Re[2]: [sniffer] Recent SPAM

2004-11-30 Thread Pete McNeil
On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 12:25:58 PM, Scott wrote: SF I've noticed the trickle is a little larger as of late. SF I attribute it to a potential surge in SPAM trying to get people to buy SF before Christmas. There is definitely that - and there have been a few odd surges lately, where the

RE: [sniffer] Recent SPAM

2004-11-30 Thread Chuck Schick
Yes, I have seen three pieces of spam over and over again - two for drugs and one porn. I am running the latest version, rules are up to date, no on the log files, I am forwarding the emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was thinking about raising this issue so I am glad someone else is seeing the

Re[2]: [sniffer] Recent SPAM

2004-11-30 Thread Pete McNeil
On Tuesday, November 30, 2004, 12:45:27 PM, Chuck wrote: CS Yes, CS I have seen three pieces of spam over and over again - two for drugs and one CS porn. I am running the latest version, rules are up to date, no on the log CS files, I am forwarding the emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] CS I was

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Recent SPAM

2004-11-30 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Pete, could you recap for us how to set up a Declude project to forward non-sniffer-detected spam to a custom spamtrap address at SortMonster? Perhaps two versions, one for normal spamtrap, and one for spam that meets our chosen weight yet didn't trigger sniffer? I can piece together snippets

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Recent SPAM

2004-11-30 Thread John Tolmachoff (Lists)
I forwarded some yesterday to spam@ and then attached them and sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 9:56 AM

[sniffer] Fin Files

2004-12-02 Thread cespears
I started getting a large Number of files in my sniffer dir that end in .FIN ( like a thousand a day) a few that end in .ABT ( may be 12) and one .LOCK File. They never seem to go away. I normaly saw a few, but they dissapere by them self after a few seconds. These seem to be in large groups

[sniffer] Test ordering/precedence

2004-12-02 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Sniffer Folks, During a previous discussion in late September, it was generally agreed that it was time to re-order the priority of the experimental and generalized rule groups. I am going to begin that work today. The new ordering will be: 63: Experimental Received [IP]

Re[2]: [sniffer] Test ordering/precedence

2004-12-02 Thread Pete McNeil
On Thursday, December 2, 2004, 4:15:43 PM, Jim wrote: JM Pete, JM We have rules setup in declude based upon sniffer return codes 60 and 62 to JM mark all messages with those tests as spam, however we do not have any 61 or JM 62 return codes setup. Can you briefly explain what each of these

Re:[sniffer] Test ordering/precedence

2004-12-02 Thread Serge
Where can i find examples of using exit codes to assign different weights depending on groupes, when using sniffer with declude/imail ? TIA - Original Message - From: Pete McNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Matuska [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 9:59 PM Subject:

Re[2]: [sniffer] Test ordering/precedence

2004-12-03 Thread Pete McNeil
On Friday, December 3, 2004, 8:53:26 AM, Joe wrote: JW OK, I'm confused. First I admit I don't spend much time on Sniffer or JW Declude settings, and I haven't learned the programs very well. JW I used the default Sniffer config files. If I changed as indicated below JW will it catch more

[sniffer] Sniffer rulebase download server down?

2004-12-03 Thread Landry William
Title: Sniffer rulebase download server down? Pete, I am no longer able to download my rulebase files on either of our Sniffer servers. When I execute my download script, I immediately get: gzip: LicenseID.new.gz: unexpected end of file Is the rulebase download server down? Thanks for

[sniffer] New Version 2-3.2 has been officially released.

2004-12-06 Thread Mark E. Smith
Pete, Just downloaded the most recent version and the command line build information says: Build - v2-3.1 Oct 26 2004 22:03:06 I downloaded it twice from the help page. Is there another link? This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription

Re: [sniffer] New Version 2-3.2 has been officially released.

