Re: [Talk-transit] Railway. Source= GPS

2009-09-25 Thread Frankie Roberto
Hi Dave, Some people have found more luck getting a GPS signal in the carriage ends (I believe they're called the vestibules?) - however it's a pretty uncomfortable journey stood their the entire time. Otherwise, it simply depends on the type of train (some are more shielded than others), and, I

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway. Source= GPS

2009-09-25 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 25 Sep 2009, at 09:04, Frankie Roberto wrote: Hi Dave, Some people have found more luck getting a GPS signal in the carriage ends (I believe they're called the vestibules?) - however it's a pretty uncomfortable journey stood their the entire time. Yes it called a vestibule.

[Talk-transit] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Train station names: Place Station ou just Place ?

2009-09-25 Thread Richard Mann
UK railway term for the three letter code (eg EUS for Euston) is (wait for it): tlc (most railway locations also have a 5-digit stanox, a 4-digit national location code (nlc), a tiploc and several more, but for stations, the tlc is the nearest to a meaningful short code) I'd suggest something

Re: [Talk-transit] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Train station names: Place Station ou just Place ?

2009-09-25 Thread Frankie Roberto
I've been starting to do this, using ref= on the station relations (eg see http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/255163). You can get a full list of the station codes (and the official names) from http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/codes/ Can I invite anyone mapping UK railway

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway. Source= GPS

2009-09-25 Thread d f
Hi Frankie Where are you mapping? Most of the UK train lines should already be fairly well mapped. In my area they are mapped, but definitely not well. The line traces are so zig-zaggy instead of curves, that on a couple of occasions they've clashed with roads rivers. I shall try in the

Re: [Talk-hr] [JOSM] WMS plugin

2009-09-25 Thread jhabijan
Dražen Odobašić dodoba...@... writes: Savjetujem da provjerite koji vam je 'Downloader' postavljen u 'WMS Plugin Preferences', ja imam postavljeno gnome-web-photo --mode=photo --format=png {0} /dev/stdout, doduše istog sam buildao iz sourcea... Radi mi Yahoo, i landsat, ostale nisam

Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?

2009-09-25 Thread maning sambale
Too busy on the dates below? :( Please suggest new dates then. :) On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 8:33 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: October weekends 4 11 18 25 On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 5:20 PM, ian lopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote: The roads in Ortigas Center core

Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?

2009-09-25 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
I'm good with Oct 10, 17 and 24. I prefer Saturdays. :-) On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 8:33 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: October weekends 4 11 18 25 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?

2009-09-25 Thread Nacario Neil
I also prefer saturdays. From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:56:20 PM Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party? I'm good

Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?

2009-09-25 Thread ian lopez
I'm not available on October 10 (since I have a commitment on that date), 24 and 25 (another commitment). Suggestions for mapping: We could join a Carlos Celdran tour, or map one or two cemeteries within Metro Manila that are known for the sites where some notable people are/were buried. Just

Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?

2009-09-25 Thread maning sambale
So the best is October 17 Will attend seav ianlopez maning neilnacario (san ka? davao or metro manila) Several suggestions for place Metro Manila Somewhere CAMANAVA Ortigas Home Depot and Metro Walk. McKinley Hills in Taguig (near Bonifacio Global City). Mandaluyong around Shaw

Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?

2009-09-25 Thread Marloue Pidor
We are not sure if we can conduct a mapping party here in Davao on the Oct 17 simultaneous to Metro Manila since most of the mappers here are from the academe and October 17 is the last day of the exam week for most schools we cannot do some preparations because we are preparing for the exams.

Re: [OSM-talk] trunk_link ref=*

2009-09-25 Thread Kev js1982
In the uk they do - visible on the driver location signs - seams to be a bit random as to which road gets them though - at the a50/a500 junction the latter gets all of them iirc Can't remember seeing them at the later a500/m6 junction though or the m6/m65 one On 9/25/09, Cartinus

Re: [OSM-talk] trunk_link ref=*

2009-09-25 Thread Lennard
Cartinus wrote: We (should) map what is there. So the real question is: Do sliproads between trunk roads actually have a ref in the real world? If I'm not mistaken, then they don't have one around here (the Netherlands). They do, at least between motorways. They are usually numbered the

Re: [OSM-talk] Own aerial photos

2009-09-25 Thread Rob
2009/9/24 Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com: On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Matt Williams li...@milliams.com wrote: Take a look at http://milliams.com/verticalitymetre/, http://milliams.com/verticalitymetre/stats.php and

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-25 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I believe Andy R is. Field boundaries would also be a great help in the 3D navigation stuff I'm working on. I think most people who map the countryside do map gates and stiles btw. Nick We do, I know, because I'm one of them ;-) but sometimes that's not quite enough. I had a path that

Re: [OSM-talk] Should Bridges be independent of their ways?

