RE: This is what I meant by AE integration

There needs to be a I Quietly use the FX Tree t-shirt ;) From: Jason S [jasonsta...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 April 2013 02:02 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: This is what I meant by AE integration Personally I do most of my 2D comps in Nuke

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not. And if your comps are based on plugins then the FXtree is just not applicable. From: Christopher Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 3:40 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: This is what I meant by AE integration What does the FX Tree lack compared to AE / Nuke ? Christopher

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Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 3:40 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: This is what I meant by AE integration   What does

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yes there is an SDK for the fxtree, there was even two commercial plugins from RevisionFX, the most popular one being RealSmartMotionBlur On Monday, April 8, 2013, Eugen Sares wrote: If it is chosen not to continue FXTree development, then at least all SDK hooks necessary should be supplied

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What does the FX Tree lack compared to AE / Nuke ? It's not a good question to ask. It's like asking, what's the difference between OneNote and EMACS. People use EMACS for a thousand different reasons than taking notes, and so do people using AE or Nuke. The low hanging fruits that are

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Fighting to update the FXTree is not a solution imho. Supporting a compositing software in an already heavy lifting 3d software is quite hard. Especially if it wasn't thought off from the ground up. I'd be more happy with a plugin like what Maxon and Adobe is doing. Code something that

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On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com wrote: Wouldn't the solution be to update the FXTree so it can use OFX plugins? That opens a lot of doors We could have done that; the last time we looked at the OFX API (I was involved in its early

Re: This is what I meant by AE integration

I've always thought that the UI was acceptable but it's annoying that it's crashes all the time. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com wrote: Wouldn't the solution be

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Mikael Pettersén wrote: I've always thought that the UI was acceptable but it's annoying that it's crashes all the time Hum, I never had much crashing, but I know that if you give it too much memory it will become very unstable. Although it manages even very big comps fine with

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I know composite isn't the most stable program, if you don't like FxTree or it doesn't do it for you, there is composite and comes with Softimage. Jason S Monday, April 08, 2013 11:19 PM Mikael Pettersn wrote: I've always thought that the UI was acceptable

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Thanks Christopher On 08/04/2013 11:50 PM, Christopher wrote: I know composite isn't the most stable program, if you don't like FxTree or it doesn't do it for you, there is composite and comes with Softimage. Jason S Monday, April 08, 2013 11:19 PM

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as Nuke for motion graphics – it can be done but at your own risk and peril. From: Jason S Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 5:44 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: This is what I meant by AE integration Paul Griswold Personally for compositing I would always go with Fusion

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*To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: This is what I meant by AE integration Paul Griswold Personally for compositing I would always go with Fusion. Especially now that they have Generation AM out and they just released

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...@gmail.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 07, 2013 5:44 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: This is what I meant by AE integration Paul Griswold Personally for compositing I would always go with Fusion. Especially now that they have Generation AM out and they just released some great

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own risk and peril. From: Jason Smailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 5:44 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: This is what I meant by AE integration Paul Griswold Personally for compositing I would always go with Fusion

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a great thing they had and forgot.. *From:* Dan Yargici [danyarg...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 07 April 2013 01:47 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: This is what I meant by AE integration Yes

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jasonsta...@gmail.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 07, 2013 5:44 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: This is what I meant by AE integration Paul Griswold Personally for compositing I would always go with Fusion. Especially now that they have Generation AM out and they just released

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, April 07, 2013 8:15 AM Hopefully if nothing else this AE Maxon  collaboration might prod them into realising just what a great thing they had and forgot.. From: Dan Yargici [danyarg...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 April 2013 01:47 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: This is wh

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what a great thing they had and forgot.. From: Dan Yargici [danyarg...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 April 2013 01:47 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: This is what I meant by AE integration Yes, it is - and this is coming from one of it's

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mailto:danyarg...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 April 2013 01:47 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: This is what I meant by AE integration Yes, it is - and this is coming from one of it's biggest evangelists! There are still cases where it's

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Trust me, I've dealt with investors setting up a budget for a new company. If you can save $5k per seat by simply picking one package over another, it will get noticed. I've been trying to get Autodesk to realize that for a long time. New companies spring up all over the world every day, so

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On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 1:01 PM, olivier jeannel olivier.jean...@noos.fr wrote: There are still potential new customers to invest in XSI, no ? I blindly believe I'm not a dying race. not sure.. XSI was just 450$ for four years and people hesitated to get it anyway. It should have taken the

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Yes I remember that 450$ offer, it was limited (less option than advance) if I remember correctly. I remember there was a lot of discussion on xsi base around this as well. ... Well, the good news is price doesn't do everything. And for the rest, Asia is the future hoppefully. Le 07/04/2013

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__ From: Dan Yargici [danyarg...@gmail.com] Sent: 07 April 2013 01:47 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: This is what I meant by AE integration Yes, it is - and this is coming from one of it's biggest evangelists! There are still cases where it's integration provides grea

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not sure.. XSI was just 450$ for four years and people hesitated to get it anyway. It should have taken the market by storm at that point. I've got a lot of opinions on all subjects - :P - but I'm really not sure why that didn't happen. Theres one very big difference between then and now .

