Re: [Biofuel] pointless bashing.. was robin's solution

2005-06-06 Thread robert luis rabello
lisa simpson wrote: The point of posting the robin williams fluff piece was not to extoll it's questionable 'validity' [notice I never said anything to support it] but rather to illustrate the shallow pointlessness of the incessant 'Merican bashing which seems to characterize 'political

Re: [Biofuel] debunking popular myths... was Robin's solution

2005-06-06 Thread Keith Addison
Lisa --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Lisa Lets avoid the personal attacks and stick to a discussion of the facts. ls Todd discussed the facts and you're trying to squirm out from under. Now stop it and give him an honest response. The nationmaster link states that 10

Re: [Biofuel] pointless bashing.. was robin's solution

2005-06-06 Thread Keith Addison
Lisa The point of posting the robin williams fluff piece was not to extoll it's questionable 'validity' [notice I never said anything to support it] but rather to illustrate the shallow pointlessness of the incessant 'Merican bashing which seems to characterize 'political correctness' among the

Re: [Biofuel] How would any of you answer this one?

2005-06-06 Thread Jan Warnqvist
More answers: Even as we speak the green house effect will cause seriuos climate changes. It does not matter whether the carbon dioxide is generated from fossile oil, fossile gas or coal. As long as we maintain our dependence on fossile energy this development will proceed. Concerning the

RE: [Biofuel] debunking popular myths... was Robin's solution

2005-06-06 Thread Chris Lloyd
Keep in mind that acceptable risk is not a matter of how many in one million contract a malady, I do not know if it is the same in the US or OZ but we have an epidemic of thyroid problems in the UK. In the 50/60s young people with thyroid disease was extremely rare now I find my local chemist

Re: [Biofuel] [Fwd: The Mouse Who Kills Sharks ...]

2005-06-06 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings Keith, Unfortunately, many North Americans will buy the line: Its feeble defence is they are doing it in deference to Chinese culture ... The Iron Chef, cooking show made such things popular and have leant their credence to such ideas. Bright Blessings, Kim At 05:53 AM

Re: [Biofuel] media hype...was debunking popular myths

2005-06-06 Thread Appal Energy
Ms. Simpson, To summarize: my argument is against the hype, not the relative toxicity of plutonium. If your argument was against hype as you claim, you'd take notice of the disproportional hype relative to oral ingestion and the charades of the likes of Cohen and you wouldn't have leant to

Re: [Biofuel] pointless bashing.. was robin's solution

2005-06-06 Thread Appal Energy
Ms. Simpson, These are your original words that you coupled with the fake Robin Williams text: Lisa Simpson wrote: You gotta love Robin Williams... Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan .. what we need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this

Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine as fuel

2005-06-06 Thread Quimica Nova SA
Hello Balaji, Hello Bill, in spite of having a large supply of natural gas in Argentina, and cheap, there are still many places where thereare no distribution lines. In our case at the North West of the country there is a large availability of biomass, which we would like to consider for

Re: [Biofuel] pointless bashing.. was robin's solution

2005-06-06 Thread Michael Redler
I could give you the benefit of the doubt, that it was meant sarcastically. It's the rhetoric that followed that has my attention. MikeAppal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ms. Simpson,These are your original words that you coupled with the fake Robin Williams text:Lisa Simpson wrote: You gotta

[Biofuel] Article of Intrest to Group - New Green Diesel?

2005-06-06 Thread Matt Erickson
Check out this interesting article on a New Green Diesel process announced Saturday by the University of Wisconsin. Not too many details but very intriguing - I thought at least. http://www.physorg.com/news4392.html -Matt ___ Biofuel mailing list

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread Michael Redler
That'swhat's so great about these forums.Responsesoften includepreviouscontributions, so that there is little ambiguity about context and little opportunity formisrepresentation. It's all here Terry -- especially theremarks aboutyour hope that thosedrug dealers and thieves becomeconvinced to

Re: [Biofuel] Bug Power

2005-06-06 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Robert Keith Addison wrote: Could the resulting, simpler sugars also be worked on by yeast to produce fuel ethanol? Yes. That was, in fact, the intent of the research. I believe I may have left out a step, as enzymatic treatment appears necessary. (I shouldn't be quoting without

[Biofuel] Wash Water to Biodiesel Ratio?

