Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

2003-01-08 Thread Martin J. Dixon
You make my point about Lance vs Bonds. What is it about hitting a fastball that makes it a more redeeming athletic endeavour than hitting a bullseye? And I'm not putting down either. Regards,, Martin Randall Northam wrote: Aargh! I've put up with many other sports on this list - notably

Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

2003-01-08 Thread Randall Northam
Aargh! I've put up with many other sports on this list - notably basketball, baseball and American Football, which no other country other than the USA and Canada plays with any distinction - and is therefore very, very parochial - but now we've got DARTS on the list for heaven's sake. To

Re: t-and-f: Dropped Men's Programs???

2003-01-08 Thread Shawn Devereaux
Just curious, how many of Barton's 20 years of championships came after the demise of Blinn? The Austin American-Statesman had a long article on the Blinn program at the time it was dropped and I remember a Blinn spokesman specifically saying that they needed to add a women's sport (softball or

Re: t-and-f: re: Mascot HEY JILL

2003-01-08 Thread Dave Johnson
You mean Crowley, Layden, Stuhldreher and Miller? my guess is, Apocalypse didn't make it, since they're saying 5 finalists. If Apoc. was the winner, the four finalists would be famine, pestilence... From: Bloomquist, Bret [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Bloomquist, Bret [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

2003-01-08 Thread Dave Johnson
1. Your opponent isn't moving the bullseye to cause you to miss; 2. The bullseye is substantially larger; 3. There is no need to react to the movement and differing speeds of the bullseye; 4. There are far fewer great athletes throwing darts. At 6:12 AM -0500 08.01.2003, Martin J. Dixon wrote:

Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

2003-01-08 Thread ghill
From: Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:53:32 -0500 To: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED], Randall Northam [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year 1. Your opponent isn't

RE: t-and-f: Dropped Men's Programs???

2003-01-08 Thread Jason Michael Blank
-- Bloomquist, Bret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blinn Junior College. Just a JC, but arguably the greatest JC track program of all time. They cut it but kept men's tennis because men's tennis had a better quality of student athlete. Read: Rich white kids. Didn't

Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

2003-01-08 Thread Scott Davis
Let's not be so critical of Darts. This is truly one of the world's great games. In fact, I was a member of a team in the early 1970's in Westwood while in grad school at UCLA. I was the only non-Brit on the team of 8. We played 301 and cricket exclusively. Not the cricket with the bats and

Re: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

2003-01-08 Thread Martin J. Dixon
2. The bullseye is substantially larger What game are we talking about here? Regards, Martin Dave Johnson wrote: 1. Your opponent isn't moving the bullseye to cause you to miss; 2. The bullseye is substantially larger; 3. There is no need to react to the movement and differing speeds of the

Re: t-and-f: Gene-doping

2003-01-08 Thread DLTFNedit
If we want to stop gene doping someone had better jump in a time machine and travel back a million years to the Rift Valley and stop it at the source. :-) sideshow

t-and-f: Big drug dq from NYC Marathon

2003-01-08 Thread Post, Marty
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t-and-f: The Ton Dudes

2003-01-08 Thread malmo
Tracksters (and others) who play competitve darts: Scott Davis Tom Jones Bill Dellinger malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Davis Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:21 PM To: Randall Northam Cc: Martin J. Dixon; [EMAIL

RE: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

2003-01-08 Thread Bloomquist, Bret
Blinn's finest hour was one of its last. At the Texas Relays one year, the USA 4x100 team was the featured attraction -- Carl Lewis and his crew. At the end of the meet, they had a match race in the 4x4 with Blinn -- and Blinn won by a nose. The times were actually a bit slower than Baylor ran in

Re: t-and-f: The Ton Dudes

2003-01-08 Thread ghill
I think Edward James Olmos was goalie on his high school's darts team. From: malmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: malmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 14:30:02 -0500 To: 'Scott Davis' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Randall Northam' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Martin J. Dixon' [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: t-and-f: The Ton Dudes

2003-01-08 Thread Charles F. Wandler
Bill Roe Charles Wandler At 11:30 AM 1/8/2003, malmo wrote: Tracksters (and others) who play competitve darts: Scott Davis Tom Jones Bill Dellinger malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott Davis Sent: Wednesday, January 08,

Re: t-and-f: The Ton Dudes

2003-01-08 Thread Bob Ramsak
I think Edward James Olmos was goalie on his high school's darts team. Who was point guard?