2004-12-06 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, December 6, 2004, 3:18:01 PM, Mark wrote: MES Pete, MES Just downloaded the most recent version and the command line build MES information says: MES Build - v2-3.1 Oct 26 2004 22:03:06 MES I downloaded it twice from the help page. What is the URL to the help page? I want to correct

Re[2]: [sniffer] New Version 2-3.2 has been officially released.

2004-12-06 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, December 6, 2004, 4:12:19 PM, Keith wrote: KJ Pete, KJ I saw one last week upon updating at: KJ http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Installation/HowTo.html KJ Under the heading: KJ Where to start (with the demo!): KJ I hope this helps. All fixed. Thanks! _M

RE: [sniffer] Mdeamon Problems

2004-12-08 Thread Michiel Prins
Rob, If you followed the walkthrough on the site, you should have result code headersin your e-mail messages. Could you check if that's the case? Regards, Michiel From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ~ ROB @ ZELLEM ~Sent: woensdag 8 december 2004 20:54To:

Re: [sniffer] Required reload question?

2004-12-10 Thread Pete McNeil
On Friday, December 10, 2004, 12:14:22 PM, Rick wrote: RR If I make a change to any of the whitelist,blacklist, or trusted files, and RR I'm using sniffer in a 'persistent' mode, do I have to restart anything to RR pick up the changes? I'm not sure I completely understand. If there are changes

RE: RE: [sniffer] Required reload question?

2004-12-10 Thread Craig Deal
I think the files you mentioned are for mxGuard only. They are separate from Message Sniffer and do not require you to restart anything. Craig it's the 'definition' of what is my rulebase that is unclear here. Specifically, if I add a domain name in the file 'whitelist.sender' in my mxguard

Re[2]: [sniffer] Required reload question?

2004-12-10 Thread Pete McNeil
On Friday, December 10, 2004, 1:11:48 PM, Rick wrote: RR it's the 'definition' of what is my rulebase that is unclear here. RR Specifically, if I add a domain name in the file 'whitelist.sender' in my RR mxguard directory (under my imail directory), will this be recognized RR without restarting

RE: [sniffer] Required reload question?

2004-12-10 Thread Rick Robeson
it's the 'definition' of what is my rulebase that is unclear here. Specifically, if I add a domain name in the file 'whitelist.sender' in my mxguard directory (under my imail directory), will this be recognized without restarting my sniffer process? I'm not changing the 'cfg' file in this

RE: [sniffer] test sender

2004-12-10 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Message Well, an indirect way to do this is to use the (undocumented?) Declude directive: rsp set off TESTNAME as the first bit of text in your test message. That won't actually trigger sniffer, but it will for the purpose of making your JunkMail think that the test has been

[sniffer] Download server is really slow..

2004-12-15 Thread Chuck Schick
Anyone else having that problem? Chuck Schick Warp 8, Inc. (303)-421-5140 www.warp8.com This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html

Re: [sniffer] Download server is really slow..

2004-12-15 Thread Greg Wanner
Me too [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Chuck Schick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 7:44 PM Subject: [sniffer] Download server is really slow.. Anyone else having that problem? Chuck Schick Warp 8, Inc. (303)-421-5140

Re[2]: [sniffer] Download server is really slow..

2004-12-15 Thread Pete McNeil
According to the logs there was a run on the server at this time... apparently quite a few servers downloading at the top of the hour - all competing. If you use a scheduled task for getting your rulebase files, please stagger your download schedule according to the chart here:

Re[4]: [sniffer] Few questions

2004-12-15 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, December 15, 2004, 6:54:01 PM, Marc wrote: MH Pete, MH FWIW, it appears that I just had a bad download. I re-downloaded it, and MH it's running w/o errors. Thx. One other quick note/reminder. Use the snf2check utility on your downloaded rulebase files before putting them in

Re: [sniffer] My issues with the General category, looking forabettersolution

2004-12-17 Thread Matt
Greg, Yes, I should have inserted a "probably" or otherwise taken more care with my words. I didn't mean for my reply to be contentious. Anyway, here's a sample of what I am talking about. I've isolated most major bulk-mail providers from the rest of my Hold E-mail which constitutes about 2%