2009-09-25 Thread James Livingston
On 22/09/2009, at 10:57 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/9/22 Anthony o...@inbox.org: It is possible to represent different surfaces and different maxspeeds without using more than one way. maxspeed:lane=130;110; surface:lane=asphalt;concrete. That's not necessarily the best

Re: [OSM-talk] trunk_link ref=*

2009-09-25 Thread Dave F.
Thanks to all for your replies. Lennard wrote: Personally, I don't think these should be rendered on the main maps, osmarender:renderRef is a tag to prevent rendering. and they should not be made up by us if there is no real ref on the ground. Would they not be essential for routing

[OSM-talk] Help needed : Howto undo own upload

2009-09-25 Thread colliar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi I am quite new here. I made a mistake while uploading my changes onto the server. grrr How can I undo these changes? I am using josm. Thanks colliar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)

Re: [OSM-talk] trunk_link ref=*

2009-09-25 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Dave F. wrote: Would they not be essential for routing software? Routing software by its nature will preprocess the OSM data: you'd be insane to route over raw OSM data (though I'm sure someone's doing it). Gosmore, for example, preprocesses it into .pak files. As part of that, the routing

Re: [OSM-talk] trunk_link ref=*

2009-09-25 Thread Lennard
Dave F. wrote: Personally, I don't think these should be rendered on the main maps, osmarender:renderRef is a tag to prevent rendering. I said 'maps', plural. One renderer's trick of not showing certain features is certainly the wrong approach to this. and they should not be made up by us

Re: [OSM-talk] trunk_link ref=*

2009-09-25 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Lennard l...@xs4all.nl wrote: Dave F. wrote: Personally, I don't think these should be rendered on the main maps, osmarender:renderRef is a tag to prevent rendering. I said 'maps', plural. One renderer's trick of not showing certain features is certainly

[OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Dave F.
This is a continuation of the thread [OSM-talk] Field boundaries, specifically the message on the 25th at 10:42 I started a new one because it would stray from the original topic. Nick Whitelegg wrote: Just to check, and apologies if I'm telling you the complete obvious: make sure that the OS

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-25 Thread Dave F.
Nick Whitelegg wrote: I believe Andy R is. Field boundaries would also be a great help in the 3D navigation stuff I'm working on. I think most people who map the countryside do map gates and stiles btw. Nick We do, I know, because I'm one

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread John Smith
2009/9/25 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: Is this a breach of copyright? I've already been in a similar discussion about using google maps to plan routes, some suggest this is breach of copyright, but then anyone using a map for any reason would be in breach of copyright so I doubt this is

Re: [OSM-talk] Own aerial photos

2009-09-25 Thread Ian Dees
On Sep 25, 2009, at 4:02 AM, Rob r...@coolbegin.com wrote: 2009/9/24 Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com: On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Matt Williams li...@milliams.com wrote: Take a look at

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Tom Hughes
On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote: I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of way, and its associated copyright, would belong to the Local Council. When they make a legal order to record a public right of

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-25 Thread malenki
John McKerrell wrote: On 23 Sep 2009, at 20:16, malenki wrote: John McKerrell wrote: On 22 Sep 2009, at 17:44, malenki wrote: | There was an error saving your changes Odd, I'll take a look, can you paste the URL to the thumbnail to help me identify it? Impossible at the moment, OSV

Re: [OSM-talk] Should Bridges be independent of their ways?

