Re: [Biofuel] Bug Power

2005-06-05 Thread robert luis rabello
Keith Addison wrote: Both are carbohydrates. Cellulose is a carbohydrate too, but separating it from its lignin binder is not an easy task. Acid hydrolysis is the most common method at this point, but I have papers buried in my files concerning an ammonia / pressure process that broke

Re: [Biofuel] Robin's solution... was: DA Drops...

2005-06-05 Thread Keith Addison
Hi John and all It's crap anyway, Robin Williams didn't write it: http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/williams.asp Urban Legends Reference Pages: Politics (Robin Williams) False. It's not even new, it's been doing the rounds for two years. Best wishes Keith lisa simpson wrote: 5.) No

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-05 Thread capt3d
In a message dated 6/3/05 12:45:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree that a military recruiter will paint as rosey a picture of service as possible, but no one has to volunteer. sorry, larry, but many, many, many enlisted men sign up because from their perspective, at the time they put

Re: [Biofuel] [Fwd: The Mouse Who Kills Sharks ...]

2005-06-05 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Kim Greetings, While the Disney company has never been lily white in their treatment of animals, [do you remember the lemmings committing suicide?], this is beyond the point that I ever thought they would go. Put Disney and some aspects of Hong Kong together and it's no big surprise.

Re: [Biofuel] Bug Power

2005-06-05 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Robert Keith Addison wrote: Both are carbohydrates. Cellulose is a carbohydrate too, but separating it from its lignin binder is not an easy task. Acid hydrolysis is the most common method at this point, but I have papers buried in my files concerning an ammonia / pressure process

Re: [Biofuel] Robin's solution... was: DA Drops...

2005-06-05 Thread John Hayes
lisa simpson wrote: 5.) No foreign students over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a D and it's back home baby. Clearly this author has never stepped foot on a modern American engineering quad. If you get rid of the foreign-born engineering

[Biofuel] Re: was Robin's solution... was: DA Drops...

2005-06-05 Thread Alt.EnergyNetwork
What a load of bull. I sincerely doubt that the Robin Williams was the author of the xenophobic rant below. tallex ---Original Message--- From: Jerry Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Robin's solution... was: DA Drops... Sent: 05 Jun 2005 03:42:17 AMEN

[Biofuel] more on transparent solar cells

2005-06-05 Thread Alt.EnergyNetwork
more on transparent solar cells regards tallex The novel photochromic system reacts to the lighting conditions. The glass panes automatically colour when they are illuminated, and bleach in the dark. The particular advantage of the new development, in comparison to previous photochromic

Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine as fuel

2005-06-05 Thread Balaji
Hello Bill. If the purpose of gasification is only providing thermal energy for the chicken house with the disposal of chicken manure (and glycerine) as added bonus, the biomass couldbe gasifiedwith a simple updraftgasifier, This will certainly produce more tarsbut these can be burnt in

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-05 Thread Michael Redler
"the military is keenly aware that the socio-economic realities of our country do most of the recruiting for them" Absolutely! Although the behavior of many recruitershas beenan embarrassment to the uniform, they are only part of the problem.There is the new draft happening under our

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-05 Thread Terry DeSimone
How about it's a good place to get a start in a career field,learn useful skills,be exposed to other people from other backgrounds,get to travel and see places that they would never normally get to see? Opportunity is opportunity no matter where you find it. Dangerous? So is waking up and walking

Re: [Biofuel] Re: was Robin's solution... was: DA Drops...

2005-06-05 Thread Terry DeSimone
Or that the real Lisa Simpson is forwarding it? Sounds like some merry prankster stuff. Terry"Alt.EnergyNetwork" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a load of bull.I sincerely doubt that "the Robin Williams"was the author of the xenophobic rant below.tallex---Original Message--- From: "Jerry

Re: [Biofuel] Re: was Robin's solution... was: DA Drops...

2005-06-05 Thread Jerry Turner
Doesn't make a damn to me who said itits just plain good ole advise. Jerry - Original Message - From: Alt.EnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2005 12:42 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Re: was Robin's solution... was: DA Drops... What a

Re: [Biofuel] debunking popular myths... was Robin's solution

2005-06-05 Thread lisa simpson
...and while we're debunking popular myths lets nail this one too. Plutonium, the most significant element in nuclear waste, is so carcinogenic that hypothetically half a kilo evenly distributed could cause cancer in everyone on Earth. By Dr. Helen Caldicott It is worth a look here for a

Re: [Biofuel] Re: was Robin's solution... was: DA Drops...

2005-06-05 Thread John Hayes
No it isn't. It's naive isolationist biggoted xenophobic crap. jh Jerry Turner wrote: Doesn't make a damn to me who said itits just plain good ole advise. Jerry - Original Message - From: Alt.EnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, June

Re: [Biofuel] debunking popular myths... was Robin's solution

2005-06-05 Thread Appal Energy
Lisa, You're not debunking any myth. What you're doing is sidetracking the truth through an act of omission. Plutonium when ingested is essentially regarded as relatively harmless (not entirely, but relatively) as it's biological residence time is so short. In fact, notorious nuclear zealot

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-05 Thread Appal Energy
Terry, You forgot to include with your military sales pitch/brochure travel to exotic places, meet interesting people and then kill them. And come on. On a per capita basis no more military personel than civilians die each day from walking out the front door of their domiciles. It's what

Re: [Biofuel] Re: was Robin's solution... was: DA Drops...

