

What I am finding (with my programming) is system id every 15 mins 
which changes once the repeater panel is used  no morse after the 
user has accessed the radio !

Regards
Al 



 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Programming

[ALASTAIR GRAHAM]

Jim,
   
  Thanks once again for the input  help
   
  As it stands tonight the repeater is operational after 5 hours at site 
setting up the audio again problem is the base station we use is not that 
forgiving with is comes to audio levels (Nokia BSR 150)
   
  On the older Zetron panel which was the basic 38 I could go onto the board  
do further adjustment although the newer 38A does not have any pots to adjust 
so out with the resister box  a good set of ears
   
  As the station ID it has settled down to every 15 minutes although the Morse 
is going out at around 22 words a minute, awaiting call back from Zetron to see 
if I can adjust the timer  speed on this apart from using the enabled user 
number
   
  Get on very well with Zetron here in the UK as used to use them with my last 
company so when it comes to support  manuals they are very happy to help me 
out ( I aways have them laughing on the phone when I call so I have never been 
forgotten even there operator knows me by first name before saying who I am)
   
  Awaiting a call back  email from Jose at tech support, one thing I did find 
out is there are hidden menus  passwords so once I get that information I will 
pass it on to yourself.
   
  Jim I would rather leave the Zetron on site as we have major problems with 
transients like the site goes onto generator during working hour the back onto 
the grid after with has caused endless problems which I think was the main 
cause of the original logic (RC210) going u/s least the Zetron would cope well
   
  In all the year of looking after commercial repeater sites I have not had one 
go down yet
   
  Right time for bed here so better move
   
  PS For you information the repeater is GB3FF  it does run on echo-link but 
just moved home so awaiting the antenna to go up so off line just now oh  if 
you fancy having a look at the set up www.csfmg.com it will give you an idea on 
how things run here in Scotland
   
  Many thanks once again Jim your help is much appreciated
   
  Best Regards
  Al
   
   
   
   
   
  

Jim Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Al, I would program the Z38A the way you have with one change.  I 
am sure the system ID should be the same as the user ID, so instead of 
assigning the system ID to an unused user ID, I would use the user ID as the 
system ID.  Just enter the user number for the tone you are using for normal 
user use in the system ID and that should work.
   
  I have had no case of the ID going away completely like you mention.  I have 
never used the system ID except for long enough to see that it caused an ID 
every interval entered for the ID.  The user ID runs at the end of the first 
transmission the user makes and will not run again until the ID interval 
expires.  There will be no user ID after the ID timer for the user expires, 
only after the end of the next transmission the user makes.
   
  If you wanted to identify each user on the system, I guess you could assign a 
different tone access to each user and then enable the DTMF user ID at the end 
of each transmission.  If you had a DTMF readout on a receiver listening to the 
repeater, you could identify each user that way.  I don't remember if you could 
assign a different ID interval to the system ID from the user ID, but at the 
end of the first transmission a user makes, you could send his CW ID and have 
him identified each time he starts a session on the repeater and every ID 
interval after that.
   
  The first thing I did on setting up my Z38As was to go through the manual I 
found at the repeater-builders site (courtesy Eric Lemmon) and verify each 
command that my unit will respond to.  I found that the manual was for a later 
model Z38A than the ones I have, and my units respond to a sub-set of the 
commands found in the manual.  In particular, my units will not operate open 
squelch, you must have a tone to get into them.  The later model units will 
allow you to enable user 0 and have the repeater operate with just the COR 
input and no tone.
   
  I have never considered using the individual user ID in an amateur radio 
application.  I just entered the repeater callsign in each tone frequency I 
enabled.  The reason we even have more than one tone enabled is to allow 
different uses of the repeater.  Normal operation requires one tone, while 
operation of the EchoLink interface requires a different tone.  And special use 
of the repeater for Search and Rescue operations uses a third tone so that the 
operating time for this mode can be reported as verified emergency operations 
to our site sponsor.  We have a requirement at one site to report all emergency 
operations to help validate the need for the site, and the power it consumes.
   
