Re: [biofuels-biz] Help!

2002-09-03 Thread Rajendra Sharma
Dear Mr Steven Helen Hobbs please see below: http://home.earthlink.net/~galiagante/house-biofuel.html III. 3. b. Step Two: Vegetable Oil and Sodium Methoxide Vegetable oil is primarily made of triglycerine with small amounts of assorted other compounds including trace elements, fatty acids

Re: [biofuels-biz] Indian and Asian BD activities

2002-09-03 Thread Rajendra Sharma
Thnaks for your comment on chian length. I had taken the comment from a report mentioned below: http://home.earthlink.net/~galiagante/house-biofuel.html which reportsas follows: III. 3. b. Step Two: Vegetable Oil and Sodium Methoxide Vegetable oil is primarily made of triglycerine with

Re: [biofuels-biz] some clarification?

2002-09-03 Thread Appal Energy
Dear Mr. or Ms. Goat, The contents of the middle layer to which you refer are largely dependant upon the degree of reaction completion, the reaction type (acid/base or base) and the processing steps used (principally in an acid/base). The belief that this layer is primarily soap is largely in

Re: [biofuels-biz] some clarification?

2002-09-03 Thread Michael Allen
Dear Paddy, It's great to get some input from a knowledgable person such as Michael Allen Thanks for the ego massage Paddy but it's even greater to have some input from someone with the knowledge AND EXPERIENCE that Todd has! I think that this demonstrates the real value of the biofuels-biz

AW: [biofuels-biz] Indian and Asian BD activities

2002-09-03 Thread Richard Gronald
Hi folks, Does anyone now the pattern of fatty acids of the poonga-oil-tree (or pongamia pinetta)? Could be an interesting feedstock in asia! Richard Gronald Marketing DonauWind GmbH Co KG Freudenauer Hafenstra§e 8-10 1020 Wien +43 664 52 68 102 www.donauwind.at www.energea.at

Re: AW: [biofuels-biz] Indian and Asian BD activities

2002-09-03 Thread Keith Addison
Hi folks, Does anyone now the pattern of fatty acids of the poonga-oil-tree (or pongamia pinetta)? Could be an interesting feedstock in asia! Richard Gronald Marketing DonauWind GmbH Co KG Freudenauer Hafenstra§e 8-10 1020 Wien +43 664 52 68 102 www.donauwind.at www.energea.at Here you

[biofuels-biz] some clarification

2002-09-03 Thread goat industries
Todd, would you consider that this middle layer that you describe as an 'emulsification' may be an emulsification of palmitic/stearic methyl ester that has precipitated out of solution? ... Paddy Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now

[biofuels-biz] Phillips 76 California Fuel: Non-MTBE means methanol Use or not?

2002-09-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Question for the two groups: Is Phillips using ANY ethanol or are they pulling some fast one here? The word ethanol is not used in the news release and it seems clear they are arguing *against* its mandated use. It also seems clear that they are saying their non-MTBE gas *may* (*or may

[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] Phillips 76 California Fuel: Non-MTBE means ethanol Use or not?

2002-09-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oops I meant ethanol not methanol use in the subject heading. On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 07:56:43 -0700, you wrote: Question for the two groups: Is Phillips using ANY ethanol or are they pulling some fast one here? The word ethanol is not used in the news release and it seems clear they are

[biofuels-biz] compost plant fight

2002-09-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [biofuels-biz] some clarification

2002-09-03 Thread Appal Energy
No. I would describe the emulsification at the interface layer as an emulsification that has more to do with the molecular polarity between phases than any particular constituent ester. The exact same emulsification occurs whether or not palmitic or stearic acids are present in the parent stock.

[biofuels-biz] AFDC Monthly Updates

2002-09-03 Thread Wendy Dafoe
For correspondence, your ID number is: 108386 To register for the monthly update, click on the following link: http://www.afdc.doe.gov/cgi-bin/mw/monthly_update.cgi?108386 Hello! As someone who has expressed interest in alternative fuels in the past, you are invited to be an ongoing

Re: [biofuel] Re: Veg oils as chainsaw bar oil

2002-09-03 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
The additive package is what provides the necessary characteristics the natural oil does not possess. In the case of the additives we have available, even the additive package comes form natural sources. I have not heard of any problems, or a need for degumming cold pressed oil. Winter and