Re: [sniffer] My issues with the General category, looking forabettersolution

2004-12-17 Thread Scott Fisher
I would tend to agree with you that these are false positives. Eweek, Infoworld, Birthday Express, Best Buy, Chadwicks cause regular spam tagging here. If it is a company I've heard of and the links and such point back to that company, I usually give it the benefit of the doubt. -

[sniffer] Anyone running Sniffer on SuSe Linux w/ the 2.6 kernel ??

2004-12-10 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello sniffer, I am curious to know if anyone is running sniffer on the 2.6 kernel of Linux? Specifically SuSe 9.2. Please contact me off list. Thanks, _M Pete McNeil (Madscientist) President, MicroNeil Research Corporation Chief SortMonster (www.sortmonster.com) This E-Mail came from

Re: [sniffer][sniffer]

2004-12-10 Thread DLAnalyzer Support
Katie, Take a copy of the failed message and submit it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with your lcinese base ID and they will tell you why it failed and setup a whiterule to prevent it from being tagged in the future. Darrell

Re: [sniffer] Few questions

2004-12-13 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, December 13, 2004, 3:40:41 PM, ~ wrote: ~RZ~ Hey everyone... ~RZ~ How does this whole trial thing work? What is limited about it? How does ~RZ~ the spam rule file update? How long will it work? How do i change from the ~RZ~ old spam file to the new one? Many questions One at a

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Few questions

2004-12-15 Thread John Tolmachoff (Lists)
ATTENTION ROB OF ZELLMAN PRINTING: Turn off read receipts. Fix the problem with your server rejecting replies to the very read receipts you request. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Few questions

2004-12-15 Thread Marc Hilliker
Pete, FWIW, it appears that I just had a bad download. I re-downloaded it, and it's running w/o errors. Thx. --- Marc MH I downloaded the sniffer demo a couple of days ago and finally installed it MH to run as an external test w/Declude today. I ran it all morning w/o any MH problems. This

Re[4]: [sniffer] Few questions

2004-12-15 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, December 15, 2004, 6:54:01 PM, Marc wrote: MH Pete, MH FWIW, it appears that I just had a bad download. I re-downloaded it, and MH it's running w/o errors. Thx. Great! That makes sense too - unfortunately there's no sure way to separate the two cases (corrupted file or bad

[sniffer] My issues with the General category, looking for a better solution

2004-12-15 Thread Matt
Pete and other Sniffer Customers, I've been having a lot of issues with false positives in the General category, and I'm in search of a better way to handle such things after making little progress without a large time commitment to the issue that this creates. The General category seemingly

Re: Re[4]: [sniffer] Few questions

2004-12-16 Thread Marc Hilliker
Pete, PM One other quick note/reminder. Use the snf2check utility on your PM downloaded rulebase files before putting them in service. This will PM ensure that you have a complete file that is not corrupted. Yeap..that is exactly what I did when I went back and looked at the files included in

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Download server is really slow..

2004-12-19 Thread Chuck Schick
Pete: It is Sunday night at 10 minutes after the hour and the download server is still very slow - so I am not too sure there is just a run on the server. Chuck Schick Warp 8, Inc. (303)-421-5140 www.warp8.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re[4]: [sniffer] Download server is really slow..

2004-12-20 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, December 20, 2004, 1:13:52 AM, Chuck wrote: CS Pete: CS It is Sunday night at 10 minutes after the hour and the download server is CS still very slow - so I am not too sure there is just a run on the server. I will check the logs to verify. _M This E-Mail came from the Message

RE: Re[4]: [sniffer] Download server is really slow..

2004-12-20 Thread George Kulman
Pete, I'm downloading right now and its very slow. George -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete McNeil Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 6:39 AM To: Chuck Schick Subject: Re[4]: [sniffer] Download server is really slow.. On Monday,

RE: Re[4]: [sniffer] Download server is really slow..

