Re: [Biofuel] Water heater

2005-08-31 Thread Brian Rodgers
Thank you Keith I will start reading right now. http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/me4.html Amazing to say the least. I love to see that waste oil burning space heater glowing. Boy howdy! Our situation is a bit different in that we need to burn waste wood products.

Re: [Biofuel] Water heater

2005-08-30 Thread Bob Clark
Marty Phee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will a water heater ware out/rust out? Say if you start from a new heater. How long can you expect it to last? Marty, and all I am currently using six water heaters that have been in service for a little over five years. (One has actually been

Re: [Biofuel] Water heater

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
5-15 years, then they start leaking. Bob Clark wrote: Marty Phee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will a water heater ware out/rust out? Say if you start from a new heater. How long can you expect it to last? Marty, and all I am currently using six water heaters that have been in service for a

Re: [Biofuel] Water heater

2005-08-30 Thread Mike Weaver
Sorry, that's false. It should have read: A water heater will not leak unless you are on vacation. Mike Weaver wrote: 5-15 years, then they start leaking. Bob Clark wrote: Marty Phee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will a water heater ware out/rust out? Say if you start from a new heater.

Re: [Biofuel] Water heater

2005-08-30 Thread Marty Phee
Thanks for the info. My friend and I are going to do this. I'd like to start with a proven design and go from there and he has grand plans of how to do everything. I really don't have room to do it and he does so I need to give him leeway in the design. Bob Clark wrote: Marty Phee [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Water heater

2005-08-30 Thread AntiFossil
Marty, and all, I have to respectfully disagree with Bob C. on this one. The days of freebies are still very much alive! It might just be an issue of where you seek your freebies : ) Since approx. March of this year, I have been able to get 18 used water heaters. My only cost has been the time,

[Biofuel] Water heater

2005-08-29 Thread Marty Phee
Will a water heater ware out/rust out? Say if you start from a new heater. How long can you expect it to last? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at

[Biofuel] water powered pumps

2005-07-03 Thread Kirk McLoren
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Re: [Biofuel] water wash emulsification

2005-02-03 Thread Ecogenics3
hi, how much lye did you use? perhaps you didnt get a complete reaction.. Marc ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel

RE: [Biofuel] water wash emulsification

2005-02-01 Thread fox mulder
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fox mulder Sent: 31 January 2005 09:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] water wash emulsification --- anibal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello! thanks again for the wonderful

Re: [Biofuel] water wash emulsification

2005-01-31 Thread fox mulder
--- anibal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello! thanks again for the wonderful support.! i just did a batch of Bio from a thick paste and solid fats from fast food restaurant.. the reaction came out well , with a little layer of soap on the top is this because the oil has water?

RE: [Biofuel] water wash emulsification

2005-01-31 Thread malcolm maclure
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fox mulder Sent: 31 January 2005 09:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] water wash emulsification --- anibal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello! thanks again for the wonderful support.! i just did a batch of Bio from a thick paste and solid fats

Re: [Biofuel] water wash emulsification

2005-01-31 Thread John Guttridge
problems by finding a better feedstock. is there no better oil than this thick paste of solid fats available? anibal wrote: hello! thanks again for the wonderful support.! i just did a batch of Bio from a thick paste and solid fats from fast food restaurant.. the reaction came out

Re: [Biofuel] water wash emulsification

2005-01-31 Thread Keith Addison
Comments below... --- anibal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello! thanks again for the wonderful support.! i just did a batch of Bio from a thick paste and solid fats from fast food restaurant.. the reaction came out well , with a little layer of soap on the top is this

RE: [Biofuel] water wash emulsification

2005-01-31 Thread Keith Addison
Keith Malcolm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of fox mulder Sent: 31 January 2005 09:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] water wash emulsification --- anibal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello! thanks again

Re: [Biofuel] water wash emulsification

2005-01-31 Thread Appal Energy
:06 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] water wash emulsification regardless of the cause of your emulsion you could probably solve your problems by finding a better feedstock. is there no better oil than this thick paste of solid fats available? anibal wrote: hello! thanks again for the wonderful

