On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 at 20:55, Andrew Harvey
wrote:
> I think if you apply sensible defaults where not tagged (track => unpaved,
> other roads => paved, 50 km/hr for residential, lanes=2), then we have
> mapped a lot already, sure there's a lot to go, but we're getting there.
>
The subject of
In a paralell thought, we could use more of Sentinel satellite weekly updated
images 10m resolution in OSM for this kind of land covers.
>Arun Ganesh
>And yes, those glaciers have probably melted away and theres
>no practical way to ground truth them
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Sérgio -
Bonjour à tous,
Le Service de l'Urbanisme de la Polynésie Française (qui a un rôle
proche de l'IGN en France) souhaite reverser ses données dans OSM. Ce
faisant ils souhaitent inciter à la contribution (que je partage
personnellement sous réserve que la donnée soit de qualité) mais aussi
Well put stevea!
Lets not forget what originally brought many of us here together (at least
from my interactions with many of you in real life), a dream that humans
could create the most accurate representation of the world through open
collaboration.The support of FB massively increases the
That's also why I've always emphasized that the link for OSMF-talk email list
SHOULD be accessible for everyone to know it and read it (even if not signed to
that mail list)
to be aware of what's going inside OSMF talks.
Not some hidden link in one in a thousand of wiki pages (I forgot it again).
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 6:38 PM Martin Wynne wrote:
> Sometimes deciding what is and isn't a gate is tricky. Is this a gate?
>
To me that's very clearly a gate 路♂️
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Bon dia, gent!
Tot aprofitant que tenim el personal docent fent vacances, he pensat en
començar a preparar la importació dels centres docents que tenim a
Catalunya, a partir del dataset que hi ha a les dades obertes de la
Generalitat.
Per poder fer la importació cal seguir una sèrie de passes i
Excellent, Christoph. I'll say that I have been (for decades, sometimes at a
higher-level) in software (and data) quality assurance (QA) in major software
companies (Apple, Adobe), some of whom make privacy and ethics important
components of their way of doing business. (Obviously, some
Liebe Community,
das Land Steiermark ist an mich herangetreten, eine Overpass-Abfrage der
Radrouten in der Steiermark zu erstellen. Habe ich natürlich gerne gemacht.
Vor allem auch, weil das Land einen sehr offenen Umgang mit den OGD pflegt.
Auf die Lizenz habe ich hingewiesen.
Das Land verfolgt
Including my ₹ 0.10 (Indian ten paisa)
Echoes same thoughts of Brazilian Real.
AI-assisted human mapping tools will be a good aid for the OSM community.
"Map faster, Map better".
40,00,000 kms to be mapped in India.
15 years of OSM mapped 18,00,000 kms.
thanks,
naveenpf
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019
On Friday 26 July 2019, stevea wrote:
> [...]
> However, does that mean that "nice tech" is tech which SHOULD be
> applied to OSM? Some (Frederik, others) say no, or perhaps holds his
> nose as he watches it happen anyway. Others, who might make an
> argument that applied AI tech has similar
Sometimes deciding what is and isn't a gate is tricky. Is this a gate?
http://85a.uk/beware_bull_960x772.jpg
If not, what is it? Should it be mapped at all?
cheers,
Martin.
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On 26 July 2019 13:35:30 BST, Tony Shield wrote:
>Following on from SilentSpike's import of NaPTAN/Aberdeen I am planning
>
>to perform a similar import for Lancashire.
>
>I've created a wiki page
>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Lancashire which I have
>coped
>from SilentSpike
Et cétélafot au dinateur. Ou à de vilains futurs pirates. On ne sait pas
trop.
https://twitter.com/EU_GNSS/status/1151794921935970305
On 18/07/2019 22:18, deuzeffe wrote:
Il semble que ça soit retombé en marche :
https://www.gsc-europa.eu/news/galileo-initial-services-have-now-been-restored
I recall reading an article "The paid mappers are coming!" several years back,
it seemed to alarm many, though it didn't spell the end of OSM. Now we have
"the applied intelligence is here!" doing much the same thing (being poorly
introduced into the consciousness of our community, tripping
That's always an issue with imported data, the tag naptan:verified helps
in this respect.