  By the way, the ID is transmitted with a tone when it is enabled, so for the 
EchoLink tone we disable the ID in the Z38A for that tone and let EchoLink ID 
the repeater when that mode is in use.  This prevents the ID from being 

[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38A Programming

[radiotech808]

Hi All,

Jim maybe one for you ?

New Zetron 38A installed this morning so great to have the repeater 
back on again until I repair the other logic since we still require 
1750Hz access

I have managed to get a bit lost in the programming of the unit ( 
not a good idea to do programming after you first get out of bed !)

Once again what I require morse id every 15 min's ( becon mode ) 
which I think is the system id, which is then assigned to a user ie 
a user who is enabled but reserved. 

Once the repeater is opened up a morse id for the current user ever 
over  or every 3 mins

What I am finding (with my programming) is system id every 15 mins 
which changes once the repeater panel is used  no morse after the 
user has accessed the radio !

Regards
Al  

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel

[Jim]

ALASTAIR GRAHAM wrote:

   And sorry I forgot to say I am over here in the UK hence the 15min ident

Oh-I didn't think about that...nevermind!
;c}
-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel

[ALASTAIR GRAHAM]

Jim,
   
  No problems I should have said :- )
   
  Ok one of the local comms guys has swapped me for the newer 38A all working 
as should be including the Morse ID every 15 Min's great
   
  Only thing I wont be able to do is get 1750Hz access although I notice on the 
alarm side you can change the tones to 1750Hz but looks like encode only ?
   
  Another mater Hamtronix ELECTRA 2000
   
  Any input on these would be helpful what I can tell so far is they are a 
great logic  at a great price although 2 emails  two weeks later I am still 
awaiting a reply re 1750Hz access
   
  Regards
  Al

Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ALASTAIR GRAHAM wrote:

 And sorry I forgot to say I am over here in the UK hence the 15min ident

Oh-I didn't think about that...nevermind!
;c}
-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL






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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

The Z38A instruction manual can be down loaded from
http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-index.html

The 38 is a different puppy from the 38A, however.

More that one person has voiced the comment that Zetron is one
of those companies that has absolutely no regard for their customers.
It seems that they stock manuals only for those products currently in
production.  If you want a manual for a device that is a few years old
you are out of luck - you can't even buy one.
If anybody wants to donate PDFs for the Zetron page at repeater-builder
just go ahead and mail them in.  We've got gigabytes of storage that
are just sitting there going to waste.


At 08:22 PM 10/24/07, you wrote:
I think the ID in DTMF you are talking about is the user ID which is 
transmitted at the end of a transmission as the bubble up.  The DTMF 
sequence is the user number.


If you want to have the Z38A transmit an ID every 15 minutes in 
Morse whether it has been active or not, put a user number in the 
system config with the ID you want.  If you only want an ID when the 
system is active, put the ID in the user number with the tone you 
are using and put user 0 in the system ID slot.


If you set the CTCSS on transmit to terminate when the user stops 
transmitting, the CTCSS will continue during the ID and then drop 
for the rest of the squelch tail.


Let me know if you have any more questions.  I have 5 of the Z38A 
operating in amateur repeaters.


73 - Jim  W5ZIT

Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what you are talking about the ID in DTMF and the time factor are 
all in programming.  I don't have a book on the unit here but it all 
can be done.


John


- Original Message -
From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]radiotech808
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comRepeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:18 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel

Hi All,

I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter
repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems

What I want

Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident
does go out but no radio tx any thoughts

Station ID

At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse
once again any thoughts or ideas

Ps The 38 I have is fairly old hardware (ver 1.5) so what I am
looking for might not work ?

Regards
Al


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel

[Jim]

radiotech808 wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter 
 repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems

 What I want
 
 Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident 
 does go out but no radio tx any thoughts

You do know that ham ID regs call for 10 minute ID intervals, not 15?

 Station ID
 
 At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse 
 once again any thoughts or ideas

Never heard of a DTMF ID on a tone panelI think it's a unit 
ID/customer ID for the sake of billing or troubleshooting.