[Biofuel] water wash emulsification

2005-01-29 Thread anibal
hello! thanks again for the wonderful support.! i just did a batch of Bio from a thick paste and solid fats from fast food restaurant.. the reaction came out well , with a little layer of soap on the top is this because the oil has water? or was it a bit too much catalyst? anywyays

Re: [Biofuel] water wash emulsification

2005-01-29 Thread Legal Eagle
- Original Message - From: anibal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:08 PM Subject: [Biofuel] water wash emulsification hello! thanks again for the wonderful support.! i just did a batch of Bio from a thick paste and solid fats from

Re: Reply and agreed: [Biofuel] Water in Diesel Combustion

2004-11-18 Thread F. Desprez
Readers, Keith is so right when he sent Water in Diesel Combustion As a matter of fact during WWII many of the high performance warplanes (on all sides!) used water injection as a way to increase combustion performance. Regarding street vehicles, There is a guy (professor)in New Zealand

Re: Reply and agreed: [Biofuel] Water in Diesel Combustion

2004-11-18 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Frantz, Je vodrais aquazole! Je vais paris! I visited Paris and recognized the buses. Yes, I also think they are in Spain too. Je vodrais aquazole! PWolfe --- F. Desprez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phillip Wolfe a écrit : Readers, Keith is so right when he sent Water in Diesel

Re: Reply and agreed: [Biofuel] Water in Diesel Combustion

2004-11-17 Thread dwoodard
The material used for injecting into the intake systems of aircraft engines (I think typically into the supercharger impeller eye) was a water/methanol mixture (generally 40% methanol) and its main purpose was to cool the air/fuel misture and therefore make it denser, so more fuel could be burned

[Biofuel] Water in Diesel Combustion

2004-11-16 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.dieselnet.com/ DieselNet Technology Guide È Engine Design for Low Emissions www.DieselNet.com. Copyright © Ecopoint Inc. Revision 2002.02d Water in Diesel Combustion Abstract: Addition of water to the diesel process decreases combustion temperatures and lowers NOx emissions.

Reply and agreed: [Biofuel] Water in Diesel Combustion

2004-11-16 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Readers, Keith is so right when he sent Water in Diesel Combustion As a matter of fact during WWII many of the high performance warplanes (on all sides!) used water injection as a way to increase combustion performance. Regarding street vehicles, There is a guy (professor)in New Zealand and/or

[biofuel] Water (was next generation solar generation)

2004-09-08 Thread Darryl McMahon
Thanks Keith, one of those topics I need to do more research on. However, I cringed when I saw the references to Blue Gold. While I definitely sympathize with the sentiment, I found the book itself to be so filled with errors that I wonder if it helps or hinders the cause. On the other

Re: [biofuel] Water (was next generation solar generation)

2004-09-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Darryl Thanks Keith, one of those topics I need to do more research on. Don't we all! However, I cringed when I saw the references to Blue Gold. While I definitely sympathize with the sentiment, I found the book itself to be so filled with errors that I wonder if it helps or hinders the

[biofuel] Water Purificationn

2004-09-08 Thread Peggy
Hello Keith and other interested respondents, This is a long post--I apologize in advance. I wrote a fairly long personal reply about our water-cleaning device to a couple of list members because I didn't think that the project was exactly suited for the biofuels list. Our researchers are

Re: [biofuel] water purification

2004-09-07 Thread Dr. Eric R. Punzalan
Hi peggy, More info please? :) eric MASUD OMAR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Peggy, Will appreciate if you could kindly forward me more on your project.Would like to see if the same system can be applied in BAngladesh. Warmest regards. Masud Omar At 08:18 PM 9/5/04 -0400, you wrote:

Re: [biofuel] water purification

2004-09-06 Thread Martin Klingensmith
Hello Peggy, I am interested in reading about the details of this system, do you have any patents or public papers I can read? -- -- Martin Klingensmith http://infoarchive.net/ http://nnytech.net/ Peggy wrote: Hello Keith, Our research group has invented a water-cleaning device that

Re: [biofuel] water purification

2004-09-06 Thread MASUD OMAR
Dear Peggy, Will appreciate if you could kindly forward me more on your project.Would like to see if the same system can be applied in BAngladesh. Warmest regards. Masud Omar At 08:18 PM 9/5/04 -0400, you wrote: Hello Peggy, I am interested in reading about the details of this system, do you

[biofuel] water injection question

2004-08-17 Thread R. Joseph Murphy
Quick question This may be simple or so obvious that I over look it, but . Does anyone know if a water injection system has any affects on exaust gas emissions? I would think a lower temp would minimally lower the NO emissions,is this true? thanks, joseph Yahoo!

