Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim - censorship at github pages

Hi Mariusz, > I criticized that this important service is being neglected and is maintained in a way which makes it quite impossible to contribute to. >... >Can somebody tell me why it is that? > ... imho: my favorite on this topics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Nonviolent_Communication and

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim - censorship at github pages

On Monday 26 March 2018, cm-sani...@wp.pl wrote: > [...] In my opinion the fact I am not > liked by the maintainers, shouldnt result in deleting my on > topic comments. Is there some oversight over moderation? Can I > somehow repeal the decision? Or at least get some explanation why my > comment

[OSM-talk] Nominatim - censorship at github pages

Hi, Some time ago on this mailing list I expressed concern about the way Nominatim is being maintained. In short, I criticized that this important service is being neglected and is maintained in a way which makes it quite impossible to contribute to. My opinion meet with hostility (which I dont

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:59:31AM +0100, Maarten Deen wrote: > On 2018-02-19 10:17, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 08:12:45PM +0100, Maarten Deen wrote: > > > On 2018-02-18 20:07, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Maarten Deen > > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

Thanks, Sarah! That really helps to start contributing. Regards, Gustavo On 19-02-2018 09:31, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 08:15:57PM +, Jorge Gustavo Rocha wrote: >> >> >> On 18-02-2018 19:21, Milo van der Linden wrote: >>> With 103 open issues and 12 open pull requests,

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On 2018-02-19 10:17, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 08:12:45PM +0100, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2018-02-18 20:07, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Maarten Deen > wrote: > > > On 2018-02-18 19:28, Tom Hughes wrote: > > I can't comment about

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 08:15:57PM +, Jorge Gustavo Rocha wrote: > > > On 18-02-2018 19:21, Milo van der Linden wrote: > > With 103 open issues and 12 open pull requests, I would love to > > volunteer to at least help get those cleared first. Given the (very > > positive, I am glad so many

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 08:12:45PM +0100, Maarten Deen wrote: > On 2018-02-18 20:07, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Maarten Deen > > wrote: > > > > > On 2018-02-18 19:28, Tom Hughes wrote: > > > > I can't comment about how the algorithm works because

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

> > Have a look at the OSMF board, a mixed bunch of people elected by the > members. Are you sure that a seasoned developer or sysadmin would even > *want* a paid job where they are subject to the whims of an elected > board, with a potentially modified "strategy" year after year (as > majorities

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page / Serges blog post

Maybe it would be a good idea for everybody to take a deep breath and count to 10? For those relatively new to the project you should know that Serge has been going on about these "issues" for years, some since I first had the pleasure of  meeting him. That doesn't  mean that his points are more

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

Jason, On 02/18/2018 08:07 PM, Jason Remillard wrote: > There is plenty of money around this space to pay for a full time > system administrator staff and some developers. Pokémon Go netted 600 > million dollars in the first three months. Mapbox just go $164 million > dollar investment. I don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On 18-02-2018 19:21, Milo van der Linden wrote: > With 103 open issues and 12 open pull requests, I would love to > volunteer to at least help get those cleared first. Given the (very > positive, I am glad so many people are acting on this thread) > activity, I think if everybody lends a couple

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On 18 February 2018 at 19:07, Jason Remillard wrote: > Hi Grant, > > If you read Serge's post, he is quite clear on what his preferred > solution to this resourcing problem. Our tiles and Nominatim services > should have terms of services that include paid higher levels

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

With 103 open issues and 12 open pull requests, I would love to volunteer to at least help get those cleared first. Given the (very positive, I am glad so many people are acting on this thread) activity, I think if everybody lends a couple of hours of code this week we can get nominatim ready to

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On 2018-02-18 20:07, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2018-02-18 19:28, Tom Hughes wrote: I can't comment about how the algorithm works because I don't know anything about it. I'm just saying that we do tell it the viewbox It

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

Hi Grant, If you read Serge's post, he is quite clear on what his preferred solution to this resourcing problem. Our tiles and Nominatim services should have terms of services that include paid higher levels that support the foundation, which in turn pays for the infrastructure. When somebody is

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Maarten Deen wrote: > On 2018-02-18 19:28, Tom Hughes wrote: > >> On 18/02/18 18:04, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> OK, so what can we do about this problem? For example, go to Jenks, >>> Oklahoma. Search for Walmart. First result isn't the

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On 2018-02-18 19:28, Tom Hughes wrote: On 18/02/18 18:04, Paul Johnson wrote:  OK, so what can we do about this problem?  For example, go to Jenks, Oklahoma.  Search for Walmart.  First result isn't the Walmart Neighborhood Market across the street from the Riverside Market shopping center. 

