[biofuels-biz] Re: Bio- vs. Palm Oil?

2001-06-27 Thread david_design
Greenpeace and Friends of the Earth are a problem. They often don't do their homework properly and like to have something dramatic to say. UK FOE has trotted out similar rubbish in the UK press, but try contacting the people responsible - you'll never get a reply. Many of their members simply

RE: [biofuels-biz] Bio- vs. Palm Oil?

2001-06-27 Thread Hanns B. Wetzel
Yes. I am sure that is true. But Deutz Motors have modified one of their engines a F6L413FW, power output 74kw @ 1500 rpm, to run on straight CNO under full warranty at a SPC-CIRAC funded pilot power generation project on the Fijian island of Vanuabalavu. This project was commenced in May last

AW: [biofuels-biz] PalmOil Biodiesel!

2001-06-27 Thread Camillo Holecek
Samai, I have one fundamental question: What is the price of 1 liter of diesel fuel at the pump in your country now? (Please tell us in U$ dollar!) And what is the price of 1 liter coconut and of palm oil, when you buy it in tons? (NOT in 1 liter bottles) Without that basic information it

AW: [biofuels-biz] Re: Bio- vs. Palm Oil?

2001-06-27 Thread Camillo Holecek
You mentioned german Prof. Elsbett. I met him. Please let it be known that he is a great technician, that he is over 70 years of age now, that he defines himself as a marxist (!), that he did design a dedicated veg.oil engine for few hundred kW size, that it was not a commercial succes and that

AW: [biofuels-biz] Re: Sistem for collecting used oils

2001-06-27 Thread Camillo Holecek
Sorry, you missed a good part of my point and I may have to be more clear: There is a wide range of toxics. Agreed. The problem I mentioned is of the DIOXINE class ! That is a level of toxidity, where any trace IS relevant and there is ZERO TOLERANCE, specially with authorithies! All this

Re: [biofuels-biz] Bio- vs. Palm Oil?

2001-06-27 Thread Samai Jaiin
Camillo, Keith, Dave, Thanks for your comments. I would really like to talk to Prof.Elsbett, please email me his contact if you can. The current retail price including tax for petro-diesel is 14 Baht/L (44Baht=1US$). The bulk purchase price for coconut oil including transport is now 11.50 Baht/L.

[biofuels-biz] Re: Bio- vs. Palm Oil?

2001-06-27 Thread Keith Addison
On fuel quality we have to be whiter than white and be seen to be so. Dave Hi Dave Indeed yes. You raised some previous questions about quality. High FFA fats can be acid esterified - see Alecs Kak's recipe on www.journeytoforever.org. However, I would add that you do need to titrate. High

Re: [biofuels-biz] Bio- vs. Palm Oil?

2001-06-27 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Samai Keith, The sooner you write the better ! Okay, I'll try to do it soon. Thanks for the information. For one thing, I didn't know the guys burning coco and palm were using a heater on the fuel line, that makes a lot more sense to me. By the way, I'm not at all against the use of coco

[biofuels-biz] Re: Marketing Bio Fuel

2001-06-27 Thread Keith Addison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to be cheaper to the customer than the alternative. When it comes to diesel fuel, nobody really cares a fig about it's greeness. They just want cheap fuel. That's very sweeping, Dave. Lots of people care that it's cleaner, including companies, and it makes a

[biofuels-biz] Re: Sistem for collecting used oils

2001-06-27 Thread david_design
Camillo, Thankyou for settling this issue. Dioxins are indeed a serious problem being long lived and only destroyed at very high temperatures - way above those inside engines. With high temperatures, NOx emissions become a problem, but at least they are far less dangerous than dioxins.

[biofuels-biz] Re: Marketing Bio Fuel

2001-06-27 Thread david_design
Keith you are indeed correct, but if we qualified every statement we'd never get done On a medium/large scale of biodiesel production you have to assume that negative/realistic attitude. It's one thing selling a few litres to interested committed people like you and me. It's entirely another

[biofuels-biz] Re: Bio- vs. Palm Oil?