Re: [biofuel] water injection question

2004-08-17 Thread robert luis rabello
R. Joseph Murphy wrote: Quick question This may be simple or so obvious that I over look it, but . Does anyone know if a water injection system has any affects on exaust gas emissions? Yes, it does. The water vaporizing tends to absorb a portion of combustion energy, thereby

Re: [biofuel] water injection question

2004-08-17 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Robert, RJM There's a lot of information about this here: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/30409/ Diesel water injection - was Biodiesel burns hotter or cooler? HTH Best wishes Keith R. Joseph Murphy wrote: Quick question This may be simple or so obvious that I over look

Re: [biofuel] water injection question

2004-08-17 Thread Greg Harbican
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 04:40 Subject: Re: [biofuel] water injection question Hello Robert, RJM There's a lot of information about this here: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/30409/ Diesel water injection - was Biodiesel burns hotter

Re: [biofuel] water injection question

2004-08-17 Thread Martin Klingensmith
Greg Harbican wrote: A while back I had the misfortune of having someone who thought that they were going to have a bit of fun, with my Land Cruiser, only to be caught dumping water into the fuel tank. After calling Gold Eagle, the makers of Heet and Iso Heet ( for Diesel ), and

Re: [biofuel] water injection question

2004-08-17 Thread Greg Harbican
26 of the little bottles of Iso Heet. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Martin Klingensmith To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:49 Subject: Re: [biofuel] water injection question Greg Harbican wrote: Hi Greg, A mechanic charged you less

[biofuel] Water Heater Warning

2004-07-19 Thread bioveging
Good day; Having just finished installing the electricals on my reactor (water heater) this weekend I thought I would pass along a potential risk when converting these to 120V from their 240V original. I don't know about most but the one I got had a square flanged heating element and the 120V

Re: [biofuel] Water Heater Warning

2004-07-19 Thread Martin Klingensmith
bioveging wrote: Good day; Having just finished installing the electricals on my reactor (water heater) this weekend I thought I would pass along a potential risk when converting these to 120V from their 240V original. I don't know about most but the one I got had a square flanged

[biofuel] Water: Wakeup Call on the Food Front

2003-12-30 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.earth-policy.org/Updates/Update31_printable.htm December 16, 2003: Update 31: December 16, 2003-11 Copyright © 2003 Earth Policy Institute Wakeup Call on the Food Front Lester R. Brown While Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao and President Bush discussed Taiwan, currency rates and North

Re: [biofuel] water-ethanol-methanol mixture

2003-12-19 Thread bob allen
Howdy Ish, Ishwaria wrote: This has got nothing to do with biofuels. We use a mixture of water and 70% ethanol which is denatured with 5%Methanol to clean our filters. If the filter is soaked in this alcohol mixture and then dried using compressed air (couple of minutes) followed by normal

[biofuel] water-ethanol-methanol mixture

2003-12-18 Thread Ishwaria
This has got nothing to do with biofuels. We use a mixture of water and 70% ethanol which is denatured with 5%Methanol to clean our filters. If the filter is soaked in this alcohol mixture and then dried using compressed air (couple of minutes) followed by normal drying (hrs), which would be

Re: [biofuel] water-ethanol-methanol mixture

2003-12-18 Thread Dan Maker
Ishwaria said: This has got nothing to do with biofuels. We use a mixture of water and 70% ethanol which is denatured with 5%Methanol to clean our filters. If the filter is soaked in this alcohol mixture and then dried using compressed air (couple of minutes) followed by normal drying

[biofuel] Water from diesel exhaust?