2005-06-05 Thread lisa simpson
yes, I've noticed that most of the criticism is the shoot the messenger variety. I'd prefer to discuss content, and comments like xenophobic rant and load of bull are not discussion. ls --- Jerry Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't make a damn to me who said itits just plain good ole

Re: [Biofuel] debunking popular myths... was Robin's solution

2005-06-05 Thread lisa simpson
Lets avoid the personal attacks and stick to a discussion of the facts. ls Or, you can continue to assess the truth as myth and lend yourself to the continued dis-informing, mis-informing and propagandizing of others. Todd Swearingen __ Do

Re: [Biofuel] Re: was Robin's solution... was: DA Drops...

2005-06-05 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Jerry Doesn't make a damn to me who said itits just plain good ole advise. Is it really. Unless you can tell them why it ain't so, that makes you a xenophobe, in the expressed view of several American list members. That's okay by you too? Let's have a look. It starts like this:

Re: [Biofuel] debunking popular myths... was Robin's solution

2005-06-05 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Lisa Lets avoid the personal attacks and stick to a discussion of the facts. ls Todd discussed the facts and you're trying to squirm out from under. Now stop it and give him an honest response. Whether you see it a personal attack or not, you are most certainly propagandizing here.

Re: [Biofuel] Re: was Robin's solution... was: DA Drops...

2005-06-05 Thread Appal Energy
comments like xenophobic rant and load of bull are not discussion. And you may notice Ms. Simpson, neither are comments such as it's just plain good ole advise. Presuming that you are a resident of a democracy with an equal protection under the law clause in its constitution, you might

Re: [Biofuel] debunking popular myths... was Robin's solution

2005-06-05 Thread John Hayes
Seems to me I did exactly that about 2 posts back and you've completely ignored them, but I'll recapitulate them here. Regarding ANWR, at peak production in 2025, it will only reduce US foreign oil consumption by 3 to 6%. Conversely, raising the CAFE standards could do at least twice that,

Re: [Biofuel] debunking popular myths... was Robin's solution

2005-06-05 Thread Appal Energy
Ms. Simpson, Go back and read what was written. It was an option that you could exercise, whether knowingly or not. It was far from a personal attack. You'll know a personal attack beyond any shadow of a doubt should there ever be cause for one to occur. So as you suggested, let's stick to

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-05 Thread capt3d
In a message dated 6/5/05 5:05:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They could be in your neighborhood selling drugs,robbing and stealing,that would be much easier than making a commitment to improving their lives. oh my, terry. enough with the ad hominim. the fact that these individuals

Re: [Biofuel] Re: was Robin's solution... was: DA Drops...

2005-06-05 Thread John Hayes
Nope, sorry. Never voted for Bill Clinton. I've been on the GOP voter rolls my entire adult life. I was even a get out the vote election night phone bank volunteer on a Republican Congressional campaign. In 1992, in fact. But, frankly, I fail to see how whether or not I voted for Clinton has

Re: [Biofuel] debunking popular myths... was Robin's solution

2005-06-05 Thread capt3d
sorry, ls, it is *you* who is attacking, by playing the victim. todd's comment was not an attack as you well know. he was criticising *your* failure to examine the facts adequately, and challenging you to do so. your selective quote intended to misrepresent his meaning amounts to nothing

Re: [Biofuel] debunking popular myths... was Robin's solution

2005-06-05 Thread Appal Energy
Awww, that's okay capt3d, I've been slobbered, drooled on and thoroughly drenched by enough infants in my day as to not much worry about it anymore and tend to treat it all as part of normal fare. Slurring is righ up there with involuntary actions for some. So I shouldn't be overly dismayed

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-05 Thread Michael Redler
"If your going to sling red herring and strawmen, at least aim for the fireplace where they can both be appropriately toasted." OK -- that was pretty cool Todd.Somebody wrote: "They could be in your neighborhood selling drugs,robbing and stealing,that would be much easier than making a

Re: [Biofuel] Bug Power

2005-06-05 Thread robert luis rabello
Keith Addison wrote: Could the resulting, simpler sugars also be worked on by yeast to produce fuel ethanol? Yes. That was, in fact, the intent of the research. I believe I may have left out a step, as enzymatic treatment appears necessary. (I shouldn't be quoting without verifying

Re: [Biofuel] debunking popular myths... was Robin's solution

2005-06-05 Thread lisa simpson
--- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Lisa Lets avoid the personal attacks and stick to a discussion of the facts. ls Todd discussed the facts and you're trying to squirm out from under. Now stop it and give him an honest response. The nationmaster link states that 10

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-05 Thread Terry DeSimone
What you say has validity,could go either way. But since this is all hypothetical in that we're not talking about a certain individual,we're both speculating. Many individuals wash out of the military at some point due to drugs or some type of mental instability (not percentage wise,but many).

Re: [Biofuel] media hype...was debunking popular myths

2005-06-05 Thread lisa simpson
i prefer to think you know better. so give us something real. come on, we're dying here. -chris the point is not the relative toxicity of plutonium, of course it's nasty stuff. The point is that media hype, attributed to a medical professional who should know better, i.e. that half a

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-05 Thread Terry DeSimone
Not exactly sure what you're trying to read into this or where you're trying to take it,but if this is the way you feel,this is the way you feel. Regards, TerryMichael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "If your going to sling red herring and strawmen, at least aim for the fireplace where they

Re: [Biofuel] pointless bashing.. was robin's solution

2005-06-05 Thread lisa simpson
The point of posting the robin williams fluff piece was not to extoll it's questionable 'validity' [notice I never said anything to support it] but rather to illustrate the shallow pointlessness of the incessant 'Merican bashing which seems to characterize 'political correctness' among the