2004-12-20 Thread Hirthe, Alexander
Hello, I'm trying at the moment, Wget says 50-90 K/s (started at 40, went quick up to 90 and now going down to 50K/s) Alex This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html

Re: [sniffer] Download server is really slow..

2004-12-20 Thread Russ Uhte
Pete McNeil wrote: On Monday, December 20, 2004, 7:58:57 AM, Alexander wrote: HA Hello, HA I'm trying at the moment, Wget says 50-90 K/s (started at 40, went quick up HA to 90 and now going down to 50K/s) There are times - especially at the top of the hour - where there are quite a few downloads

Re[2]: [sniffer] Download server is really slow..

2004-12-20 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, December 20, 2004, 8:49:50 AM, Russ wrote: snip/ Avoiding that time period and following the staggered schedule we have suggested will help quite a bit. Even better if updates can be triggered by our update notifications since this allows our system to pace downloads and use the

[sniffer] why?

2004-12-21 Thread System Administrator
Pete, Our subscribers can forward spam they receive to our [EMAIL PROTECTED] address, which gets forwarded to you guys. Some spammers have been sending e-mail messages directly to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address (cutting out the middle men I guess). One spammer, www. c a s i n o b a r .com, has

Re: [sniffer] why?

2004-12-21 Thread Pete McNeil
On Tuesday, December 21, 2004, 6:20:40 AM, System wrote: SA Pete, SA Our subscribers can forward spam they receive to our [EMAIL PROTECTED] SA address, which gets forwarded to you guys. Some spammers have been sending SA e-mail messages directly to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address (cutting out the

Re: [sniffer] why?

2004-12-21 Thread System Administrator
on 12/21/04 8:21 AM, Pete McNeil wrote: The second possibility is that we've skipped the message for some safety reason (trying to avoid false positives) though it seems unlikely in this case. Once I see it I will be able to tell more. Would adding direct to spam in the subject make these

[sniffer] Change in coding policies

2004-12-21 Thread Pete McNeil
Hello Sniffer Folks, Backscatter from rejected virii and joe-jobs has become a very significant problem. Up to now we have tried as much as possible to avoid coding for NDRs and other such backscatter - though some pattern matches have been unavoidable. Generally it is a very bad

RE: [sniffer] Change in coding policies

2004-12-21 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
It sounds good to me, Pete. May I humbly suggest that this be a new result code, e.g. 046? Until now, Message Sniffer has been very parsimonious with the new categories, but this looks like one that will be here for a long time. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re[2]: [sniffer] Change in coding policies

2004-12-21 Thread Pete McNeil
On Tuesday, December 21, 2004, 12:51:19 PM, Andrew wrote: CA It sounds good to me, Pete. CA May I humbly suggest that this be a new result code, e.g. 046? Until CA now, Message Sniffer has been very parsimonious with the new categories, CA but this looks like one that will be here for a long

Re: [sniffer] Change in coding policies

2004-12-21 Thread Matt
Given that the precision is difficult to assign under the single result framework, I don't doubt the choice. Might I suggest creating a sub-group for the three main types of backscatter so that individuals can turn them off as a group instead of one rule at a time. Note that the three groups

Re[2]: [sniffer] Change in coding policies

2004-12-21 Thread Pete McNeil
On Tuesday, December 21, 2004, 1:13:15 PM, Matt wrote: M Given that the precision is difficult to assign under the single result M framework, I don't doubt the choice. Might I suggest creating a M sub-group for the three main types of backscatter so that individuals M can turn them off as a

Re: [sniffer] Change in coding policies

2004-12-21 Thread Matt
FYI, I'm still debating myself about what to do with this stuff. I'm hoping that it will go away, albeit slowly, and I presently rarely take action to correct any issues with this E-mail, though I do reprocess some individual messages. Seems that many of the C/R providers have gotten better