2003-10-08 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/10/01/wow.tech.exhaust.water/ Clean the exhaust, drink the water? I wonder if the water from biodiesel or SVO is better? Edward Beggs Neoteric Biofuels http://www.biofuels.ca Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Rent DVDs

Re: [biofuel] Water from diesel exhaust?

2003-10-08 Thread Greg and April
: Neoteric Biofuels Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 23:47 Subject: [biofuel] Water from diesel exhaust? http://edition.cnn.com/2003/TECH/10/01/wow.tech.exhaust.water/ Clean the exhaust, drink the water? I wonder if the water

Re: [biofuel] Water from diesel exhaust?

2003-10-08 Thread Dan Maker
Greg and April said: I don't know, but did you catch this part? The system also works on petrol, paraffin, fuel oil and gas. What is left from burning the fossil fuel is also cold, therefore there is no heat pollution. I have to wonder were they think that heat went. I caught that

[biofuel] Water Radiolysis

2003-09-22 Thread Alex
Here something about generating hydrogen from water. Alex http://www.nuenergy.org/radiolysis.htm [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- ReplayTV: Control live television Special Sale: 50% off ReplayTV

Re: [biofuel] Water Radiolysis

2003-09-22 Thread Brent S
I will stick to using a battery charger to make hydrogen. I am not a fan of anything radioactive. Brent From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Water Radiolysis Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:21:14 -0400 Here something about

Re: [biofuel] Water Radiolysis

2003-09-22 Thread Alex
At some beaches radioactivity level may be very high... Are you a fan of sunbathing? Alex - Original Message - From: Brent S [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Water Radiolysis I will stick to using a battery

Re: [biofuel] Water Radiolysis

2003-09-22 Thread Alex
Exactly! Also some of the wastes are perfect betta emitters - almost ready batteries. But it is practically impossible to get them. Alex - Original Message - From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel

Re: [biofuel] Water Radiolysis

2003-09-22 Thread Ken Provost
On Monday, September 22, 2003, at 07:43 AM, Brent S wrote: I will stick to using a battery charger to make hydrogen. I am not a fan of anything radioactive. Could be an interesting way to take advantage of all those radioactive wastes. Alpha particles are pretty benign once they get

[biofuel] Water removal using CaCl2

2003-08-30 Thread lohnestd
George, CaCl2 removal is not a factor, since it is MUCH heavier than oil especially once it has absorbed from one to four molecules of water per molecule of CaCl2. It drops into the wash water layer almost immediately. I have attached a few pictures of the apparatus I'm using. I will be

[biofuel] Water Injection Biodiesel lube Oils

2003-07-14 Thread Grant Simpson
Hi Has any one tried fitting a water injection system to a Toyota diesel engine of any kind ? If so ,how did it perform . I currently run a 2001 Toyota Landcruiser Prado on a 80% / 20% mix of vegetable fossil diesel ,the engine runs quieter is smoother in gear changes (Auto Trans) ,

[biofuel] water issues coverage

2003-07-11 Thread murdoch
Someone sent me an article by Sandra Postel in the May issue of Natural History magazine. http://www.naturalhistory.com/naturalhistory/0503/0503_selections.html Other articles which reference her views: http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/national/article/0,1406,KNS_350_2100908,00.html

Re: [biofuel] Water, was Toothpaste as poison

2003-05-19 Thread robert luis rabello
Doug Foskey wrote:When you use reverse Osmosis, the water is de-mineralised. This tends to strip trace elements from the body, which is detrimental to health. How do you protect against that? regards Doug Eating dirt??? Personally, I eat a LOT of fruit and vegetables--especially

RE: [biofuel] Water injection

2003-03-30 Thread Jerry
, 2003 11:33 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Water injection water_jerry wrote: I have been looking for any and all info about water injection for gas engines. I used water injection for high compression gasoline and propane engines for many years

RE: [biofuel] Water injection

2003-03-30 Thread Keith Addison
, March 18, 2003 11:33 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Water injection water_jerry wrote: I have been looking for any and all info about water injection for gas engines. I used water injection for high compression gasoline and propane engines for many