2009-09-25 Thread Anthony
Usually there will be ~100mtres for this where you can change at any time, but in OSM you have to decide on one merging point. I haven't seen a proposed scheme yet that really deals with this properly, they pretty much all pretend that a lane starts at a point. Personally I don't think

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView

2009-09-25 Thread John McKerrell
On 25 Sep 2009, at 13:58, malenki wrote: You are right (except that I have uploaded ~2k pictures. Meanwhile 376 seem to exist for the counter :) ) I wonder how I cam to Moderating loggin in before, since there is no hint how to get there now. After all, I took the URL from the history of th

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Dave F.
Tom Hughes wrote: On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote: I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of way, and its associated copyright, would belong to the Local Council. When they make a legal order to record

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Tom Hughes
On 25/09/09 14:30, Dave F. wrote: The map he sent is titled as a Definitive Map. It has an OS underlay, but the information laid on top is compiled from Council gathered info. eg GPS survey equipment from an independent company employed to produce the definitive maps. Do you know for

Re: [OSM-talk] Help needed : Howto undo own upload

2009-09-25 Thread malenki
colliar wrote: I am quite new here. I made a mistake while uploading my changes onto the server. grrr How can I undo these changes? I am using josm. The wiki sometimes is helpful. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Undo BTW: If there are users who can run undo-scripts (or something like that)

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Chris Hill
Dave F. wrote: Tom Hughes wrote: On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote: I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of way, and its associated copyright, would belong to the Local Council. When they

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Dave F.
Tom Hughes wrote: On 25/09/09 14:30, Dave F. wrote: The map he sent is titled as a Definitive Map. It has an OS underlay, but the information laid on top is compiled from Council gathered info. eg GPS survey equipment from an independent company employed to produce the definitive maps. Do

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Dave F.
Chris Hill wrote: Dave F. wrote: Tom Hughes wrote: On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote: I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of way, and its associated copyright, would

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Nick Whitelegg
You bring up a point that I think needs expanding on for clarification. I decide where I'm going to go for a walk by looking at a combination of my OS and OSM maps. I look for /indications /of rights of way on my OS map. Initially this is the only evidence I have. If I see it's not indicated in

Re: [OSM-talk] Own aerial photos

2009-09-25 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Map Warper http://warper.geothings.net/ open source, and uses OpenStreetMap for setting of control points. And then take the geotiffs that come out of it and use mapnik's rastersymbolizer with generate_tiles.py to make

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 25 Sep 2009, at 15:27, Dave F. wrote: Chris Hill wrote: Dave F. wrote: Tom Hughes wrote: On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote: I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of way, and its associated

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Jon Stockill
Tom Hughes wrote: On 25/09/09 14:30, Dave F. wrote: The map he sent is titled as a Definitive Map. It has an OS underlay, but the information laid on top is compiled from Council gathered info. eg GPS survey equipment from an independent company employed to produce the definitive maps.

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread David Earl
On 25/09/2009 14:30, Dave F. wrote: I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of way, and its associated copyright, would belong to the Local Council. When they make a legal order to record a public right of

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Chris Hill
Dave F. wrote: Chris Hill wrote: Dave F. wrote: Tom Hughes wrote: On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote: I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Chris Hill wrote: Sent: 25 September 2009 3:08 PM To: OSM Talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright? Dave F. wrote: Tom Hughes wrote: On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote: I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local council. He intimated that the data relating to

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
It does seem that what is needed here is not the definitive map but rather the survey data the two surveyors gathered. As others have said if that data has been overlain onto an OS map there is no way of knowing what is derived and what is not. Not unless the bod from the council is prepared to

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Chris Hill wrote: Sent: 25 September 2009 4:02 PM To: OSM Talk Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright? Dave F. wrote: Chris Hill wrote: Dave F. wrote: Tom Hughes wrote: On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote: I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local

[OSM-talk] Duplicate nodes incorrectly removed by bot BugBuster ?

2009-09-25 Thread Pieren
Dear list, A bot running under the user name BugBuster is currently modifying many closed ways and remove nodes listed twice, e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31604969/history Is it not normal that a closed way has the same node twice in the list ? regards Pieren

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate nodes incorrectly removed by bot BugBuster ?

2009-09-25 Thread Shaun McDonald
Another bad thing about that bot is that it is producing a changeset for each edit, with nearly 10 changesets per minute. On 25 Sep 2009, at 16:49, Pieren wrote: Dear list, A bot running under the user name BugBuster is currently modifying many closed ways and remove nodes listed twice,

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate nodes incorrectly removed by bot BugBuster ?

2009-09-25 Thread Dave F.
Pieren wrote: Dear list, A bot running under the user name BugBuster is currently modifying many closed ways and remove nodes listed twice, e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/31604969/history Is it not normal that a closed way has the same node twice in the list? regards Pieren

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate nodes incorrectly removed by bot BugBuster ?