In the Lancashire dataset there are HAR (Hail and Ride) and CUS
(Customary) stops which I think are virtual - there is no mark on the
ground, these will not be imported, so I think we have the main
Sembra proprio quello che cercavo!
Grazie
Il giorno ven 26 lug 2019 alle ore 16:53 Damjan Gerl ha
scritto:
> Vedi questo tag che dovrebbe essere appropriato:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbaking_oven
>
> Ciao
> Damjan
>
>
> -- Original Header ---
>
> From
Dear mappers,
There is currently a ticket [1] in the GitHub repository of the Operations
Working Group proposing to change the favicons (the little icons displayed next
to the browser tabs) of multiple subdomains of osm.org (forum, wiki, help,
...). Please feel free to join in or comment via
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 4:08 PM Silent Spike
wrote:
> It might be worth mentioning handling for stops present in NaPTAN which no
> longer exist.
>
To clarify, I mean stops marked as active which are no longer physically
there (implying the NaPTAN record is outdated).
No objections from me obviously!
I like that you included handling for records marked as deleted in NaPTAN.
Not something I considered until it was brought up after my import.
It might be worth mentioning handling for stops present in NaPTAN which no
longer exist. I've been following the
On 26/07/2019 11:54, Mike N wrote:
On 7/26/2019 4:34 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote:
The corporate appropriation of OpenStreetMap
I'm not a corporate wonk, but I'll note that in my region, "Amazon
Logistics" is effectively solving the Last Mile Mapping problem: how
to include driveways into
Vedi questo tag che dovrebbe essere appropriato:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbaking_oven
Ciao
Damjan
-- Original Header ---
From : "Ivo Reano" reano...@gmail.com
To : "openstreetmap list - italiano" talk-it@openstreetmap.org
Cc :
Ho due esempi.
Uno: una targa evidenzia la presenza di un antico forno per la cottura del
pane.
Due: il forno è ancora usato per la cottura del pane. La legna necessaria è
raccolta a turno dai paesani, così anche la preparazione del forno.
Un tempo il pane si preparava in casa e la cottura veniva
On 2019-07-26 15:47, Andy Townsend wrote:
> On 26/07/2019 13:28, David Woolley wrote: On 26/07/2019 12:57, Stephen
> Colebourne wrote: unless there is an explicit "private" sign
> There is no legal need for "private" signs. The default assumption should be
> that everything is private
... in
I live in Michigan and regularly drive US 2 in the Upper Peninsula.
The Lake Michigan route isn't signed in any sort of meaningful way.
Max
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Mikel,
On 26.07.19 11:49, Mikel Maron wrote:
> I for one would not say anything if I did not personally believe it. I
> am not here representing corporate interests (at this very moment I'm
> writing this from the middle of Nairobi's largest slum working on OSM,
> rather than a comfortable room
Hi Kim,
If you have added the website tag I must have missed it, too many tabs.
I did not mean to come across condescending. I'm sorry.
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On 26 July 2019 9:51:19 am AEST, Kim Oldfield
wrote:
>Hi Sebastian,
>
>The source
On 26/07/2019 13:28, David Woolley wrote:
On 26/07/2019 12:57, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
unless there is an explicit "private" sign
There is no legal need for "private" signs. The default assumption
should be that everything is private
... in England and Wales. Scotland is somewhat more
山下です。皆さんこんにちわ。
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On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 1:15 PM Martin Wynne wrote:
> The tag is *barrier*=gate.
>
> A permanently open gate isn't a barrier, so I don't think it should be
> tagged as such. At least not across a way.