[biofuel] Water injection

2003-03-18 Thread water_jerry
I have been looking for any and all info about water injection for gas engines. So far I have found the following articales, but I need more of the over all picture..(During the mid-70's, physicist Don Novak traveled all over the U.S. lecturing and teaching in his seminars how to achieve 100

RE: [biofuel] Water injection

2003-03-18 Thread harley3
- From: water_jerry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 8:26 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Water injection I have been looking for any and all info about water injection for gas engines. So far I have found the following articales, but I need more

Re: [biofuel] Water injection

2003-03-18 Thread Steve Spence
Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: harley3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 2:40 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Water injection Dear Jerry: The information

Re: [biofuel] Water injection

2003-03-18 Thread robert luis rabello
water_jerry wrote: I have been looking for any and all info about water injection for gas engines. I used water injection for high compression gasoline and propane engines for many years. The unit I owned was an Edelbrock VariJection model that relied on a vacuum signal and engine rpm

RE: [biofuel] Water cutting

2003-02-07 Thread kirk
: [biofuel] Water cutting it is also used to cut bread , and no it does not make it soggy. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip PS: Water cutting is not considered an obscure technology as it is widely used in precision cutting of hard materials. A polymer is added to the water

[biofuel] Water cutting

2003-02-06 Thread JOSEPH . MARTELLE
snip PS: Water cutting is not considered an obscure technology as it is widely used in precision cutting of hard materials. A polymer is added to the water and sometimes an abrasive. The cutting tip is a saphire with a small hole in it- and it is NOISY!! Blessings, Joe :-).

Re: [biofuel] Water cutting

2003-02-06 Thread Robby Davenport
it is also used to cut bread , and no it does not make it soggy. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip PS: Water cutting is not considered an obscure technology as it is widely used in precision cutting of hard materials. A polymer is added to the water and sometimes

Re: [biofuel] Water cutting

2003-02-06 Thread studio53
| 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Robby Davenport [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Water cutting it is also used to cut bread , and no it does

[biofuel] Water - was RE: industrial livestock husbandry

2002-12-27 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Kirk How do they manage to sell it in the US? Shouldn't be able to sell impure water. Don't drink bottled water. http://tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/5875 The Corporate Theft Of The World's Water http://tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/5880 The Battle To Bottle

RE: [biofuel] Water - was RE: industrial livestock husbandry

2002-12-27 Thread kirk
PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Water - was RE: industrial livestock husbandry Hi Kirk How do they manage to sell it in the US? Shouldn't be able to sell impure water. Don't drink bottled water. http://tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/5875 The Corporate Theft Of The World's Water

[biofuel] water pipe biz

2002-08-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[biofuel] Water, Huntington Beach

2002-08-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[biofuel] water in the reaction

2002-06-12 Thread William Clark
I just had a conversation with a biodiesel researcher who says that using the Foolproof method does not work in larger quantities than 5 gal. Claims that water will halt the reaction at a couple of points. I neglected to ask if properly dryed WVO has the same problems. Does anyone have

Re: [biofuel] water in the reaction

2002-06-12 Thread Appal Energy
to hear if he or she has done any esterification research outside the realm of STP. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: William Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:01 PM Subject: [biofuel] water in the reaction I just had

Re: [biofuel] water in the reaction

2002-06-12 Thread William Clark
- From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] water in the reaction Bill, I would think that you should ask your biodiesel researcher for his or her data. I'd be rather interested in hearing how the ratio of water

Re: [biofuel] water in the reaction

2002-06-12 Thread Keith Addison
I just had a conversation with a biodiesel researcher who says that using the Foolproof method does not work in larger quantities than 5 gal. Claims that water will halt the reaction at a couple of points. I neglected to ask if properly dryed WVO has the same problems. Does anyone have

Re: [biofuel] water in the reaction

2002-06-12 Thread Appal Energy
in hand with the other. Then again, there are always at least three sides to every coin. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: William Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] water in the reaction Todd- I think

Re: ASTM Flash point was Re: [biofuel] water (Keith)

2002-06-10 Thread Christian
Do you know the year in which ASTM D5761 was issued? Thx Chistian - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: ASTM Flash point was Re: [biofuel] water (Keith) Flash Point: Above 118¼C (ASTM PS121