2009-09-25 Thread Gary68
in a closed way the first and the last node must be the same your example is an error. On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 17:49 +0200, Pieren wrote: Dear list, A bot running under the user name BugBuster is currently modifying many closed ways and remove nodes listed twice, e.g.

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate nodes incorrectly removed by bot BugBuster ?

2009-09-25 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Gary68 g...@gary68.de wrote: in a closed way the first and the last node must be the same your example is an error. Yes, it seems it is only touching buildings, maybe created by a previous import because they contain a tag ID. The original way has the same node

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate nodes incorrectly removed by bot BugBuster ?

2009-09-25 Thread Dave F.
Pieren wrote: and the fix is also wrong... Pieren What am I not understanding? It's a rectangle which has four points. The way lists five nodes, the first last the values of which are the same therefore making it closed. ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Field boundaries

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Harris
... At least I don't spend all my time on OSM - sometimes I'm one of those guys who puts the waymarks in place (sometimes after walking down the wrong side of the hedge because the by OS 1:25k has a registration error (or is just plain wrong!). I do always try to orient the waymark with enough

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Harris
I do not work FOR a Highway Authority but I do work very closely WITH one. My HA's view is much as Dave F reports - there is no copyright for the rights of way (we the great unwashed public own them) and the data on definitive maps and their electronic equivalents held or published by the HA is

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Harris
If your HA supplies you with a copy of e.g. the definitive map (physical or electronic) you will almost certainly find that it is watermarked with their logo (and possibly with an OS licence statement). So I don't think we can use the base mapping but we can use the information about the rights of

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Harris
Dave I don't think you can transfer the paths from the definitive map - they get there by being a GIS layer superimposed on and rectified to the OS base mapping even though they may have been separately surveyed (which I rather doubt). The dates of most original definitive maps are such that GPS

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Harris
There may be a misunderstanding here - the Definitive Map is a legal document and was (in almost all cases produced a long time ago - interesting thought in passing - if it is 50 years old would it be out of copyright! The initiating legislation is the National Parks and Access to the Countryside

[OSM-legal-talk] New license status

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Collinson
Here is a quick report from the License Working Group as we have been rather quiet. Since the proposal we made to the OSMF board in August and at SOTM 2009, we have been working on a number of small issues raised but now getting on track to make our final formal license change proposal to OSMF

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate nodes incorrectly removed by bot BugBuster ?

2009-09-25 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Nope. That way is not closed. A closed way is a way has the *same* starting and ending nodes, not a starting and an ending node that happen to have identical coordinates. So the way is still broken, but the bot's fix (duplicated nodes) is correct for the particular bug the bot is fixing. On Sat,

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate nodes incorrectly removed by bot BugBuster ?

2009-09-25 Thread Dave F.
Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Nope. That way is not closed. A closed way is a way has the *same* starting and ending nodes, not a starting and an ending node that happen to have identical coordinates. So the way is still broken, but the bot's fix (duplicated nodes) is correct for the

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Barnett, Phillip
+1 The 'definitive statement' is the only thing from the local authority that we can really use, but that is surprisingly detailed. Here's an example of a path modification in Cambridgeshire The above Order made on 30 May 2006, if confirmed as made, will modify the Definitive Map and Statement

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Dave F.
Mike Harris wrote: There may be a misunderstanding here - the Definitive Map is a legal document and was (in almost all cases produced a long time ago - interesting thought in passing - if it is 50 years old would it be out of copyright! The initiating legislation is the National Parks and

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Harris
Jon makes a good point about the Definitive Statement - at least in principle - indeed it is the process I described in an earlier message to this thread describing how the Definitive Maps were originally created. There is a big 'but' though - from my own experience the Definitive Statements are

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Harris
Lucky you - I have never seen a Definitive Statement that is that detailed - in fact it is not a Definitive Statement (upon which the original Definitive Map will have been based)! It is the text of a Definitive Map Modification Order making a specific amendment to a specific path or paths (in

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Mike Harris
Still the Council's budget though - so don't hold your breath - my lot can only afford a couple of cheap units although they are trying to get the funds for a top-of-the-range ±1m jobby! Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Dave F. [mailto:dave...@madasafish.com] Sent: 25 September

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Liz
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Mike Harris wrote: The second issue is that the text uses OS GRs throughout - so what is the status as a derivative work? it mentions grid references but gives enough detail from the road names, places of gates and number of metres to be walked that you could find that

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Thread Liz
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Mike Harris wrote: Statements are almost or completely empty for hundreds of paths - sometimes not a single path in a parish has a meaningful Definitive Statement! This is an illegal state of affairs but that is simply the case and cannot now be changed (other than by a

[OSM-talk] walking-papers.org is dead?