[biofuel] Re: Making it ourselves Was: Polyvinyl Alcohol (PVA) Membranes

2002-09-03 Thread womplex_oo1
That's not really what I meant. I meant that if you can manufacture a product and all its components in-house you are much more likely to have a lower price than competitors that out-source their components. In-house doesn't mean within the borders of this country or that country, in simply

[biofuel] Canada to ratify Kyoto before year end

2002-09-03 Thread womplex_oo1
The goal was to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 6 percent from 1990 levels by 2008-2010. Bioethanol is a zero net producer of greenhouse gases such that converting automotive fuels to E10 (10% ethanol, 90% gasoline) would achieve the goals of Kyoto. And according to the FAQ section of the

Re: [biofuel] Canada to ratify Kyoto before year end

2002-09-03 Thread Hakan Falk
Great, The reality is also that Canada is the largest per capita energy user in the world. This means, that it does not take much energy saving to achieve the Kyoto requirements either. If we should belive the experts, we will start to get energy crunches around 2008-2010. This will

RE: Veg oils as chainsaw bar oil was Re: [biofuel] Thanks Kieth

2002-09-03 Thread norris hobson (SRI)
I thought all food grade svo had been degummed. Could you give more info about any gums left and how to remove them etc. Norris -Original Message- From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 September 2002 02:13 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Veg oils as chainsaw bar

Re: [biofuel] Re: Making it ourselves Was: Polyvinyl Alcohol (PVA) Membranes

2002-09-03 Thread Grahams
At 05:59 AM 9/3/2002 +, you wrote: That's not really what I meant. I meant that if you can manufacture a product and all its components in-house you are much more likely to have a lower price than competitors that out-source their components. In-house doesn't mean within the borders of this

Re: Veg oils as chainsaw bar oil was Re: [biofuel] Thanks Kieth

2002-09-03 Thread Appal Energy
Lecithin is usually removed via centrifuge. It has been our experience working with local restaurants and restaurant supply companies that the sales reps do not know which products in their line of oils and hydrogenated shortenings are the degummed versions and which are not. In virtually every

[biofuel] Planet Ark : Kyoto climate goals are not enough, Blair says

2002-09-03 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
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[biofuel] McDonald to use healthier oil

2002-09-03 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
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[biofuel] Re: Making methanol and lye

2002-09-03 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Lori, nice to hear from you again, it's been a long time. See: http://cator.hsc.edu/~kmd/caveman/projects/chloralkali/index.html This looks like the one, great. He's quite droll about it too. Scroll down to Instructions and click on the picture, there's a step-by-step in a java popup

Re: [biofuel] Re: Making methanol and lye -

2002-09-03 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Paul Um, yes. Duh! I don't mind admitting it all looks like fly-shit to me. Well, not quite, I can follow it up to a point but easily get lost. Should've guessed the arrows though. Wouldn't worry too much about it Keith its all in house stuff. Each discipline has its own jargon, show

[biofuel] Phillips 76 California Fuel: Non-MTBE means methanol Use or not?

2002-09-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Question for the two groups: Is Phillips using ANY ethanol or are they pulling some fast one here? The word ethanol is not used in the news release and it seems clear they are arguing *against* its mandated use. It also seems clear that they are saying their non-MTBE gas *may* (*or may

Re: [biofuel] Phillips 76 California Fuel: Non-MTBE means ethanol Use or not?

2002-09-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oops I meant ethanol not methanol use in the subject heading. On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 07:56:43 -0700, you wrote: Question for the two groups: Is Phillips using ANY ethanol or are they pulling some fast one here? The word ethanol is not used in the news release and it seems clear they are

Re: [biofuel] Re: Veg oils as chainsaw bar oil

2002-09-03 Thread Hakan Falk
Not only a good article, a very good article and I hope that all interested in the issue reads it. Thank you for the link. The problems I have with cleaning, occurs when I use sunflower or rape seed oil, bought in the food shop. It works great anyway and professionals will not experience this,

Re: [biofuel] Re: Veg oils as chainsaw bar oil

2002-09-03 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc.
Yes, those numbers were for Canada. Edward Beggs, BES, MSc Neoteric Biofuels Inc. Located in the Okanagan Valley, British Columbia, Canada 1-250-768-3169 Fax: 1-250-768-3118 Toll-Free (Canada/USA): 1-866-768-3169 http://www.biofuels.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for Canada?) corresponds to a