>
It's a common mistake to interpret keys to match their corresponding word
definitions. The
On 26/07/2019 12:57, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
unless there is an explicit "private" sign
There is no legal need for "private" signs. The default assumption
should be that everything is private (even though the OSM default is
mainly the opposite).
In my part of the country, garden front
Following on from SilentSpike's import of NaPTAN/Aberdeen I am planning
to perform a similar import for Lancashire.
I've created a wiki page
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Lancashire which I have coped
from SilentSpike Aberdeen and changed the areas, also slightly altered
the
Op vr 26 jul. 2019 om 13:15 schreef Martin Wynne :
>
> The tag is *barrier*=gate.
>
> A permanently open gate isn't a barrier, so I don't think it should be
> tagged as such. At least not across a way.
In OSM tagging, the definition isn't strongly tied to the literal
English meaning, but rather
The tag is *barrier*=gate.
A permanently open gate isn't a barrier, so I don't think it should be
tagged as such. At least not across a way.
You could add a separate node to one side of the way, and tag that as a
gate.
A gate which is often open, but sometimes closed, is just an ordinary
On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 at 11:59, Colin Smale wrote:
> On 2019-07-26 12:26, Gareth L wrote:
> This was discussed on the wiki
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:barrier%3Dgate with the
> suggestion of using a status tag. And was also discussed (9 years ago?!)
>
On 26/07/19 21:06, Colin Smale wrote:
I guess what we are trying to get out of this, is:
a) as a router, can i feel free to route "Joe Public" through here?
If the gate is open - yes.
If the gate is closed and unlocked - yes.
If the gate is closed and locked - no.
I would expect an access
..sul discorso il sentiero esiste ancora non è stato cancellato nel caso
della tempesta è abbastanza discutibile...lo sapremo tra qualche anno quando
e se verranno tolti gli ostacoli...
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/45.89090/11.13388
...in questo caso proprio tutto il sentiero risulta
I guess what we are trying to get out of this, is:
a) as a router, can i feel free to route "Joe Public" through here?
b) as a router, how much time penalty should i factor in for passing
this gate?
Anything else?
On 2019-07-26 12:58, Warin wrote:
> To bring a little international
On 2019-07-26 12:26, Gareth L wrote:
> This was discussed on the wiki
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:barrier%3Dgate [1] with the
> suggestion of using a status tag. And was also discussed (9 years ago?!)
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2010-May/thread.html
To bring a little international perspective to this.
In outback Australia the convention is "leave the gate as you found it".
Unfortunately there are some who don't.
To cope with this problem some gates are hung so that they close under
gravity.
To keep these open the farmer locks the gate
On 7/26/2019 4:34 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote:
The corporate appropriation of OpenStreetMap
I'm not a corporate wonk, but I'll note that in my region, "Amazon
Logistics" is effectively solving the Last Mile Mapping problem: how to
include driveways into routing.Based on ground truth,
> I'm not sure why other users are not using attributes/tags like lanes,
surface, smoothness, maxspeed, toll and other attributes which would be of
great help to figure out what is the capacity of the road.
Do you mean OSM mappers, or downstream consumers of OSM data?
A lot of mappers are
>"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salarydepends
>upon his not understanding it."
Ok it's a pithy quote. Is it possible that however well written, this quote may
not always be right? that it's difficult but not impossible to get a man or
woman to understand
On Friday 26 July 2019, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
> The most well-know version is from Upton Sinclair's campaign to
> become governor of California in the 1930's:
>
> "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary
> depends upon his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair -
This was discussed on the wiki
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:barrier%3Dgate with the suggestion
of using a status tag. And was also discussed (9 years ago?!)
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2010-May/thread.html
Tagging things as access=private does impact
The most well-know version is from Upton Sinclair's campaign to become
governor of California in the 1930's:
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary
depends upon his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair - See
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/11/30/salary/
Upton
> Whoever reads this and does not have deeper insights into the workings
of the OSMF must get into the impression that HOT is an official part
of the OSMF / OpenStreetMap, i.e. OSM is collaborating with FB.