2009-09-25 Thread ouɐɯnH
walking-papers.org is dead? some time ago I can not upload sanners, anyone know anything about this? salu2 Humano -- http://GaleNUx.com es el sistema de información para la salud --///-- Teléfono USA: (347) 688-4473

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] huisnummers controle

2009-09-25 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
Sybren A. Stüvel wrote: Dit is alleen relevant als zowel de even als de oneven nummers aan dezelfde kant van de straat zitten. Bij addr:interpolation=even zit er dus zowiezo geen 3 tussen. Hoe gaat die tool om met addr:interpolation=all versus addr:interpolation=even? dat kun je toch zien

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] huisnummers controle

2009-09-25 Thread Armijn Hemel
On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 09:49 +0200, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: persoonlijk vind ik alleen de nummers interessant dus die voer ik ook alleen in. als een blok van 2a tot 4c loopt vul ik 2-4 in. dat is voor mij meer dan genoeg informatie. Ha! Wat als nou een blok 1 t/m 7a heeft (inclusief even

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-25 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:24:49 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Something else worth noting, as I've been doing postcode boundaries I've noticed some people have wiped some of the ABS tags so they could do their roads or what not. I've added them back in as it's only fair to

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-25 Thread John Smith
2009/9/25 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:24:49 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Something else worth noting, as I've been doing postcode boundaries I've noticed some people have wiped some of the ABS tags so they could do their roads or what not.

Re: [talk-au] http://maposmatic.org/

2009-09-25 Thread James Livingston
On 24/09/2009, at 9:51 PM, John Smith wrote: They didn't seem to have a link to download it and even if they did I only know a limited number of computer languages, I don't know perl or ruby or python which are common languages for stuff done for OSM I know some Python if you need a hand.

Re: [talk-au] What's the best way to edit on holidays?

2009-09-25 Thread James Livingston
On 25/09/2009, at 6:44 AM, Liz wrote: On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Mark Pulley wrote: (I should be able to complete the Antarctica highway system on the trip :-P ) Now to be able to say that I have completed the entire highway for a continent singlehanded surely is better than North Star for

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-25 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:58:14 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/25 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:24:49 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Something else worth noting, as I've been doing postcode boundaries I've noticed some

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-25 Thread John Smith
2009/9/25 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: There is no guarantee that the ABS boundary still runs along any road. I wonder if there would be benefit in moving the ABS boundary to match, ideally we'd love for the ABS to use us for data in and out, not just in

Re: [talk-au] More on the survey tag

2009-09-25 Thread John Smith
2009/9/26 Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: I don't think that the ABS boundaries change if the roads change. It'd be worth investigating, especially if other govt bodies can benefit from it and as a result we end up with more data. It's probably worth while whoever originally contacted the ABS

[talk-au] OSM data in various formats

2009-09-25 Thread John Smith
Found this by accident: http://downloads.cloudmade.com/oceania/australia#breadcrumbs It has Australian OSM data in various formats. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [Talk-br] Estação de metrô mapeada ao extrem o

2009-09-25 Thread Junior, Claudomiro
Eu estava pensando nisso tb no caso de mapeamento de favelas. O último zoom não seria muito adequado pra diferençar as vielas/becos que se entrecruzam em algumas delas... _ From: talk-br-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-br-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Bráulio Bezerra

Re: [Talk-br] Estação de metrô mapeada ao extrem o

2009-09-25 Thread Junior, Claudomiro
Sim, com o JOSM podemos editar sem limite de zoom, Mas estamos falando da renderização default do mapa no site. O ultimo nivel atualmente é o 17. O Google vai até o 19 - O problema é que cada nível a mais consome 4x mais espaço e processamento que o nível anterior para ser gerado. []s