Re: [sniffer] Change in coding policies

2004-12-22 Thread Chris Ulrich
OK, being a new (and very happy) customer ... For example, we will be introducing rules that watch for bounces that contain large numbers of failed addresses - indicating a probable dictionary attack / joe-job ... What is a joe-job? Spam from Billy Bob? Send coffee... Chris This E-Mail

RE: [sniffer] Change in coding policies

2004-12-22 Thread Landry William
Title: Message -Original Message-From: Chris Ulrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] OK, being a new (and very happy) customer ... For example, we will be introducing rules that watch for bounces that contain large numbers of failed addresses - indicating a probable dictionary attack /

[sniffer] Sniffer updates...

2004-12-22 Thread Joe Wolf
Title: Message I'm currently using Sniffer via Imail and Declude. We all know that Ipswitch has lost their mind and is abandoning the small ISP, and now it seems that Declude has lost their way. The new version of Declude is tied to a single MAC address. That counts me out since I run

RE: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...

2004-12-22 Thread Craig Deal
Title: Message I currently use mxGuard. It works great for me with F-Prot, ClamAV, and Message Sniffer. Declude has more configuration options, but for the price mxGuard is hard to beat. Plus the cost is low enough that you can afford to purchase more than one copy if you have multiple

Re: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...

2004-12-22 Thread Pete McNeil
snip/ JW Does anyone have a complete list of mail servers that have JW direct support for Sniffer?  The Imail / Declude thing is too much JW to deal with and I'm going to make a change. http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Installation/HowTo.html There are others also, not officially

Re: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...

2004-12-22 Thread Matt
Title: Message Joe, In their defense, I don't think that they necessarily knew any better than to have approached it this way. I don't necessarily get that the new ownership has worked from the IT side of the business before and understands security and trust as a corporate administrator

RE: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...

2004-12-22 Thread Michiel Prins
Title: Message There's a Sniffer plugin for MDaemon v8.0 (MD 8.0 is still in beta) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe WolfSent: woensdag 22 december 2004 15:42To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [sniffer] Sniffer updates... I'm currently using Sniffer via Imail

RE: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...

2004-12-22 Thread John Tolmachoff (Lists)
Title: Message Joe, I will back up Matts comments. Declude has/is indeed suffering from less than honest/moral individuals/companies and they are correct in taking steps to protect their products and company. Only the method they are using is being questioned. Believe me, those of

Re: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...

2004-12-22 Thread Jim Matuska
Title: Message After much debate we decided to abandon Declude/Imail and switch to Mdaemon and will migrate sniffer to the new platform. Jim Matuska Jr.Computer Tech2, CCNANez Perce TribeInformation Systems[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Joe Wolf To: [EMAIL

Re: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...

2004-12-22 Thread Scott Fosseen
Title: Message I may have missed this if it was discussed. But my last conversation with IPSwitch is that as a current user of IMail I can continue to purchase support and keep getting updates to the IMail portions without going to the new product. The person told me that the Collaboration

Re: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...

2004-12-22 Thread Matt
Title: Message Scott Fosseen wrote: I may have missed this if it was discussed. But my last conversation with IPSwitch is that as a current user of IMail I can continue to purchase support and keep getting updates to the IMail portions without going to the new product. The

Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...

2004-12-22 Thread Pete McNeil
On Wednesday, December 22, 2004, 12:06:17 PM, Matt wrote: M Scott Fosseen wrote: snip/ M So my understanding is that IMail will still be updated for existing users. M ...sure, for a 40% increase in cost for your support contract, M and absolutely no guarantee that they won't again

Re: [sniffer] Sniffer updates...

2004-12-22 Thread Joe Wolf
Title: Message John, I've always respected your opinions. I've respected Scott at Declude as well, but I don't think he has much to say about what happens there anymore. The powers to be at Declude obviously look at their customers as theives trying to steal their product. I have installed

[sniffer] Downloads are slow...