Well that very well might be true about perception. But Facebook did
not say that OSMF
On 26/07/2019 10:46, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
I'd like to distinguish between two kinds of gate on private roads:
- those where the gate is closed by default (eg automatic closing)
- those where the gate is open by default (the gate exists, but is
rarely if ever closed)
I'd suggest
If a gate opens automatically I would say it's an access=yes regardless of how
the way is tagged.
Cheers
Andy
-Original Message-
From: Stephen Colebourne [mailto:scolebou...@joda.org]
Sent: 26 July 2019 10:47
To: talk-gb OSM List
Subject: [Talk-GB] Gates open/closed by default
I'd
>From Christoph...
> The corporate appropriation of OpenStreetMap and the OSM community has
> meanwhile all the characteristics of a cult .. But i have strong doubts
> meanwhile that arguing with people who are fully immersed into the belief
> system of corporate PR regarding OSM is of
I'd like to distinguish between two kinds of gate on private roads:
- those where the gate is closed by default (eg automatic closing)
- those where the gate is open by default (the gate exists, but is
rarely if ever closed)
Currently I'm marking both as barrier=gate & access=private, but I
> A blue raised pavement marker denotes a fire hydrant on the left sidewalk.
Dans ta propale, ce ne serait pas plutôt right ou c'est en Grande-Bretagne.
Ce qui est ru ou fossé drainant n'est pas forcément identifiable par imagerie
satellite notamment à cause du couvert.
Et si les données OD les
@mikel in Fakeboosts own blog post there is still the misrepresentation of
the role OSM plays in this project, due to HOT appearing to be an official
OSM body (by the mere utilization of the OpenStreetMap trademark in their
company name):
“The RapiD tool was developed in conjunction with those in
i share the thoughts and concerns shared by Christoph. It's not
surprisingly that most of these companies are "tied" or are
client/service providers of each other, some are even Corporate members
of OSMF. Who would bite the hand the feeds?
Blaming third party media outlets, when Facebook
Bonjour
milles excuses si le sujet a déjà été abordé sur la mailing liste.
L'ONF mets à disposition un jeu de données georeferences sur les forêts publiques https://www.data.gouv.fr/fr/datasets/forets-publiques-diffusion-publique/
mais je n'en trouve aucune trace sur openstreetmaps, cad
Bonjour,
Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 469 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître
*en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur :
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/12246/
Bonne lecture !
Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note
hebdomadaire sans être
Bonjour,
Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 469 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître
*en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur :
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/12246/
Bonne lecture !
Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note
hebdomadaire sans être
Bonjour,
Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 469 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître
*en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur :
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/12246/
Bonne lecture !
Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note
hebdomadaire sans être
Bonjour,
Le résumé hebdomadaire n° 469 de l'actualité OpenStreetMap vient de paraître
*en français*. Un condensé à retrouver sur :
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/fr/archives/12246/
Bonne lecture !
Saviez-vous que vous pouvez vous aussi soumettre des messages pour la note
hebdomadaire sans être
Am Fr., 26. Juli 2019 um 10:31 Uhr schrieb Andreas Lattmann <
andrea.lattm...@ga-2.it>:
> La realtà è che il sentiero esiste ancora, non è stato cancellato.
>
+1, posso capire che non si può più seguire il sentiero e arrivare dove una
volta si arrivava, ma le interruzzioni saranno soltanto
On Friday 26 July 2019, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>
> This is probably normal for corporate PR people, but for me it's just
> disgusting.
And in that conflict in my eyes you can see the core of the problem.
The corporate appropriation of OpenStreetMap and the OSM community has
meanwhile all the
>...ma che chi lo vedrà sula mappa come lo interpreterà???
>...ora sulla mia mappa sparirà ma chi lo >guarderà sul cessofono come fara a
>capire che da li non ci si passa???