[Talk-br] maposmatic

2009-09-25 Thread Vitor George
olá, olhem só que ferramenta interessante para gerar mapas com grids: http://maposmatic.org/ pena que por enquanto só está disponível para frança. abs vitor ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-br] Estação de metrô mapeada ao extrem o

2009-09-25 Thread Junior, Claudomiro
Por enquanto o problema é mais teórico, Ricardo. Mas vc pode olhar as fotos de satelite de alguns morros com favela no Rio pra imaginar que o nível de detalhe pode ser alto. []s -Original Message- From: talk-br-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-br-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On

[Talk-de] rechtliches - Firmen-Symbole

2009-09-25 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! wenn ich mir POI-Icons erstelle um gleich die Firma zu erkennen verstoße ich damit gegen das Markenrecht oder vergleichbares oder muss ich dem richtigen möglichst nahe kommen ?? z.b ein Gelbes M gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] Fwd: Mapper bei Ludwigshafen gesucht

2009-09-25 Thread Hermann Schwaerzler
hallo Frederik Ramm wrote: [...] Ich fliege da morgen vorbei und koennte ein paar gescheite Luftbilder machen, aber ich habe keine Zeit, mich dann um die Weiterverarbeitung (georeferenzieren, orthorektifizieren) zu kuemmern. Haette jemand daran Interesse? [...] du wirst ja wahrscheinlich

Re: [Talk-de] rechtliches - Firmen-Symbole

2009-09-25 Thread Stephan Knauss
Jan Tappenbeck wrote: wenn ich mir POI-Icons erstelle um gleich die Firma zu erkennen verstoße ich damit gegen das Markenrecht oder vergleichbares oder muss ich dem richtigen möglichst nahe kommen ?? Da noch niemand geantwortet hat, mein Rat als Nicht-Jurist: Siemlich sicher ja, wenn du

Re: [Talk-de] rechtliches - Firmen-Symbole

2009-09-25 Thread Andre Hinrichs
Moin! Ich bin leider nicht der Rechtsexperte, könnte mir aber vorstellen, dass das die Firmen ohne vorherige Einwilligung nicht so gern sehen. Daher würde ich dazu raten, für jeden Einzelfall die Einwilligung der Firma einzuholen. Vielleicht haben die ja sogar schon eine SVG-Version ihres

Re: [Talk-de] rechtliches - Firmen-Symbole

2009-09-25 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Andre Hinrichs schrieb: Moin! Ich bin leider nicht der Rechtsexperte, könnte mir aber vorstellen, dass das die Firmen ohne vorherige Einwilligung nicht so gern sehen. Daher würde ich dazu raten, für jeden Einzelfall die Einwilligung der Firma einzuholen. Vielleicht haben die ja sogar schon

Re: [Talk-de] meldungen in mkgmap

2009-09-25 Thread Carsten Schwede
Moin, Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: SCHWERWIEGEND (RoadNetwork): http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.18733lon=-3.60873zoom=17 SCHWERWIEGEND (RoadNetwork): Road unclassified (OSM id 8313795) contains zero length arc Die Fehlermeldung kommt daher, dass mkgmap standardmäßig versucht sehr eng

Re: [Talk-de] Immer noch Probleme mit der TYP-Datei

2009-09-25 Thread Carsten Schwede
Hi, ekkeh...@gmx.de schrieb: allerdings nicht virulent, sie sagt nichts aus über die weitere Nutzung durch Dritte, die es von Dir kostenlos erhalten haben. Na das würde ich jetzt nicht auf die juristische Waage legen wollen. Wird echt mal Zeit für die neue Lizenz. Für cgpsmapper

Re: [Talk-de] rechtliches - Firmen-Symbole

2009-09-25 Thread Norbert Kück
Hallo, am 25.09.2009 09:02 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck: Moin ! wenn ich mir POI-Icons erstelle um gleich die Firma zu erkennen verstoße ich damit gegen das Markenrecht oder vergleichbares oder muss ich dem richtigen möglichst nahe kommen ?? z.b ein Gelbes M Wie macht es denn der

Re: [Talk-de] OpenStreetMap und landwirtschaftl. Logisitk unterstützung

2009-09-25 Thread SLXViper
Schön zu sehen, dass wieder einmal osm zum Einsatz kommen könnte. Auch schön, dass man hier nicht nur in eine Richtung denkt (wie kann ich die Daten nutzen?) sondern auch, wie OSM profitieren könnte. Sehr interessant wäre natürlich, wenn die Luftbilder nicht nur als Hintergrund für LandMap genutzt