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On 18/02/18 18:40, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Tom Hughes > wrote: On 18/02/18 18:05, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Grant Slater

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 18/02/18 18:05, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Grant Slater < >> openstreet...@firefishy.com > wrote: >> >> How about someone in the community organises a

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On 18/02/18 18:05, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Grant Slater > wrote: How about someone in the community organises a Beauty Parade / Cross Comparison of different open OpenStreetMap GeoCoders?

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On 18/02/18 18:04, Paul Johnson wrote:  OK, so what can we do about this problem?  For example, go to Jenks, Oklahoma.  Search for Walmart.  First result isn't the Walmart Neighborhood Market across the street from the Riverside Market shopping center.  It's not even the Walmart Supercenter

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On 18 February 2018 at 18:05, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Grant Slater > wrote: >> >> How about someone in the community organises a Beauty Parade / Cross >> Comparison of different open OpenStreetMap GeoCoders? > > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Grant Slater wrote: > > How about someone in the community organises a Beauty Parade / Cross > Comparison of different open OpenStreetMap GeoCoders? > How about search against multiple geocoders instead of just Nominatim and

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 18/02/18 17:34, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On the OSM homepage, can we use the visible area (or maybe that plus an >> exploded offset to a larger surrounding bounds) as a bonding box to be >> passed to Nominatim for some

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On 18 February 2018 at 17:34, Paul Johnson wrote: > In the diatribe (no disrespect meant, since it did bring up some relevant > points that we can use constructively, simply a description of the tone) > that emacsen posted last week that we've surely all read by now, he does

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On 18/02/18 17:45, Tom Hughes wrote: On 18/02/18 17:34, Paul Johnson wrote: On the OSM homepage, can we use the visible area (or maybe that plus an exploded offset to a larger surrounding bounds) as a bonding box to be passed to Nominatim for some context when searching?  This animation

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

On 18/02/18 17:34, Paul Johnson wrote: On the OSM homepage, can we use the visible area (or maybe that plus an exploded offset to a larger surrounding bounds) as a bonding box to be passed to Nominatim for some context when searching?  This animation really drives the problem home. We

[OSM-talk] Nominatim on the main page

In the diatribe (no disrespect meant, since it did bring up some relevant points that we can use constructively, simply a description of the tone) that emacsen posted last week that we've surely all read by now, he does bring up one point that I think we can work on for fairly immediate

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim and waterway relations, broken?

Hi, On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 11:04:30AM -0700, Ben Discoe wrote: > Nominatim has been able to find waterway relations for at least a > couple years, now. > > For example, if you search "Klamath River", Nominatim's top result is: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3624126 > > Which is

[OSM-talk] Nominatim and waterway relations, broken?

Nominatim has been able to find waterway relations for at least a couple years, now. For example, if you search "Klamath River", Nominatim's top result is: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3624126 Which is great. But two days ago, I created another river:

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim - Does it use the is_in tag?

On 16/08/2016 21:35, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: Wouldn't that lead to "mapping for the geocoder"? I'm sure that would be frowned upon as much as "mapping for the renderer". All tags are 'mapping for the renderer/geocoder/router. Otherwise you have just black lines, lots of 'You are here' signs

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim - Does it use the is_in tag?

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 09:50:05PM +0200, Hakuch wrote: > Hey Sarah, do you have documentations that explain how nominatim > processes the queries? That could be an answer to questions like that one Not really. You can have a look at the presentation I gave at SOTM Birmingham[1] but it's a bit

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim - Does it use the is_in tag?

Wouldn't that lead to "mapping for the geocoder"? I'm sure that would be frowned upon as much as "mapping for the renderer". -- Nicolás 2016-08-16 16:50 GMT-03:00 Hakuch : > Hey Sarah, do you have documentations that explain how nominatim > processes the queries? That could be

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim - Does it use the is_in tag?

Hey Sarah, do you have documentations that explain how nominatim processes the queries? That could be an answer to questions like that one On 16.08.2016 21:27, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 02:29:26PM +0100, Dave F wrote: >> Hi >> >> I've heard a claim from a user who still

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim - Does it use the is_in tag?

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 02:29:26PM +0100, Dave F wrote: > Hi > > I've heard a claim from a user who still wants to use the is_in:* > tag as well as boundary tags that Nominatim uses is_in as preference > because "geospacial mathematics is resource intensive". > > Is this true? Not at all.

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim - Does it use the is_in tag?