2004-12-26 Thread Chuck Schick
Pete: It appears on weekends the sniffer downloads are really slow. I am downloading at 14 minutes past the hour and I am about 1/20 th of the normal speed. Chuck Schick Warp 8, Inc. (303)-421-5140 www.warp8.com This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and

Re: [sniffer] Downloads are slow...

2004-12-27 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, December 27, 2004, 1:17:21 AM, Chuck wrote: CS Pete: CS It appears on weekends the sniffer downloads are really slow. I am CS downloading at 14 minutes past the hour and I am about 1/20 th of the normal CS speed. That is an unusual observation - I don't think weekends have anything

[sniffer] Excess spam over the weekend

2004-12-27 Thread Jim Matuska
Is anyone else seeing a huge flood of spam over the weekend? I have received a ton of it since Friday, a lot of it is not being picked up by sniffer either. Jim Matuska Jr.Computer Tech2, CCNANez Perce TribeInformation Systems[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [sniffer] Excess spam over the weekend

2004-12-27 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, December 27, 2004, 10:24:00 AM, Jim wrote: JM Is anyone else seeing a huge flood of spam over the JM weekend?  I have received a ton of it since Friday, a lot of it is JM not being picked up by sniffer either.  I believe I can explain this phenomena. Over weekends and holidays

RE: [sniffer] Excess spam over the weekend

2004-12-27 Thread Chuck Schick
Jim: We saw just the opposite. The amount of Spam appeared to be down over the holiday weekend. We saw less total volume and less spam in the spam traps. Chuck Schick Warp 8, Inc. (303)-421-5140 www.warp8.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

[sniffer] Sniffer Updates

2004-12-27 Thread Kevin Stanford
Our updates seem to be taking a very long time. I am 85% updated and the ETA shows 07:00. Is it me? Kevin This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing list. For information and (un)subscription instructions go to http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/Help.html

Re: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates

2004-12-27 Thread Russ Uhte
Kevin Stanford wrote: Our updates seem to be taking a very long time. I am 85% updated and the ETA shows 07:00. Is it me? I see stuff like this come and go... Our updates are (finally) triggered from the email notifications... Below is a snippet of the last update that shows exactly what

Re: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates

2004-12-27 Thread Jim Matuska
I too am seeing really slow speeds, I'm running an update now and it is only downloading at about 3k/sec. Pretty bad considering we have 2 T1's and a DS3 none of which have much traffic on them this morning. Jim Matuska Jr. Computer Tech2, CCNA Nez Perce Tribe Information Systems [EMAIL

Re: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates

2004-12-27 Thread Jim Matuska
It's actually getting worse now with a timed out transfer and now under 1k a sec: Resolving www.sortmonster.net... done.Connecting to www.sortmonster.net[216.88.37.61]:80... connected.HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OKLength: 11,104,576 [application/x-sortmonster] 19% [==

Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates

2004-12-27 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, December 27, 2004, 12:46:19 PM, Landry wrote: LW Are folks taking advantage of the wget compression option before LW downloading their rulebase updates? If the slow download speeds are a LW bandwidth saturation issue on the Sniffer end, this would certainly cut down LW on the

Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates

2004-12-27 Thread Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc
Title: Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates Automate harassment reminders to those of us not using it. :) I think I'll go enable gzip tonight -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Landry William sniffer@SortMonster.com Sent: Mon Dec 27 12:36:06 2004

Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates

2004-12-27 Thread Jim Matuska
Title: Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates Does anyone have any good instructions on how to modify your update scripts to use gzip? Jim Matuska Jr.Computer Tech2, CCNANez Perce TribeInformation Systems[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Tom Baker | Netsmith Inc

[sniffer] Conditional Sniffer Updates

2004-12-27 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi, The one thing I have not seen mentioned is the ability to do CONDITIONAL downloads - which is crucial for timed downloads when most of the time there may not even BE a more current .SNF file. Just like your browser, the HTTP Request for your latest .SNF file should ALWAYS provide the