Re: [Talk-de] rechtliches - Firmen-Symbole

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 25. September 2009 09:57 schrieb Andre Hinrichs andre.hinri...@gmx.de: Moin! Ich bin leider nicht der Rechtsexperte, könnte mir aber vorstellen, dass das die Firmen ohne vorherige Einwilligung nicht so gern sehen. Daher würde ich dazu raten, für jeden Einzelfall die Einwilligung der Firma

Re: [Talk-de] rechtliches - Firmen-Symbole

2009-09-25 Thread Mirko Küster
+1. ich würde auch anfragen. Am Besten generell für OSM Ohne Anfrage kann es möglicherweise tatsächlich zu Problemen kommen, auch wenn das eigentlich Werbung wäre. Ich kenne das nur aus folgender Situation. Für Simulationen brauchten wir immer wieder massenhaft Objekte, Objekte die auch im

Re: [Talk-de] Aufrufen eines Kartenausschnittes an einer bestimmten Adresse

2009-09-25 Thread Robert Becker
Am 23. September 2009 15:48 schrieb Robert Becker rbecker2...@googlemail.com: Hallo, Ist es möglich einen Kartenausschnitt aufzurufen wenn ich die adresse zb an die URL mit ?query= übergebe? Gruß Robert ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] rechtliches - Firmen-Symbole

2009-09-25 Thread Guenther Meyer
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:12:37AM +0200, Jan Tappenbeck wrote: dann frage ich mich nur wie einige tankstellen auf http://gpsdrive.de/development/map-icons/overview.en.shtml kommen ! weil die da wohl jemand hochgeladen hat... ;-) mit gesundem menschenverstand betrachtet, gibt es nichts

Re: [Talk-de] Aufrufen eines Kartenausschnittes an einer bestimmten Adresse

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 25. September 2009 14:56 schrieb Robert Becker rbecker2...@googlemail.com: Am 23. September 2009 15:48 schrieb Robert Becker rbecker2...@googlemail.com: Hallo, Ist es möglich einen Kartenausschnitt aufzurufen wenn ich die adresse zb an die URL mit ?query= übergebe? 1. Kartenausschnitt

Re: [Talk-de] Aufrufen eines Kartenausschnittes an einer bestimmten Adresse

2009-09-25 Thread Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
Robert Becker schrieb: Ist es möglich einen Kartenausschnitt aufzurufen wenn ich die adresse zb an die URL mit ?query= übergebe? Man kann den Ausschnitt so angeben: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.0lon=7.0zoom=12 Eine Adresse kannst Du dort nicht verwenden. Grüße Chris

Re: [Talk-de] Aufrufen eines Kartenausschnittes an einer bestimmten Adresse

2009-09-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 25. September 2009 15:52 schrieb Chris-Hein Lunkhusen chris66...@gmx.de: Robert Becker schrieb:     Ist es möglich einen Kartenausschnitt aufzurufen wenn ich die     adresse zb an die URL mit ?query= übergebe? Man kann den Ausschnitt so angeben:

Re: [Talk-de] Aufrufen eines Kartenausschnittes an einer bestimmten Adresse

2009-09-25 Thread Markus
Hallo Chris, Eine Adresse kannst Du dort nicht verwenden. Wäre aber nützlich und menschenlesbarer: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?land=DEplz=#ort=*strasse=*zoom=12 :-) Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] OpenStreetMap und landwirtschaftl. Logisitk unterstützung

2009-09-25 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Johann H. Addicks addi...@gmx.net writes: Es sollte dann z.B. ein filter draufgesetzt werden, dass in OSM nur die Daten landen mit Fahrgeschwindigkeit 15km/h. (anpassbar vom Hochlader) Dann hat man mit Sicherheit nicht mehr das drin was in den Ackergängen gefahren wird. Mich interessiert

[Talk-de] neues Tool: Reverse-Geocoder

2009-09-25 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Hallo Community, ich habe einen kleinen Reverse-Geocoder gebastelt, der bald die Daten für mein neues Hausnummerntool liefern soll. http://81.89.102.117/openstreetmap/reverse-geocoder/index.html Das Tool wirft die Straßen im Umkreis von 50 Metern um die angeklickte Koordinate aus. Ich habe

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