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel

[ALASTAIR GRAHAM]

Hi Jim  All,
   
  Firstly the tone panel is a Zetron 38 not an A or max !
   
  Jim you are right about the DTMF ident really only for trouble shooting over 
air etc
   
  And sorry I forgot to say I am over here in the UK hence the 15min ident
   
  Speaking to tech at Zetron today he agrees that it looks like aa hardware 
issue as the hardware was made custom for Phillips back in 1985 (when I had 
hair)
   
  One thing that I think may be causing the ident not to trigger the radio TX 
could be one of the various jumper setting inside although no circuit diagram 
for that
   
  As before you can hear the ident every 15 (only on audio line to test set)  
it does not pull the radio into TX 
   
  As everything else I have got going except this id with TX every 15 Min's
   
  Ps one post suggested using user tone 0 for the id Zetron will not accept this
   
  The Joys...
   
  Thanks for all the posts anyway guys
   
  Regards
  Al 
Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  radiotech808 wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter 
 repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems

 What I want
 
 Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident 
 does go out but no radio tx any thoughts

You do know that ham ID regs call for 10 minute ID intervals, not 15?

 Station ID
 
 At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse 
 once again any thoughts or ideas

Never heard of a DTMF ID on a tone panelI think it's a unit 
ID/customer ID for the sake of billing or troubleshooting.

-- 
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL






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[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel

[radiotech808]

Hi All,

I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter 
repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems

What I want

Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident 
does go out but no radio tx any thoughts

Station ID

At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse 
once again any thoughts or ideas

Ps The 38 I have is fairly old hardware (ver 1.5) so what I am 
looking for might not work ?

Regards
Al

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel

[Maire-Radios]

what you are talking about the ID in DTMF and the time factor are all in 
programming.  I don't have a book on the unit here but it all can be done.

John


  - Original Message - 
  From: radiotech808 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:18 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel


  Hi All,

  I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter 
  repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems

  What I want

  Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident 
  does go out but no radio tx any thoughts

  Station ID

  At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse 
  once again any thoughts or ideas

  Ps The 38 I have is fairly old hardware (ver 1.5) so what I am 
  looking for might not work ?

  Regards
  Al



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel

[ALASTAIR GRAHAM]

John,
   
  Thanks for the reply
   
  One thing I do have is the manual although not all DTMF programming commands 
work with my panel still suspect it's a hardware issue
   
  Will speak to Zetron tomorrow see what they come up with !
   
  Regards
  Al 
  

Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  what you are talking about the ID in DTMF and the time factor are all in 
programming.  I don't have a book on the unit here but it all can be done.
   
  John
   
   
- Original Message - 
  From: radiotech808 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:18 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
  

Hi All,

I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter 
repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems

What I want

Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident 
does go out but no radio tx any thoughts

Station ID

At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse 
once again any thoughts or ideas

Ps The 38 I have is fairly old hardware (ver 1.5) so what I am 
looking for might not work ?

Regards
Al



 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel

[Maire-Radios]

do you have one of the follow and the book for the other as there are:  38  38A 
 38max  and there may be 2 ver of the plan 38.

John


  - Original Message - 
  From: ALASTAIR GRAHAM 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel



  John,

  Thanks for the reply

  One thing I do have is the manual although not all DTMF programming commands 
work with my panel still suspect it's a hardware issue

  Will speak to Zetron tomorrow see what they come up with !

  Regards
  Al 


  Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what you are talking about the ID in DTMF and the time factor are all in 
programming.  I don't have a book on the unit here but it all can be done.

John


  - Original Message - 
  From: radiotech808 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:18 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel


  Hi All,

  I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter 
  repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems

  What I want

  Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident 
  does go out but no radio tx any thoughts

  Station ID

  At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse 
  once again any thoughts or ideas

  Ps The 38 I have is fairly old hardware (ver 1.5) so what I am 
  looking for might not work ?