On 16/08/2016 16:19, Hakuch wrote: following the wiki, its not deprecated https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:is_in I was surprised when I read that the other day too... However, I really would love to see a scheme that shows how nominatim finds it results.. There's the

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim - Does it use the is_in tag?

following the wiki, its not deprecated https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:is_in However, I really would love to see a scheme that shows how nominatim finds it results.. On 16.08.2016 15:29, Dave F wrote: > Hi > > I've heard a claim from a user who still wants to use the is_in:* tag as >

[OSM-talk] Nominatim - Does it use the is_in tag?

Hi I've heard a claim from a user who still wants to use the is_in:* tag as well as boundary tags that Nominatim uses is_in as preference because "geospacial mathematics is resource intensive". Is this true? I thought geospacial calculations were fairly light on processing power. I also

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

On Thu, 24 Dec 2015 09:56:42 -0500, Greg Troxel wrote: > Saying that having an option to prefer search results in/near the > displayed map is useless because going to osm.org defaults to one's > last view just does not make sense.It would be perfectly > reasonable for someone to first find a

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

openlinkmap.org has such a box (search only in current map view). I assume it is using nominatim for obtaining the data. regards m. On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Stephan Knauss wrote: > > > On December 24, 2015 11:21:22 AM GMT+01:00, malenki wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

On December 24, 2015 11:21:22 AM GMT+01:00, malenki wrote: >Because I know of the fallability of men and IT when I search for >anything depending on a location I always give the location, too. Does nominatim support phrases like "nearby" or "near me"? If we don't pass the

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 09:07:18 -0500, John Goodman wrote: > I've tried searching on plenty of common stores and businesses that > the average user here in the US might -- Dunkin' Donuts, Kohl's, > PetSmart, Lowe's, Dollar Tree, Sports Authority, Red Roof Inn -- and > the matching location that is

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

malenki writes: > Do you realize that the map usually shows the region you did look at > last? This may not necessarily be the region you want to have searched > at thus making a "search on displayed map" quite useless. > Sure looking at the location of the users IP address may

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 07:41:14PM +, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 14 December 2015 at 08:25, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: > > > Some helpful person has put a wikipedia link to the Starbucks > > wikipedia page on every single Starbucks in Japan. > > That sounds like something that

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 02:13:06AM +, Dave F. wrote: > On 14/12/2015 08:25, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: > > > >Some helpful person has put a wikipedia link to the Starbucks > >wikipedia page on every single Starbucks in Japan. That's what > >throwing off Nominatim. Having a wikipedia page boosts the

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Dave F. wrote: > On 14/12/2015 08:25, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: > >> >> Some helpful person has put a wikipedia link to the Starbucks >> wikipedia page on every single Starbucks in Japan. That's what >> throwing off Nominatim. Having a

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

On 15/12/15 16:37, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: >> Do end users want to find a coffee shop local to them or one >> thousands of kilometres away just because it has an extra tag >> attached? > > I sincerely hope not. > > Given that we have a simple data issue at hand here and that > the target audience

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

On 14/12/2015 08:25, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: Some helpful person has put a wikipedia link to the Starbucks wikipedia page on every single Starbucks in Japan. That's what throwing off Nominatim. Having a wikipedia page boosts the importance of an object. Have you considered that the program is

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 09:37:42AM +0100, Simon Poole wrote: > Sigh, this could easily be the silliest thread ever on talk. > > See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim#Parameters > > In general for POI search in an area I would suggest using > OverPass/OverPass Turbo (note however that

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

Hi, I think that we can add an option to bound the results to the current viewport. That option would be passed to nominatim or any other search engine. Personally, I would prefer the search bounded by default, but users could change it to "everywhere" to see additional results. Regards,

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

On 2015-12-14 09:25, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 05:52:21PM -0500, John Goodman wrote: Am I missing something, or is there no way to sort Nominatim searches on the main OpenStreetMap map page? For example, if my map is showing an area of the United States where I happen to

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

On 14/12/15 09:00, Maarten Deen wrote: > IMHO it is a programming error on the account of importance. No amount > of importance could be so great that local results get flooded and > pushed down so much in importance. > In the Netherlands there is one Starbucks I believe (Schiphol Airport) > and

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 10:04 GMT+01:00 Sarah Hoffmann : > If you type in 'Starbucks' in the search box, then you just get > objects named that way. No difference with searching for, say Berlin. > > Now, if you type 'cafes' in the search box, then you are probably > looking for all

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

> Op 14 dec. 2015, om 10:00 heeft Maarten Deen het volgende > geschreven: > > In the Netherlands there is one Starbucks I believe (Schiphol Airport) and > even standing at that location does not return it in the search. I’m in no way connected to Starbucks, but your