Re: ASTM Flash point was Re: [biofuel] water (Keith)

2002-06-10 Thread Appal Energy
D-6751 was published in April, 2002. - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:46 PM Subject: Re: ASTM Flash point was Re: [biofuel] water (Keith) Do you know the year in which ASTM D5761 was issued? Thx Chistian

Re: [biofuel] water

2002-06-09 Thread Jon
Will water in the fuel damage the engine? As far as a diesel motor goes...It will bugger up the pump if it gets that far.. most of it will get trapped in the filter. Meanwhile quite a lot of people are trying to figure ways of getting MORE water into the fuel. See this, for instance:

Re: [biofuel] water

2002-06-09 Thread Keith Addison
Will water in the fuel damage the engine? As far as a diesel motor goes...It will bugger up the pump if it gets that far.. most of it will get trapped in the filter. Meanwhile quite a lot of people are trying to figure ways of getting MORE water into the fuel. See this, for instance:

Re: [biofuel] water (Keith)

2002-06-09 Thread Christian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] water Hi Christian Hi Keith, I«m answering this letter separate from Ken«s answer. Regarding I'm really not sure at this stage whether that's good advice or not though., my intention

ASTM Flash point was Re: [biofuel] water (Keith)

2002-06-09 Thread Appal Energy
Flash Point: Above 118¼C (ASTM PS121 specifies higher than 100¼C, so I didn«t go much further) The new ASTM D-6751 standard specifies 130 deg C, I don't know why. Germany and Czech specify 110, all others 100. Maybe it's all just politics, the rapeseed vs soy game. Christian and Keith, As

Re: ASTM Flash point was Re: [biofuel] water (Keith)

2002-06-09 Thread Christian
] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 1:54 PM Subject: ASTM Flash point was Re: [biofuel] water (Keith) Flash Point: Above 118¼C (ASTM PS121 specifies higher than 100¼C, so I didn«t go much further) The new ASTM D-6751 standard specifies 130 deg C, I don't know why

Re: ASTM Flash point was Re: [biofuel] water (Keith)

2002-06-09 Thread Appal Energy
Subject: Re: ASTM Flash point was Re: [biofuel] water (Keith) Todd, I«ve just asked Keith, but I just as well might ask you. Could you send me the BD specs as per ASTM D6751? I«m still working with PS121 (which I have), but it seems some values have been revised. Thanks, Christian - Original

Re: [biofuel] water

2002-06-09 Thread Neil and Adele Craven
- Original Message - From: Keith Addison To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] water Will water in the fuel damage the engine? As far as a diesel motor goes...It will bugger up the pump if it gets that far.. most

Re: [biofuel] water

2002-06-09 Thread Jon
They don't appear to think it will bugger up the pump. Ask any proffessional diesel mechanic what the top 2 things that cause injector pump damage are... they will respond with water and dirt. Why do you think the fuel filters are designed to collect water? If you dont take their word for it..

Re: [biofuel] water

2002-06-09 Thread Keith Addison
Neil wrote: - Original Message - From: Keith Addison To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] water Will water in the fuel damage the engine? As far as a diesel motor goes...It will bugger up the pump if it gets

Re: [biofuel] water

2002-06-08 Thread Ken
Christian, Is there a way to calculate how much catalyst would be needed for how much a reaction time. The reason for washing is to get rid of the catalyst in the newly reacted BD and lower the ph right? so if we can use lesser catalyst then washing might not be necessary. As for the excess

Re: [biofuel] water

2002-06-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Christian Well, it's interesting. Do those maximums for water content in the standards make any sense? Will water in the fuel damage the engine? First, this is what Camillo Holecek said about it recently: The Austrian Standard ONORM C 1191 said only: No water should settle out (i.e. about

Re: [biofuel] water

2002-06-08 Thread Christian
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] water Christian, Is there a way to calculate how much catalyst would be needed for how much a reaction time. The reason for washing is to get rid of the catalyst in the newly reacted BD and lower the ph right? so if we can

Re: [biofuel] water

2002-06-08 Thread Christian
: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] water Hi Christian Well, it's interesting. Do those maximums for water content in the standards make any sense? Will water in the fuel damage the engine? First

[biofuel] water

2002-06-07 Thread Christian
Hi all. I ran some lab tests on my BD (from M. Pelly«s recipe), including IR spectrometry, Flash point, Pour point, Cloud point, Density, Viscosity, Residual Carbon and free water sediment. My findings showed quite a good BD, except for the water. ASTM requires 0,05 % vol max of water. I

[biofuel] Water instead of heptane?