  Regards
  Al





   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel

[Jim Brown]

I think the ID in DTMF you are talking about is the user ID which is 
transmitted at the end of a transmission as the bubble up.  The DTMF sequence 
is the user number.
   
  If you want to have the Z38A transmit an ID every 15 minutes in Morse whether 
it has been active or not, put a user number in the system config with the ID 
you want.  If you only want an ID when the system is active, put the ID in the 
user number with the tone you are using and put user 0 in the system ID slot.
   
  If you set the CTCSS on transmit to terminate when the user stops 
transmitting, the CTCSS will continue during the ID and then drop for the rest 
of the squelch tail.
   
  Let me know if you have any more questions.  I have 5 of the Z38A operating 
in amateur repeaters.
   
  73 - Jim  W5ZIT

Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what you are talking about the ID in DTMF and the time factor are 
all in programming.  I don't have a book on the unit here but it all can be 
done.
   
  John
   
   
- Original Message - 
  From: radiotech808 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 4:18 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron 38 Panel
  

Hi All,

I am trying to get the Zetron 38 running on our local 2 meter 
repeater (only as a temp measure) due to logic problems

What I want

Morse ident out every 15mins as to comply with the regs, the ident 
does go out but no radio tx any thoughts

Station ID

At the moment the station id is DTMF I want to chnage this to morse 
once again any thoughts or ideas

Ps The 38 I have is fairly old hardware (ver 1.5) so what I am 
looking for might not work ?

Regards
Al



  

 

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[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 45B

[ve3iny]

I've had a Zetron 45B kickin' around for a few years,  and now I'd 
like to use it ...

Problem is,  like many others who live too far away from parts 
sources,  I have a tendancy to borrow parts from one gadget to build 
another.

At one time or another,  I borrowed U2 and U30 for a controller 
project.  I believe U2 was a 6840,  and U30 was either a 567 or 555.

And of course I don't have the original schematics,  so I can't be 
sure what I need to get the unit up and running again.

If you have a 45B manual,  could you kindly look up U2 and U30,  and 
let me know what part numbers I need.

Thanks.

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[kf8zn]

I THINK this is a repeater phone patch, don't find it on the sites 
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[Repeater-Builder] Zetron ZR340 Controller Manual Needed

[Paul Metzger]

Might anyone have a configuration manual for the ZR340? I had one,  
but can't seem to find it at this time. It's only a few pages. Maybe  
scanning and e-mailing it to me. If so, many thanks !

Paul Metzger
K6EH

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[Repeater-Builder] Zetron

[Maire-Radios]

can any tell me the default program codes for the:

Zetron model 38
and
Zetron model 38A

thank you,  John

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron

[Charles Mumphrey Kc5ozh]

Hey John and the Group!
You may want to do a little more reading of this groups bible.
IMHOTry this link:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-model-38A025-9043Y.pdf
Might be a little easier than someone telling you the many codes...
Enjoy!
Charlie

It is not the class of license the Amateur holds, but the class of the
Amateur that holds the license.

Charles Mumphrey
Amateur Radio Station Kc5ozh
Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater: 441.325 MHz + 162.2
Kc5ozh Dallas Repeater: 441.950 MHz + 162.2
Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater II: 441.950 MHz + 110.9
Rowlett R.A.C.E.S. Unit 823
http://www.CharliesElectronics.com
http://www.hello-radio.org
http://www.emergency-radio.org


  Original Message 
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron
 From: Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, July 14, 2007 1:59 pm
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 
 can any tell me the default program codes for the:
 
 Zetron model 38
 and
 Zetron model 38A
 
 thank you,  John

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron

[Maire-Radios]

I thought the 38 and 38A were different codes?

John


  - Original Message - 
  From: Charles Mumphrey Kc5ozh 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 3:10 PM
  Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron


  Hey John and the Group!
  You may want to do a little more reading of this groups bible.
  IMHOTry this link:
  http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-model-38A025-9043Y.pdf
  Might be a little easier than someone telling you the many codes...
  Enjoy!
  Charlie

  It is not the class of license the Amateur holds, but the class of the
  Amateur that holds the license.