[biofuel] compost plant fight

2002-09-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [biofuel] Planet Ark : Kyoto climate goals are not enough, Blair says

2002-09-03 Thread Hakan Falk
Read it, it is amusing and frightening, Blair said: In truth Kyoto is not radical enough, he said. Yet it is at present the most that is do-able and even then the largest nation, the United States, stands outside it. (a simple economic world recession will cause everybody to comply with

[biofuel] Re: LAND CRUISER, was someone looking

2002-09-03 Thread Rob MacMorran
If this is the one in Crete, IL (pretty sure it is) I looked at it. I didn't drive it because I was looking for one with a straighter body. Actually I was probably too picky. The body has obvious signs of bondo in a couple places and some dense rust bubbles under paint in several places. Other

RE: [biofuel] Cellulose - to - Sugar Preprocessing

2002-09-03 Thread Juan Boveda
Woopex_oo1 wrote: Two questions: 1. How do you culture the enzyme-producing fungus without using up too much of the cellulose feedstock that is supposed to make ethanol? Answer: In general is better to buy a well known fungus from American Type Culture Collection or from and industrial

[biofuel] Re: Cellulose - to - Sugar Preprocessing

2002-09-03 Thread womplex_oo1
Wow! Thanks for the tips. The earth's surface is covered in 70 percent water by area. I am interested in aquaculture to grow kelp forests that could supply large quantities of cellulose. Kelp can be grown on floating rafts in the middle of the ocean - screens suspended 15-40 meters below

[biofuel] back frm the dead

2002-09-03 Thread Christian
Hi all. I«ve been away for quite some time, mostly preparing the presentation of my thesis (on biodiesel production). Now I«ve passed that and I«m oficcialy an Environmental Engineer (actually, the paperwork takes about 6 months). Well, the news is I«ve updated my webpage and uploaded many

RE: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose - to - Sugar Preprocessing

2002-09-03 Thread kirk
Maybe you could harvest in the Sargasso Sea? Kirk -Original Message- From: womplex_oo1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 3:31 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose - to - Sugar Preprocessing Wow! Thanks for the tips. The earth's

Re: [biofuel] McDonald to use healthier oil

2002-09-03 Thread Steve Spence
not cold pressed olive oil :-( Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards: http://www.green-trust.org Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

[biofuel] AFDC Monthly Updates

2002-09-03 Thread Wendy Dafoe
For correspondence, your ID number is: 108386 To register for the monthly update, click on the following link: http://www.afdc.doe.gov/cgi-bin/mw/monthly_update.cgi?108386 Hello! As someone who has expressed interest in alternative fuels in the past, you are invited to be an ongoing

Re: [biofuel] peanut oil

2002-09-03 Thread Ken Provost
Keith Young writes: Better be checking out the economics of growing peanuts before you jump in. I live in Va., and the support price has been lowered from $600.00 a ton, to $350.00. I've been told that even at their best yields they would lose $50.00ton at that price. Sounds like you know

[biofuel] Re: Cellulose - to - Sugar Preprocessing

2002-09-03 Thread Keith Addison
womplex_oo1 wrote: Wow! Thanks for the tips. ... and to change the subject completely... The earth's surface is covered in 70 percent water by area. I am interested in aquaculture to grow kelp forests that could supply large quantities of cellulose. Kelp can be grown on floating rafts in

[biofuel] Diesel fuel pumps.

2002-09-03 Thread jokefalcon
Howdy all, Could someone please tell me what pressures diesel fuel pumps operate at? And, are they all mechanical or are some run by their own electric motor? Phillip GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM

[biofuel] Re: peanut oil

2002-09-03 Thread Ken Provost
Keith Young writes: Better be checking out the economics of growing peanuts before you jump in. I live in Va., and the support price has been lowered from $600.00 a ton, to $350.00. I've been told that even at their best yields they would lose $50.00ton at that price. Sounds like you know

Re: [biofuel] peanut oil

2002-09-03 Thread Christopher Witmer
I suppose if you had to single out one cause, your best bet would be to blame FDR and his legacy for this perverse state of affairs. The whole concept of farm subsidies has long since become an institution so ingrained in the modern mentality that I don't think you would need the fingers of