Re: t-and-f: The Ton Dudes

2003-01-08 Thread ghill
obviously, nobody. From: Bob Ramsak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 15:58:11 -0500 To: ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED], track list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: The Ton Dudes I think Edward James Olmos was goalie on his high school's darts team. Who was point guard?

t-and-f: TFN's centerfold

2003-01-08 Thread Geoff Pietsch
Am I alone in hoping that a regular centerfold, like the one of Jorge Torres in this month's issue (I get it late - our snails move really slowly), will be a regular feature? I still have a bunch of full-sized posters of folks like Brendan Foster and Shorter and Viren that TFN used to sell

Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold

2003-01-08 Thread Martin J. Dixon
We in the boonies get it even later. Sled dog delivery takes time. You guys will be talking about the next issue by the time I get mine. Regards, Martin Geoff Pietsch wrote: Am I alone in hoping that a regular centerfold, like the one of Jorge Torres in this month's issue (I get it late -

Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold

2003-01-08 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot
P.S. Garry is free to use this as letter for TFN is he wishes. I was disappointed/pissed, though, at Garry's nasty humor at the expense of Edward James Olmos. Olmos is, from what I've read, a classy person. It seemed like it was made in a positive way to me - I can't help thinking that

t-and-f: USATF News Notes: January 8, 2002

2003-01-08 Thread USATF Communications
Contact:Melvin Jackson II Communications Coordinator USA Track Field (317) 261-0478 x322 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org USATF News Notes Volume 4, Number 3 January 8, 2003

t-and-f: ready to vote

2003-01-08 Thread ghill
Vote for the mascot's name: Cinders Re-run Spike Tailwind Victor E. ZoomByU www.usatf.org gh ps--I'm guessing they're pushing for the last choice in Provo.

t-and-f: Mascot choices

2003-01-08 Thread ghill
I'm biased, perhaps, because I've thought all along that Spike was the best name (even though that's not one of the heh-heh, much more intriguing names I submitted when given the chance!), but it looks to me as if that's what USATF really wants, because the other 4 names are brutally bad. I think

Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold

2003-01-08 Thread ghill
and if he doesn't, change it to Richard Boone. From: Ed and Dana Parrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Ed and Dana Parrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:05:43 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold P.S. Garry is free to use this as letter for TFN is

Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold

2003-01-08 Thread Bob Duncan
Geoff Pietsch wrote: Am I alone in hoping that a regular centerfold, like the one of Jorge Torres in this month's issue (I get it late - our snails move really slowly), will be a regular feature? I still have a bunch of full-sized posters of folks like Brendan Foster and Shorter and Viren

RE: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold

2003-01-08 Thread Ben Hall
In case you've missed it in the last two TFN issues- the email version of Track Newsletter (TFN's results periodical) is now free to TFN magazine subscribers. It will be published 42 times in 2003 and gets emailed every week during the heart of the season with the previous weekends results. You

Re: t-and-f: ready to vote

2003-01-08 Thread Lee Nichols
Well, Re-run would be the obvious choice, given the mascot's history. Vote for the mascot's name: Cinders Re-run Spike Tailwind Victor E. ZoomByU www.usatf.org gh ps--I'm guessing they're pushing for the last choice in Provo. -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin

RE: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold

2003-01-08 Thread WARD, MARK -CKHS
Agreed. My classroom walls are plastered with TFN covers. I'd love to add more poster size stuff!! -Original Message- From: Bob Duncan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold Geoff Pietsch wrote:

Re: t-and-f: Dropped Men's Programs???

2003-01-08 Thread John Rhodes
Didn't Blinn have a majority of foreign athletes on its track teams? Perhaps better quality of student athlete meant local kids? Jason ___ From what I remember that was one of the reasons for dropping track and adding

RE: t-and-f: Mascot choices

2003-01-08 Thread WARD, MARK -CKHS
I voted for Cinders for two reasons. 1. The obvious - he should be burned. 2. Throwback to the old days. -Original Message- From: ghill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:16 PM To: track list Subject: t-and-f: Mascot choices I'm biased, perhaps, because

RE: t-and-f: Mascot choices

2003-01-08 Thread USATF Communications
Let me put everyone at ease, since I know you're all nervous about it, that USATF has not tried to slant the voting toward any one name. You'd be surprised at what some people's favorites are, around the office. We'll let the voters speak!! :) jmg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: t-and-f: ready to vote

2003-01-08 Thread ghill
Maybe it should be re-tread? From: Lee Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Lee Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 17:39:53 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: ready to vote Well, Re-run would be the obvious choice, given the mascot's history. Vote for the

Re: t-and-f: ready to vote

2003-01-08 Thread ghill
Wonder if Tailwind enjoys some kind of copyright protection from Nike? And in the same regard, how about Charles Schultz and Rerun? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:22:51 -0600 To: ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: ready to vote I'm going with Tailwind,

t-and-f: road trip!