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

It would be nice to have some shades of grey in there, like a choice of radius, e.g. within 1km, 10km, 100km, 1000km On 2015-12-14 13:43, Jorge Gustavo Rocha wrote: > Hi, > > I think that we can add an option to bound the results to the current > viewport. That option would be passed to

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

Could there also be sorting options for the result set? For example by distance (nearest first), importance (the current algorithm?), ... And how about filters to show what you are looking for: returning places, POIs, roads, ... //colin On 2015-12-14 13:43, Jorge Gustavo Rocha wrote: > Hi, >

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

> To make a long story short: it's a tagging error. The wikipedia tag > should contain only links to wikipedia pages describing the object > not to pages about the operator. Sorry, I'm with Maarten on this: it's a programming error. I've tried searching on plenty of common stores and businesses

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

Please avoid being gratuitously offensive by describing something that lots of volunteers have put countless hours into as "braindead". No offense meant; it just seemed an apt term for a search algorithm that favors matches 15,000 km away from one right in the area of obvious interest. As

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

John Goodman wrote: > And if its searching facility is braindead Please avoid being gratuitously offensive by describing something that lots of volunteers have put countless hours into as "braindead". Thank you. Richard -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim is awesome

On 14/12/15 18:14, John Goodman wrote: >> Please avoid being gratuitously offensive by describing something >> that lots >> of volunteers have put countless hours into as "braindead". > > No offense meant; it just seemed an apt term for a search algorithm > that favors matches 15,000 km away from

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

Would it not simply be sufficient to list viewport results at the top, ie having a 'local' and 'global' list? Possibly in a small 'tree' view, in the sense of being able to hide 'local' and 'global' matches separately? (eg little triangles rotating to indicate if they're shown) Selecting other

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 05:52:21PM -0500, John Goodman wrote: > Am I missing something, or is there no way to sort Nominatim > searches on the main OpenStreetMap map page? > > For example, if my map is showing an area of the United States where > I happen to know a mapped Starbucks exists, and I

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 08:45:38AM +0100, Maarten Deen wrote: > On 2015-12-14 01:02, Tom Hughes wrote: > >On 13/12/15 22:52, John Goodman wrote: > > > >>For example, if my map is showing an area of the United States where I > >>happen to know a mapped Starbucks exists, and I search for "Starbucks"

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

Sigh, this could easily be the silliest thread ever on talk. See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim#Parameters In general for POI search in an area I would suggest using OverPass/OverPass Turbo (note however that this has the same issue as a bounded Nominatim POI search in that it will

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

On 2015-12-14 09:34, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 08:45:38AM +0100, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2015-12-14 01:02, Tom Hughes wrote: >On 13/12/15 22:52, John Goodman wrote: > >>For example, if my map is showing an area of the United States where I >>happen to know a mapped Starbucks

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 9:25 GMT+01:00 Sarah Hoffmann : > To make a long story short: it's a tagging error. The wikipedia tag > should contain only links to wikipedia pages describing the object > not to pages about the operator. > +1, to tag the operator the key operator:wikipedia (or

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

Hi, On 12/14/2015 01:44 AM, Jorge Gustavo Rocha wrote: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/geocoder/search_osm_nominatim?query=Rua+Dom+Jorge=1=18=-8.404905796051025=41.54643215639179=-8.40179979801178=41.55020598611987 This seems to translate internally to a Nominatim parameter setting of

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

Nomination POI searches do not use the bounding box and that is not exactly news. On 14. Dezember 2015 01:04:38 MEZ, Mike N wrote: >On 12/13/2015 6:47 PM, Jorge Gustavo Rocha wrote: >> ii) Nominatim can search only within a bounding box. You can get the >map >> extent and

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

Hi, When searching in openstreetmap.org, two requests are performed. These requests are handled on the server side: http://www.openstreetmap.org/geocoder/search_osm_nominatim?query=Rua+Dom+Jorge=1=18=-8.404905796051025=41.54643215639179=-8.40179979801178=41.55020598611987

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

On 12/13/2015 6:47 PM, Jorge Gustavo Rocha wrote: ii) Nominatim can search only within a bounding box. You can get the map extent and append to the nominatim query (viewboxlbrt parameter). Why does the default OSM search box include the world instead of the viewport? Is it because no one

[OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

Am I missing something, or is there no way to sort Nominatim searches on the main OpenStreetMap map page? For example, if my map is showing an area of the United States where I happen to know a mapped Starbucks exists, and I search for "Starbucks" in the search panel, the entire panel is