2005-06-06 Thread Ken Provost
A question for all you well-washed biodiesel homebrewers... Regardless of your particular washing methods, when all is said and done, how much total fresh water have you used for washing, per liter of fully washed biodiesel? FWIW, my ratio is about 1.3 water:biodiesel. Is that high, low,

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread Greg Harbican
Todd, Interesting. It does not seam to be anymore than the white washing that was done several years ago, just more along the lines of a few recruiters, being more extreme. OTOH, I didn't hear of any reciting problems while I was in the service. I was a bit of a problem for my recruiter, having

Re: [Biofuel] Wash Water to Biodiesel Ratio?

2005-06-06 Thread des
Ken Provost wrote: A question for all you well-washed biodiesel homebrewers... Regardless of your particular washing methods, when all is said and done, how much total fresh water have you used for washing, per liter of fully washed biodiesel? FWIW, my ratio is about 1.3 water:biodiesel. Is

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread Greg Harbican
No, up till 9/11 most people entered the military for one of two reasons. The first and most popular reason is Education. They think that it will be an easy way the get an education, without having to work hard to get a scholarship or the need for a loan. The second reason, is that they

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread Greg Harbican
It's true, if you have the qualification for it and get a MOS guarantee. It's simple you get the guarantee and you read the fine print, before you sign on the dotted line. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Hans Reuchlin To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent:

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread Greg Harbican
Check out the UCMJ ( Uniform Code of Military Justice ). Then follow that up with Geneva Convention and Hague Convention, and that will give you a good idea of what illegal is to the military. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Michael Redler To:

Re: [Biofuel] Wash Water to Biodiesel Ratio?

2005-06-06 Thread Keith Addison
A question for all you well-washed biodiesel homebrewers... Regardless of your particular washing methods, when all is said and done, how much total fresh water have you used for washing, per liter of fully washed biodiesel? FWIW, my ratio is about 1.3 water:biodiesel. Is that high, low,

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread Appal Energy
Greg, *The military is just like any other company trying to get you to join, in that it is going to push the fun exciting stuff, while under emphasizing the bad. The military does far more than just push the fun exciting stuff... to net recruits. I guess you didn't read the references

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread Michael Redler
"...when they are told that they can not get out when the going gets rough, they cry"Not fair!" How about... ...when they are told that they can not get out when the president: 1.) abuses the war powers act 2.) provokes attacksto manufacture an excuse for war months before any security council

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread Keith Addison
Check out the UCMJ ( Uniform Code of Military Justice ). Then follow that up with Geneva Convention and Hague Convention, and that will give you a good idea of what illegal is to the military. Greg H. The US military honours the Geneva Convention? When they feel like it maybe...

Re: [Biofuel] -=additives=-

2005-06-06 Thread Mel Purdy
it's a liquid you add to boiler fuel to make it more efficient and burn cleaner. I'm trying to find a more detailed chemical description of it, but for now, if anybody out there is using it, or uses it on anything else, it would be nice to start a conversation On 6/3/05, ron [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread Larry Foran
Greg, Well said! Larry On 6/6/05, Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, up till 9/11 most people entered the military for one of two reasons. The first and most popular reason is Education. They think that it will be an easy way the get an education, without having to work

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread Michael Redler
Thanks Greg. That's kinda what I was getting at. MikeGreg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out the UCMJ ( Uniform Code of Military Justice ). Then follow that up with Geneva Convention and Hague Convention, and that will give you a good idea of what illegal is to the military. Greg

Re: [Biofuel] Wash Water to Biodiesel Ratio?