2001-06-27 Thread david_design
Alecs' comment is interesting, but I got less smoke on base/base ester. I also got considerably more byproduct using less methanol (15% instead of 20+%). I do not think there was much unreacted oil in either product. For the record, I get less mpg than from 100% petroleum ultra low sulphur

[biofuels-biz] Re: Crambe oil-HELP

2001-06-27 Thread david_design
The oil could be wet. Have you made sure it's really dry by boiling to 120C. Or could it have any detergent in there? If it's dry, try pre reacting the Crambe oil with sulphuric acid then doing a normal base/base reaction on the mixture. The acid reaction is not water tolerant. Alecs Kak has

[biofuel] House Heater

2001-06-27 Thread Christopher S. Weller
Hello Everyone 1.I have a gravity feed oil heater (we use no2 dyed kero) (only heater in house besides elec space heaters) 2.My tank is 100 Gal. (approx) and is mounted outside on stilts 3.We use 1 tank per 2-3 months to heat the house 4.there is a flow regulator on the heater it self (settings

[biofuel] Peugeot / Off Topic

2001-06-27 Thread Paul Gobert
- Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Peugeot 404 was better off-road than most of the 4x4 toys I see around these days. I once swapped it with a friend for a few days because I needed his pickup, and when we reswapped he said: Don't you ever have to put fuel

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2001-06-27 Thread John Wayne
Well, John Wayne..the reason that I joined this group is to be a bit The John Wayne signature was a quip in response to someone on list who implied the Poppycock posting(s) to be John Wayne against the world. Or so I inferred. Was curious if he was reading posts all the way through [snip]

[biofuel] fitting a diesel to a gasoline powered vehicle/thanks for the info

2001-06-27 Thread Paul Cooksley
thanks for the advise dick, it gives me a sound starting point, 2nd hand Japanese diesel engines are relatively easy to come by here, I can get a 3L turbo for around AUD $3000 (complete assembly) ready to drop in. My vehicle although GM is Australian made based on Opel from Germany and uses

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2001-06-27 Thread mbstartech
Todd, (John) I wanted to say amen. I also wanted to tell you that I'd rather not use my Mercedes 300D as the guinea pig for the biodiesel experiments-I have purchased an ex-military truck, with a giant 6 cyl multi-fuel diesel. I don't think that they had biodiesel in mind, when they built this.

[biofuel] Mercedes 300D Mili Truck was Re: Grannies and $5.00.....

2001-06-27 Thread John Wayne
EJ, Conservative penchant understood. You may wish to contact HempCar.org as to what results they are having with biodiesel in their Merc. They are running hemp biodiesel though. Your mili-truck will run on Campbells soup if there is enough oil in it - almost. Biodiesel will work fine. It might

[biofuel] diesels other than vw?

2001-06-27 Thread eric almanzan
vw has diesel cars out there, also there are old mercedes, peugeot? and some other brands. I also know that gm offered diesels in cutlasses in the late 70s, early 80s. It would seem to me that all diesels are now in the junkyard because when it came down to needing a new car people just

Re: [biofuel] Re: Bashing over/how about solutions?

2001-06-27 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Dana Keith, I did not mean to imply that YOU were bashing...your posts seem very balanced as a whole. Why thankyou! :-) But I should say that it's quite easy to be balanced about some things when you're not a national of anywhere in particular. But I must take some issue with your

Re: [biofuel] fitting a diesel to a gasoline powered vehicle/thanks for the info

2001-06-27 Thread John
Whoa!! As a motor mechanic and engineer, we used to repower vehicles, mainly replacing petrol with diesel engines. But if you have a late model Opel, think again, I don't think that its going to be easy, have you thought of trying to match up the transaxles? Why butcher a perfectly good valuable