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates

2004-12-27 Thread Landry William
Title: Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates See http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/AutomatingUpdatesHelp.htmlfor some sample scripts. Bill -Original Message-From: Jim Matuska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 10:51 AMTo:

RE: [sniffer] Conditional Sniffer Updates

2004-12-27 Thread Landry William
Curl is an awesome application that we also use for automating downloads. Wget also supports conditional downloads based on time/date stamp when using the -N switch. In ether case, please also use the compression support built into each application, the sniffer rulebase files can be compressed

Re[4]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates

2004-12-27 Thread Pete McNeil
On Monday, December 27, 2004, 1:51:11 PM, Jim wrote: JM Does anyone have any good instructions on how to modify your update scripts to use gzip?  This is a good place to start: http://www.sortmonster.com/MessageSniffer/Help/gzip.html _M This E-Mail came from the Message Sniffer mailing

RE: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates

2004-12-27 Thread Michiel Prins
Title: Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Sniffer Updates I made this one, which is probably also somewhere on the sniffer site. Change directories and keys for your use: d: cd\Batch Files\Sniffer wget http://sniffer:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Sniffer/Updates/key.snf -O key.snf.gz --timestamping

RE: [sniffer] Downloads are slow...

2004-12-27 Thread Andy Schmidt
Pete, With all due respect - I think the download problem is self-inflicted, because your web site is providing unsuitable examples to your customers! Even with moderate bandwidth, your server would be able to handle tens of thousands of hits a day. Checking if an updated file exists should

[sniffer] Sniffer Updates-- am I missing something

2004-12-27 Thread Woody G Fussell
What am I missing in this thread? I use an Imail program alias that automatically runs a download script when I am notified by [EMAIL PROTECTED] when a new rule base is available; therefore only a validation needs to be preformed. I took this procedure from this list, so I know it

Re: [sniffer] Downloads are slow...

2004-12-27 Thread Matt
I agree entirely. If bandwidth has become an issue, it would be resolved with a focus on producing very tight and easily customizable scripts (a variables section in the top of the scripts). I believe that going the VBScript route might be the best way to go, or at least I believe that more

Re: [sniffer] Downloads are slow...

2004-12-28 Thread Jim Matuska
I agree that something needs to be done about the update scripts that are inadvertently downloading the full rulebase all the time. I didn't even know it but we were doing this until I went through our update script again this morning and found it didn't have the -N option in Wget, so we were

RE: [sniffer] Downloads are slow...

2004-12-28 Thread Woody G Fussell
Why do you not use a program alias and only download when you receive notification that a new rule base is available? If everyone used gzip and only downloaded when notified the bandwidth could be controlled by staggering the notifications. Woody Fussell Wilbur Smith Associates -Original

RE: [sniffer] Downloads are slow...

2004-12-28 Thread Brian Gregory
Does anyone have some simple instructions on how to setup to use a program alias? I'm using Bill Landry's script, have not had the time to look in to using a program alias to download upon receipt of notifications. Thanks, Brian Gregory President Network Innovations Inc. (913) 780-0494 x104

Re: [sniffer] Downloads are slow...

2004-12-28 Thread Russ Uhte
Brian Gregory wrote: Does anyone have some simple instructions on how to setup to use a program alias? I'm using Bill Landry's script, have not had the time to look in to using a program alias to download upon receipt of notifications. I just setup a program alias about 2 weeks ago using this as

Re[2]: [sniffer] Downloads are slow...

2004-12-28 Thread Pete McNeil
On Tuesday, December 28, 2004, 12:49:21 PM, Jim wrote: JM I agree that something needs to be done about the update scripts that are JM inadvertently downloading the full rulebase all the time. I didn't even JM know it but we were doing this until I went through our update script again JM this

Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Downloads are slow...