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s used for film/vfx compositing jumps to mind as well as Nuke for motion graphics it can be done but at your own risk and peril. From: Jason S Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 5:44 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: This is what I meant by AE integration Paul Griswold Per

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Paul: If you export the fbx as 2010 in Softimage the animation will work in Fusion as well. On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com wrote: Fusion is great with Softimage it's 3D environment is fantastic. Getting things back and forth isn't as

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Thanks - I'll give that a try. I know the Eyeon guys complain that Autodesk doesn't adhere to the FBX standards (even though didn't AD come up with FBX?) and so Fusion's FBX support isn't 100%. It'd be nice to have Alembic in both.. -Paul On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Mikael Pettersén

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...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Paul Griswold Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 4:29 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: This is what I meant by AE integration Thanks - I'll give that a try. I know the Eyeon guys complain that Autodesk doesn't adhere to the FBX standards (even

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or any other party. ** ** *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Griswold *Sent:* Sunday, April 07, 2013 4:29 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: This is what I meant by AE integration

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-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [ mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.comsoftimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Griswold *Sent:* Sunday, April 07, 2013 4:29 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: This is what I meant by AE integration

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Do you use the FXTree Guillaume, actively ? Some on the list grew with FXTree while others do there work in a compositing program. Whatever rocks your boat, I suppose. Christopher Guillaume Laforge Sunday, April 07, 2013 7:04 PM How many people on this list use FXTree

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. From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Paul Griswold Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 4:29 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: This is what I meant by AE integration Thanks - I'll give

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What does the FX Tree lack compared to AE / Nuke ? Christopher Jason S Sunday, April 07, 2013 8:02 PM Personally I do most of my 2D comps in Nuke, (only mostly because of the rather short bug/feature section of my post) So the previously discussed (if only)

RE: This is what I meant by AE integration

- From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Angus Davidson Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 12:01 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: This is what I meant by AE integration not sure.. XSI was just 450$ for four years

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Fusion is great with Softimage it's 3D environment is fantastic. Getting things back and forth isn't as easy as I'd like, though. You can export your scenes as FBX, but Fusion won't/doesn't see camera animation in FBX files from XSI for some reason. So you have to export your camera as a

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Despite fusion flaws would you still vouch for Fusion or should I stick with AE, unless another compositor in mind, excluding NUKE ? :) Christopher Paul Griswold Saturday, April 06, 2013 5:30 AM Fusion is great with Softimage it's 3D environment is fantastic. Getting

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Personally for compositing I would always go with Fusion. Especially now that they have Generation AM out and they just released some great open source Python modules for pipeline building. I know Nuke is the big boy these days and I think Nuke and Fusion both have their strengths and

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It's helpful information. I decided to go with Fusion, which I already hand in mind anyhow. I was going to go with a Autodesk Composite / AE workflow, that is a mixed mess IMO :) Like I said, I don't have hate toward AE, it's just if you factor in the price of AE plus some effective plug-ins

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that second video... way to name drop ILM and not making any sense. anyways, maxon has done a great job! it would be difficult to match with softimage, at least the rendering part. cinema has its own renderer so they can implement their renderer more easily then one would with mental ray inside

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Node based workflows has the advantage of easily having the outputs of effect streams as sources very easily (visually), giving more space for complexity while remaning managable understandable. Whereas timeline based such as AE (with stacked effects) it's easier to have longer with

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Paul Griswold Personally for compositing I would always go with Fusion. Especially now that they have Generation AM out and they just released some great open source Python modules for pipeline building. I know Nuke is the big boy these days and I think Nuke and Fusion both

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If you work with Nuke, also be SURE to check-out T.I.M. XSI 2 Nuke (!) Imports objects (planes or more complex object along with UVs), cameras, all with anims (not sure about deforms) flawlessly! Must have in a XSi Nuke Pipeline On 05/04/2013 8:53 PM, Paul Griswold wrote: I brought up a

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Nuke pipeline to expensive for me. The only thing I hate with AE is the slew of plug-ins, that is the plus Nuke has, it's all mostly within the software. Fusion is another alternative, considering the plugins for AE, maybe I should go the fusion route. Christopher Jason S