  Charles Mumphrey
  Amateur Radio Station Kc5ozh
  Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater: 441.325 MHz + 162.2
  Kc5ozh Dallas Repeater: 441.950 MHz + 162.2
  Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater II: 441.950 MHz + 110.9
  Rowlett R.A.C.E.S. Unit 823
  http://www.CharliesElectronics.com
  http://www.hello-radio.org
  http://www.emergency-radio.org

    Original Message 
   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron
   From: Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Sat, July 14, 2007 1:59 pm
   To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
   
   can any tell me the default program codes for the:
   
   Zetron model 38
   and
   Zetron model 38A
   
   thank you, John



   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron

[Maire-Radios]

it looks like the same program code works for both.
thanks  John


  - Original Message - 
  From: Maire-Radios 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 3:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron



  I thought the 38 and 38A were different codes?

  John


- Original Message - 
From: Charles Mumphrey Kc5ozh 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron


Hey John and the Group!
You may want to do a little more reading of this groups bible.
IMHOTry this link:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/zetron/zetron-model-38A025-9043Y.pdf
Might be a little easier than someone telling you the many codes...
Enjoy!
Charlie

It is not the class of license the Amateur holds, but the class of the
Amateur that holds the license.

Charles Mumphrey
Amateur Radio Station Kc5ozh
Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater: 441.325 MHz + 162.2
Kc5ozh Dallas Repeater: 441.950 MHz + 162.2
Kc5ozh Rowlett Repeater II: 441.950 MHz + 110.9
Rowlett R.A.C.E.S. Unit 823
http://www.CharliesElectronics.com
http://www.hello-radio.org
http://www.emergency-radio.org

  Original Message 
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron
 From: Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, July 14, 2007 1:59 pm
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 
 can any tell me the default program codes for the:
 
 Zetron model 38
 and
 Zetron model 38A
 
 thank you, John




   

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron

[w5zit]

John, there is a manual on line at the Repeater-Builder site, but your 
unit may be an earlier version of the EPROM than the one documented in 
that manual.

The default decode sequence is 12345# if it is in the factory original 
state.  I had several that were not, and found that I could remove the 
RAM chip from the Dallas Semiconductor battery back up for a few 
minutes and have the processor come back up in the defauld condition 
when it was replaced and could program from there.

You have to put the processor back into the RS-232 access mode after 
this step, and you have to have a special cable (not standard RS-232) 
in order to program it via computer.  The cable is documented in the 
manual and you will find that older units will operate a sub-set of the 
commands shown in the manual.

73 - Jim  W5ZIT


-Original Message-
From: Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:59 am
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron








can any tell me the default program codes for the:

 

Zetron model 38

and

Zetron model 38A

 

thank you,  John


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron

[Maire-Radios]

any know the access code for the Zetron 39MAX

thanks  and it is not 12123

John


  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 4:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron


  John, there is a manual on line at the Repeater-Builder site, but your 
  unit may be an earlier version of the EPROM than the one documented in 
  that manual.

  The default decode sequence is 12345# if it is in the factory original 
  state. I had several that were not, and found that I could remove the 
  RAM chip from the Dallas Semiconductor battery back up for a few 
  minutes and have the processor come back up in the defauld condition 
  when it was replaced and could program from there.

  You have to put the processor back into the RS-232 access mode after 
  this step, and you have to have a special cable (not standard RS-232) 
  in order to program it via computer. The cable is documented in the 
  manual and you will find that older units will operate a sub-set of the 
  commands shown in the manual.

  73 - Jim W5ZIT

  -Original Message-
  From: Maire-Radios [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:59 am
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Zetron

  can any tell me the default program codes for the:

   

  Zetron model 38

  and

  Zetron model 38A

   

  thank you,  John

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[Repeater-Builder] Zetron 340

[Juan Angel Rodriguez]

Hi Friends, anyone have a schematic of the Zetron 340 multitone repeater 
controller ?
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