2004-12-28 Thread Jim Matuska
So far it seems to be working, at least it doesn't seem to be downloading the rulebase yet, I'll have to see if it does later when there is an updated rulebase. My script uses a copy at the end rather than a move. It's listed below for reference. Do you see any issues? wget -N

Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Downloads are slow...

2004-12-28 Thread Jim Matuska
Update, I just launched my script and it is downloading just fine. In my case it was as simple as adding the -N option. Jim Matuska Jr. Computer Tech2, CCNA Nez Perce Tribe Information Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Pete McNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim Matuska

Re: [sniffer] Downloads are slow...

2004-12-28 Thread Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Quick question if when you have a sucessful download if abcdef.new is renamed than what is wget comparing on the next run of the script? Darrell Jim Matuska writes: So far it seems to be working, at least it doesn't seem to be downloading the rulebase yet, I'll have to see if it does later

RE: [sniffer] Downloads are slow...

2004-12-28 Thread Andy Schmidt
While the output file is named .new, it IS comparing the file named in the URL, in his case fp0o4jye.snf against a file with the same name in the current directory. The output (-o) option only comes into play IF an download is actually occurring (after the timestamp condition). With CURL things

Re: [sniffer] Downloads are slow...

2004-12-28 Thread Jim Matuska
As far as I understand it wget is comparing the date stamp on the file in the local directory to the date stamp on the file at sortmonster.net, if its not don't download the file, if it is do download it. Jim Matuska Jr. Computer Tech2, CCNA Nez Perce Tribe Information Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [sniffer] Sniffer Downloads

2004-12-28 Thread Russ Uhte
Good point... I don't know why I didn't think of that... As soon as I get in in the morning, I'm gonna change that... That's also one of the reasons I posted to the list :) I'm always trying to make things harder for myself ;) Thanks, Russ Landry William wrote: Russ, why go through all of

Re: Re[2]: [sniffer] Downloads are slow...

2004-12-28 Thread Serge
rename abcdefg.snf abcdefg.old rename abcdefg.tst abcdefg.snf copy /V /Y abcdefg.snf C:\sniffer\abcdefg.snf :Done I would use copy /V /Y abcdefg.snf C:\sniffer\abcdefg.new Rename C:\sniffer\abcdefg.snf abcdefg.old Rename C:\sniffer\abcdefg.new abcdefg.snf C:\sniffer\abcdefg.exe reload -

Re: [sniffer] Sniffer Downloads

2004-12-28 Thread Serge
rem this script is used to update sniffer rulbase rem most of this was ibased on / inspired by what other users posted on this list, I thanks everybody for their inputs rem it calls wget, fgrep, imail1, gzip, snf2check rem it checks for new files, and can be used by both alias trigger or

RE: [sniffer] Triggered rulebase update instructions

2004-12-28 Thread Landry William
Attached is an updated instructions file to fix some typos and missed information. I'll send out another update after receiving feedback from others. Bill --- This message and any included attachments are from

RE: [sniffer] Triggered rulebase update instructions

2004-12-28 Thread John Tolmachoff (Lists)
Matt, you think too much. ;) (From one who needs to implement better scripts, including a triggered script for Sniffer.) John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: [sniffer] Triggered rulebase update instructions

2004-12-28 Thread Landry William
Title: Message Thanks for all of the suggestions, Matt. See my comments below: -Original Message-From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:17 PMTo: sniffer@SortMonster.comSubject: Re: [sniffer] Triggered rulebase update instructionsBill,I

RE: [sniffer] Triggered rulebase update instructions

2004-12-28 Thread Landry William
Title: Message John, since you have not implemented a trigger program alias yet, would you be willing to test the setup instructions and provide feedback? Bill -Original Message-From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 10:30 PMTo:

RE: [sniffer] Triggered rulebase update instructions

2004-12-29 Thread John Tolmachoff (Lists)
Title: Message Never mind, I reread your original post and then checked my server and already had them installed. Now I just wait for the next update to occur. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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