On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:09:44 +0200, Garry Haywood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Richard,
I'm sure there are many of in this situation!
Our App is a combined HTML/SVG data UI solution for govt depts are
who are all IE users
They will not be going to any other browsers any time soon
Pity
but had to get it off my chest.
Richard
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Hi all,
I'm just in the process
.
Richard
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Hi all,
I'm just in the process of developing
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Hi Pat,
The organisation that I am currently doing work for has asked me to
bring to the attention of Adobe
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Tell me about it, a complete nightmare.
Our apps solely work on SVG with some large companies and we are
rewriting
our apps to work on IE and all the Native SVG browsers coming out.
The
headache for me is these large
Hi all,
I'm just in the process of developing an SVG application using AJAX
and PHP for a client. The idea of Adobe backing out of the Adobe SVG
field is causing some concern and to be honest I'd like to know what
real options are available out there otherwise I'll be tempted to move
over to
Hi Pat,
The organisation that I am currently doing work for has asked me to
bring to the attention of Adobe their interest in SVG with a view to
seeking (perhaps off-line) information on Adobe's roadmap for SVG
support. This large organisation is currently running five business
systems that
an idea but would welcome your comments on
the above as you have some experience in this area.
Many thanks
Richard
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Hi, Richard-
My experience with Dojo is not all that comprehensive, and like you, I'm
just starting to look into Dojo2D (I'd exchanged emails with Gavin
Doughtie, but only on a preliminary level). But I'll answer your
questions as best I can.
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Thanks, at least
I spose we are now in the hands of
http://www.gosvg.net/
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yeah, I'm waiting for that one ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
I spose we are now in the hands of
http://www.gosvg.net/
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in the hands of
http://www.gosvg.net/
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As of when
Hi-
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I spose we are now in the hands of
http://www.gosvg.net/
I just want to note here that the team behind the Renesis SVG viewer is
under new management... there is a new company, EmiaSys, with only the
core technical staff, and with a different financial
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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:36:40 -0400
Hi-
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I spose we are now in the hands of
http
Hi, Richard-
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Doug
Yeh it would be good to perhaps have some idea of where we are going, our
apps rely heavily on SVG (closed apps that have logins) but my head is
spinning at the moment what to do. Maybe I should leave it for another 12
months and then start to
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Another speculative muse in the category of looking on the bright
side:
a) more people will probably start to use Firefox and Opera
b) Microsoft, sensing a loss of market share for IE, will decide to
reprioritize
On 9/6/06, jon_ferraiolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Pat,
Now that I am a member of the community and no longer an employee of
Adobe, here is my reaction:
As of when??!?!?!!?
What happened???
Leonard
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As of when??!?!?!!?
What happened???
Leonard
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Hi Leonard (and the other 7455 people on this list),
I changed jobs in May, leaving Adobe to join IBM's Emerging Technologies
group to help with OpenAjax. I left Adobe for IBM because this OpenAjax
opportunity was just too attractive,
Let's ask adobe to opensource adobe svg viewer I think there is no
opensource svg viewer for IE at the moment (I know, there is mozilla ,
but )
jon_ferraiolo wrote:
Hi Marc,
I think you misunderstood me. I was replying to Margie about how
best to encourage Adobe to change their
Jon,
Thank you for your thoughtful email. Adobe is collecting feedback on
this announcement, and the decision makers are considering the
points that you and others have made.
Pat
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Hi Pat,
Now that I am a member
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Jon,
Thank you for your thoughtful email. Adobe is collecting feedback on
this announcement, and the decision makers are considering the
points that you and others have made.
Pat
Pat
I would like to echo
I believe Adobe want not spend anoyher money on implementing SVG
plugin compatibility for Vista/IE7, and that's why they announced it.
It is very sad, since now SVG is geting more and more popular :-(
If they could be at least so helpful to open source codes of ASV 3 /
6dev to community...
M.
Jon,
That was beautifully written. Thank you for your work and advocacy in the
SVG community. What's the next step for our community to take, regarding
items 3, 4, and 5?
Margie
On 9/6/06, jon_ferraiolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Pat,
Now that I am a member of the community and no longer
Margie,
Thanks for the kind words. In terms of possible next steps, I suggest
finding a way to express your point of view (professionally, of course)
within a blog or a forum that Adobe would read. (I don't know the degree to
which Adobe monitors this forum and I am not sure what other industry
We can't rely on Microsoft, just like we shouldn't have been
comfortable relying on Adobe, to do the right thing and implement
native support for SVG for free. There are business considerations
that will always take priority. Even if they do it, I fear
compatibility issues - their browser
Building an IE plugin on top of Mozilla source sounds so appealing and
yet disturbing at the same time. A Mozilla/Cairo SVG plugin for IE
does sound like it could be a viable technical solution (though I have
no exposure to the source to say how big an undertaking it'd be). I
don't know what the
Jon,
Do you seriously believe that Adobe will change its plans and modify
the course of Flash/Flex to please one or two companies with no
impact on Adobe's business?
Come on Jon, among all people you should know how Adobe misslead
everybody in the SVG community during the past few years.
Hi, Jeff-
As usual, I think you hit the nail on the head.
I have been taking stock on exactly the options you have gone over.
Mozilla is open source and of high quality. Renesis has made good
progress and is planning some very interesting things for their October
release. Amanith is just
On 9/7/06 1:19 PM, Jeff Schiller wrote:
So where are the open source, cross-platform SVG 1.1 viewers ? What
about taking the Mozilla base and developing a browser plugin from
that for only SVG support? What about candidates like AmanithVG and
Renesis for a SVG 1.2 viewer? Let's get a
Hi Marc,
I think you misunderstood me. I was replying to Margie about how
best to encourage Adobe to change their policy. I agree that Adobe
isn't likely to rethink their commitment to Flash/Flex, but they
might rethink some other things, such as making ASV available for
downloads after
Jon,
I believe Adobe will consider extending the support and availability
of the SVG viewer as a potential problem (even if minor) for Flash
and Flex. Why would they maintain a free product which is perceived
as a competitor to their paying product?
About the possibility to open source the
Hi, Jon-
jon_ferraiolo wrote:
Hi Marc,
I think you misunderstood me. I was replying to Margie about how
best to encourage Adobe to change their policy. I agree that Adobe
isn't likely to rethink their commitment to Flash/Flex, but they
might rethink some other things, such as making ASV
On 9/7/06, Doug Schepers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, Jon-
jon_ferraiolo wrote:
Hi Marc,
I think you misunderstood me. I was replying to Margie about how
best to encourage Adobe to change their policy. I agree that Adobe
isn't likely to rethink their commitment to Flash/Flex, but
Adobe has decided to discontinue support for Adobe SVG Viewer. There
are a number of other third-party SVG viewer implementations in the
marketplace
Did anybody knows a implementation that can load as many SVG in the
Wild as Adobe SVG-Viewer can.
including native support for SVG in many
I cannot find the announcement at adobe's website. Care to direct me
to the right URL?
http://www.adobe.com/svg
A link from there brought me to http://www.adobe.com/svg/eol.html
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Hi Pat,
Now that I am a member of the community and no longer an employee of
Adobe, here is my reaction:
(1) First off, I believe that Adobe deserves a great amount of
appreciation for their contributions to SVG and the open standards
world for their activities in previous years. Adobe provided a
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