2003-01-08 Thread ghill
An update on my continued flogging of the prospect of people spending serious time in NorCal come next May-June. The picture just got a little clearer with the news that the Golden West is apparently targeted for June 15. That's a Sunday, the day after the NCAA wraps up, also in Sacto. So, if you

t-and-f: Third-place finisher in NYC Marathon DQ'd for failed drug test

2003-01-08 Thread Richard McCann
Third-place finisher in NYC Marathon DQ'd for failed drug test January 8, 2003 NEW YORK (AP) -- New York City Marathon third-place finisher Olivera Jevtic of Yugoslavia was disqualified and stripped of her prize money Wednesday after a positive drug test. Jevtic's national track and field

Re: t-and-f: ready to vote

2003-01-08 Thread koala
On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 16:24:32 -0800, you wrote: Wonder if Tailwind enjoys some kind of copyright protection from Nike? And in the same regard, how about Charles Schultz and Rerun? Rerun was the fat kid on the 70's sitcom 'What's Happenin': http://www.geocities.com/flipwigjams/RerunsGroove.html

Re: t-and-f: ready to vote

2003-01-08 Thread koala
Rerun was the fat kid on the 70's sitcom 'What's Happenin': http://www.geocities.com/flipwigjams/RerunsGroove.html Read this one: http://jennyjones.warnerbros.com/cmp/showstuff/greenroom/rerun-body.htm This says that the actor who played the part of 'Rerun' is now trying to lock up rights to

t-and-f: re: Mascot Choices

2003-01-08 Thread Michael J. Roth
Random thoughts on the available names: 1. Cinders - what is left of the track at Stony Brook University because the AD wanted better sightlines for football in their new stadium so they left out the track. 2. Re-run - fat kid from 70's sitcom, Hey hey hey, what's happenin Rog! 3. Spike -

RE: t-and-f: The REAL athlete of the year

2003-01-08 Thread Rich Harrington
Wait a minute, first you stated that Blinn's tennis team is all rich white kids. Then , when your agenda is exposed, it's Blinndergarten??? You can't have it both ways... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bloomquist, Bret Sent: Wednesday,

RE: t-and-f: re: Mascot Choices

2003-01-08 Thread Paul V. Tucknott
4. Tailwind - horrible sneaker and Naval sex scandal, dunno which was more embarrassing. Make that Tailhook . . . The US Naval Aviators convention that was in Vegas I believe? Paul

Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold

2003-01-08 Thread Bob Duncan
ghill wrote: hmmm... that would suggest only 2 possibilities: 1. you're single 2. you're married to Elvira, Mistress of the Dark. Actually, I *did* have a couple of pics of Cassandra Petersen (Elvira) on the walls, too! Not single, but the Widow Duncan has cut me some slack regarding my

RE: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold

2003-01-08 Thread Lee Nichols
But can't something be done to get the staple out of the bellybutton? ;-) -- Lee Nichols Assistant News Editor The Austin Chronicle 512/454-5766, ext. 138 fax 512/458-6910 http://austinchronicle.com

Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold

2003-01-08 Thread ghill
hmmm... that would suggest only 2 possibilities: 1. you're single 2. you're married to Elvira, Mistress of the Dark. gh From: Bob Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Bob Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 17:22:33 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: TFN's

Re: t-and-f: TFN's centerfold

2003-01-08 Thread Mike Prizy
This issue came quick to the Chicago area. Must have been all those state-of-Illinois-related photos. Martin J. Dixon wrote: We in the boonies get it even later. Sled dog delivery takes time. You guys will be talking about the next issue by the time I get mine. Regards, Martin Geoff

t-and-f: spin doctoring Blinn

2003-01-08 Thread Aferr48
I'm surprised at the stance/memory of some of the Texas members of the list. The public relations machine and the spin doctors can say what they want, but the Blinn track program was murdered from the inside. The head coach alienated just about everyone in the school and out, except one

Re: t-and-f: re: Mascot Choices

2003-01-08 Thread Mike Prizy
I submitted Fartlek also. H? What were the rules for making the short list? I say Fartlek as a write in. Reuben Frank wrote: I still can't believe my entry - Fartlek - didn't make the cut. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful.

Re: t-and-f: ready to vote

2003-01-08 Thread Mike Prizy
The money saved from the Mascot RD Fund was transferred over to the Mascot Legal Defense Fund. P.S. No copy rights on Fartlek. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has USATF checked out any legal conflicts with the 'Rerun' moniker? RT