2001-12-19 Thread Keith Addison
http://ens-news.com/ens/dec2001/2001L-12-18-09.html Environment News Service: AmeriScan: December 18, 2001 Water Could Be Safe, Inexpensive Solvent FAYETTEVILLE, Arkansas, December 18, 2001 (ENS) - Replacing solvents in food and pharmaceutical processing with plain water could reduce costs and

Re: [biofuel] Water instead of heptane?

2001-12-19 Thread Dana Linscott
Has anyone tried this from the group. Any thoughts? I am still trying to develop ainexpensive and simple seed extruder that can produce meaningful amounts of SVO and feedcake. Being able to use hot H20 would be great! Does anyone have the capability of giving this a quick and dirty test?

Re: [biofuel] water from the bubble washing of

2001-11-28 Thread Keith Addison
://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/messages Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: 27 November 2001 06:43 Subject: RE: [biofuel] water from the bubble

RE: [biofuel] water from the bubble washing of

2001-11-27 Thread M Rolan
- De: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: martes, 27 de noviembre de 2001 7:44 Para: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Asunto: RE: [biofuel] water from the bubble washing of I was treating my waste glycerin by leaving it out in the sun for a few weeks, and later putting a bubbler

Re: [biofuel] water from the bubble washing of

2001-11-27 Thread Ken Basterfield
Keith, What proportion of the methanol can you expect to recover using distillation? Ken - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: 27 November 2001 06:43 Subject: RE: [biofuel] water from the bubble washing of I was treating my waste

RE: [biofuel] water from the bubble washing of

2001-11-27 Thread milliontc
To:'biofuel@yahoogroups.com' biofuel@yahoogroups.com From: M Rolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:47:10 +0100 Reply-to: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] water from the bubble washing of what can I do with the bubble washing

RE: [biofuel] water from the bubble washing of

2001-11-26 Thread Anton Berteuax
I was treating my waste glycerin by leaving it out in the sun for a few weeks, and later putting a bubbler in it to evaporate the methanol. I am building a vacuum distiller that I can use to recover the methanol and reuse it. I believe that all the other stuff (lye, glycerin,leftover fry bits )

RE: [biofuel] water from the bubble washing of

2001-11-26 Thread Keith Addison
I was treating my waste glycerin by leaving it out in the sun for a few weeks, and later putting a bubbler in it to evaporate the methanol. I am building a vacuum distiller that I can use to recover the methanol and reuse it. I believe that all the other stuff (lye, glycerin,leftover fry bits )

[biofuel] water from bubble washing of biodiesel

2001-11-22 Thread Manolo Rolan
anyone has a method to treat the water from the bubble washing of biodiesel. I don't want to throw away poisonous water with metanol and other substances trough the water-drainage of my toilett. thanks Manolo Rol‡n Valencia, Spain Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

RE: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-22 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Mike Keith, Nice to hear that you're from around the corner. I live in Hout Bay and know your travel route well. Just about one of the most breath-taking ways of driving to work. It's spectacular! Especially on a big bike. Almost a good enough reason to have a job (but not quite!). Via

Re: [biofuel] water + alky / dino-svo + alky / auto tranny + svo / biod + svo

2001-05-20 Thread Keith Addison
Dick Carlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anybody ever try matheson's recommended 50/50 alky/water misting into the induction of a diesel ? matheson's mix might result in cleaner innards, and prevent coking when using svo. will have to try a pressure driven fogger with a 50/50 a/w mix and see

RE: Jackasses was Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-19 Thread kirk
LOL Well said Todd Another conservative old fart Kirk -Original Message- From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 12:33 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jackasses was Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance - Original

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