Se sul cessofono hanno una buona app, non avranno problemi ne di routing ne di
rappresentazione, visto che verrà
On 26/07/19 18:11, Aleksandar Matejevic (E-Search) via Talk-au wrote:
Still lot of questions remain,
Keep asking.
Government data is not "The Holly Bible" but it sure is a great
indicator of road importance.
It is a guide.
Better than satellite imagery for things that are too similar
Dear all,
yesterday, I have discovered with much pleasure numerous projects
relate to OSM at OSOC2019 (Open summer of code) public presentation.
See https://2019.opensummerofcode.be/2019
I have been really impressed by
* https://2019.opensummerofcode.be/2019/open-heritage-map
*
This is just another badly written article by a third party. As someone else on
thread said, hardly the first time a media piece gets OSM wrong.
Take a look at facebook’s own words here
https://tech.fb.com/ai-is-supercharging-the-creation-of-maps-around-the-world/
I’m sure there’s plenty of
Bonjour à toutes et à tous,Vous avez peut-être entendu parler de l'école
d'été du numérique qui aura lieu à Port au Prince du 20 au 23 Août.
L'organisateur (en cc) cherche un fournisseur d'accès internet, de préférence
libre. Il lui faudrait une connexion pour 50 personnes pendant trois
Like Warin mentioned, you have government data which indicates roads priority.
For NSW that is LPI NSW Basemap, for other territories shp of routes. It is not
a deal breaker, but it would be nice to unify the data. Warin example for
tertiary roads is just one of them but great one, because if
Il 25/07/19 23:43, scratera ha scritto:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/45.8923/11.1345
> ...quello che mi fa paura e che li c'è ora un sentiero taggato con
> access=no
> bicycle=no
> foot=no
> highway=path
> horse=no
> mtb:scale=2
> note=impraticabile causa tempesta VAIA
>
Hi,
On 25.07.19 22:03, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> This press release is on the same level as "Cloudmade's
> OpenStreetMap Project" so many years ago.
In case anyone doubts that -
https://www.digitalinformationworld.com/2019/07/facebook-ai-is-supercharging-the-creation-of-maps-around-the-world.html
Hoi,
Er zijn nog drie pagina's op de openstreetmap.be website die vertaald
moeten worden naar het Nederlands. Als iemand daar even tijd voor heeft, de
details staan hier:
https://github.com/osmbe/website/issues
Als er iets niet duidelijk is, laat maar weten.
(mail in Dutch since it's about
sent from a phone
> On 26. Jul 2019, at 08:28, Andrea Albani wrote:
>
> Ok... Cosa proponi di usare quindi in questi casi? Un obstacle blocca
> l'accesso nel punto in cui viene posizionato, ma se qui vuoi indicare che la
> strada non è proprio da prendere?
se la strada è da prendere o
Il ven 26 lug 2019, 08:28 Andrea Albani ha scritto:
>
>
>
> Ok... Cosa proponi di usare quindi in questi casi? Un obstacle blocca
> l'accesso nel punto in cui viene posizionato, ma se qui vuoi indicare che
> la strada non è proprio da prendere?
>
Premesso che a me la proposta di Scratera non
Il ven 26 lug 2019, 06:59 solitone ha scritto:
>
> > On 25 Jul 2019, at 22:09, Andrea Albani wrote:
> >
> > Se non è più percorribile lo segno come tale con gli appositi tag...
> Access=no e description=sentiero inagibile, etc.
>
> Secondo me access=no (come foot=no. bicycle=no) non sono
sent from a phone
> On 26. Jul 2019, at 06:59, solitone wrote:
>
> Secondo me access=no (come foot=no. bicycle=no) non sono adeguati per
> specificare la percorribilità di un sentiero. Quei tag servono infatti per
> specificare le possibilità di accesso da un punto di vista *legale*:
+1,
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