2005-06-06 Thread Ken Provost
On Jun 6, 2005, at 9:24 AM, Keith Addison wrote: Same with us Ken, about 1:3 water:biodiesel. Three washes, with 1/3rd water v/v biodiesel, and the washwater reused in the next batch of biodiesel, so each batch of washwater is used three times. I realized after sending the post that my

Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine as fuel

2005-06-06 Thread Balaji
Hello Marcelino, - Original Message - From: Quimica Nova SA To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Glycerine as fuel Hello Balaji, Hello Bill, in spite of having a large supply of natural gas in

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread capt3d
sorry terry, but no. you are not addressing my observations in good faith. As you imply,there are those who would make it in or out. this is your one comment which is relatively faithful to my meaning. only, it seeks to downplay the fact that *most* who enlist make it through the military,

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread capt3d
no, greg, the military is not just any other company. although it is sort of like some companies, except that those mercenaries are *extremely* well compensated and, at least in practice, pretty much outside the law, military or civil. the armed forces are an organ of the government charged

Re: [Biofuel] Bug Power

2005-06-06 Thread robert luis rabello
Keith Addison wrote: Thankyou. Interesting. It uses a lot of ammonia. Do you get it back for re-use? Yes. Once the ball valve opens, the vaporized ammonia flashes into another container where it is condensed for re-use. It doesn't say anything about pressure, only heat. That's

[Biofuel] Rapeseed Biodiesel

2005-06-06 Thread Purbo J. Wignjosajono
Dear All, I read the owner's manual of my car whose engine is a Direct Injection Intercooled Turbo Diesel and found out that biodiesel fuel made of rapeseed is not allowed to be used. Does anybody knows the reason? Regards, Purbo J. W. ___

RE: [Biofuel] Bug Power

2005-06-06 Thread brewmaster
The best way to reduce pressures in the reboilers and degasser is to use sulfuric acid. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of robert luis rabello Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:59 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Bug

Re: [Biofuel] Bug Power

2005-06-06 Thread des
robert luis rabello wrote: Keith Addison wrote: snip There was an ammonia based refrigeration unit powered by an off axis solar tracker in Home Power magazine many years ago. It produced pressure in excess of 100 psi (I think. . . Oh, where ARE those brain cells???) during its

Re: [Biofuel] Bug Power

2005-06-06 Thread robert luis rabello
des wrote: I've found that page in the past, and saved a pdf file of it. Uploaded it to: http://databrook.com/users/dcs3400/solarice.pdf I believe it is what you are referring to. Yes, that's the ammonia absorption ice making unit. Thanks! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice

[Biofuel] Reprocessing the odds and ends

2005-06-06 Thread Richard Keith
Hi All, I'm new to the group and have really enjoyed reading the postings. I have been taking everything that had a little biodiesel in it and pouring it into a 55 gallon drum. All those little odds and ends of biodiesel and water/soap and mini batches are starting to add up. I have roughly

Re: [Biofuel] New List

2005-06-06 Thread Ron
I could use some design photos and diagrams. I am trying to set up a fuel plant that will make 1000 gal per day from saw dust. How about the grant? How does that work? Any input much needed. Thanks, ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ron, I built a 10 inch stripper column in 1990 I then moved a

Re: [Biofuel] Bug Power

2005-06-06 Thread Keith Addison
Keith Addison wrote: Thankyou. Interesting. It uses a lot of ammonia. Do you get it back for re-use? Yes. Once the ball valve opens, the vaporized ammonia flashes into another container where it is condensed for re-use. Does that mean you could just pee in it? LOL! Well, at least it's a

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Chris sorry terry, but no. you are not addressing my observations in good faith. As you imply,there are those who would make it in or out. this is your one comment which is relatively faithful to my meaning. only, it seeks to downplay the fact that *most* who enlist make it through

Re: [Biofuel] Bug Power

2005-06-06 Thread robert luis rabello
Keith Addison wrote: Does that mean you could just pee in it? LOL! Perhaps we could develop a urine distillation unit to remove nitrogen and make our own NH3 with the help of a small scale electrolyzer. . . The barn litter I use for my garden off gases a LOT of ammonia when it's fresh.

Re: [Biofuel] New York : DA Drops The Charges Against Carol Lang

2005-06-06 Thread capt3d
greetings, keith. you were right there with the appropriate citations to the subject at hand. it's beginning to look like that is as per usual. i don't know how you do it. In a message dated 6/6/05 10:31:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The share of the nation's income earned by those in