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

Hi John, i) There is no "competitor's map". The value of OSM is the data, not the map. You can create tons of different maps with OSM data. Said that, you can create a website with more features than the "competitor's map". Feel free to do so. You can use the OSM data. ii) Nominatim can

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

On 14/12/15 00:04, Mike N wrote: On 12/13/2015 6:47 PM, Jorge Gustavo Rocha wrote: ii) Nominatim can search only within a bounding box. You can get the map extent and append to the nominatim query (viewboxlbrt parameter). Why does the default OSM search box include the world instead of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

On 13/12/15 22:52, John Goodman wrote: For example, if my map is showing an area of the United States where I happen to know a mapped Starbucks exists, and I search for "Starbucks" in the search panel, the entire panel is filled with Starbucks in Japan. Do the same on a "competitor's" map, and

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

On 2015-12-14 01:02, Tom Hughes wrote: On 13/12/15 22:52, John Goodman wrote: For example, if my map is showing an area of the United States where I happen to know a mapped Starbucks exists, and I search for "Starbucks" in the search panel, the entire panel is filled with Starbucks in Japan.

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim

On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 04:43:15PM -0800, Clifford Snow wrote: When searching for a point of interest, such as Guild 45th Theatre in Seattle, Nominatim return the following: Cinema Guild 45th Theatre, North 45th Street, Fremont, Wallingford, Seattle, King, Washington, 98103, United States

[OSM-talk] Nominatim

When searching for a point of interest, such as Guild 45th Theatre in Seattle, Nominatim return the following: Cinema Guild 45th Theatre, North 45th Street, Fremont, Wallingford, Seattle, King, Washington, 98103, United States of America. But the POI is also contained within a building outline

[OSM-talk] Nominatim data and code updates

tl;dr: nominatim is updated (data and code), add wikipedia tags and label/admin_centre relation member to improve search quality. As some of you may have noticed Sarah (lonvia) has been busy updating the openstreetmap nominatim instance. It should now be fully up to date and back running live

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim data and code updates

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 26/08/12 15:49, Brian Quinion wrote: tl;dr: nominatim is updated (data and code), add wikipedia tags and label/admin_centre relation member to improve search quality. As some of you may have noticed Sarah (lonvia) has been busy updating

[OSM-talk] Nominatim and language tags

Hi, We are doing some work to improve the linking of name and name:xx tags in nominatim (basically adding better language fall backs) but in order to do that we need to have a list of which OFFICIAL languages are used in which countries. Since we've been unable to find such a resource I've

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim and language tags

On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:16:45 Brian Quinion wrote: Hi, We are doing some work to improve the linking of name and name:xx tags in nominatim (basically adding better language fall backs) but in order to do that we need to have a list of which OFFICIAL languages are used in which countries. snip

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim and language tags

Hi Brian. I would simply pull these information from Wikipedia, where the Country-Template includes the official language. Therefore it should be straight forward to fetch them - automatically or manually. Nevertheless the question is: What about countries with more than one official

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim and language tags

Brian Quinion wrote: Official languages only (i.e. ones that are used on signs in that country) Presumably you don't want political official languages - i.e. languages that are official but almost no-one speaks as a first language. Cheers, Andy

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim and language tags

2012/2/17 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de: Hi Brian. I would simply pull these information from Wikipedia, where the Country-Template includes the official language. Therefore it should be straight forward to fetch them - automatically or manually. Nevertheless the question is:

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim and language tags

On 17/02/2012 14:08, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: What is the official language? This is not always unambigous for every part of the national territory. Even in Germany with few minorities there are exceptions (e.g. [1] de: Mittlerweile lautet der § 184 des Gerichtsverfassungsgesetzes: „Die

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim and language tags

On 17 February 2012 14:24, Steve Doerr doerr.step...@gmail.com wrote: On 17/02/2012 14:08, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: What is the official language? This is not always unambigous for every part of the national territory. Even in Germany with few minorities there are exceptions (e.g. [1] de:

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim and language tags

There needs to be a means of using at least 2 languages, and possibly a means to know which areas use which language. In Wales, you can usually tell whether you are in a Welsh speaking area by the order of Araf and Slow painted onto the road. Afaf on top, it Welsh. Slow on top then its English

[OSM-talk] Nominatim updates paused

Hi, The live install of nominatim has run out of integers on it's primary key and the database is being updated to use bigint. Sorry for the lack of notice - this rather caught me by surprise! Until this is completed there will be no updates. Because of the size of the database and the

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim updates

Hi Brian, Such requests used to work some time ago : http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search?q=fuelnearlat=43.5nearlon=7format=xml But now there are errors as soon as I try to use a spatial constraint in the search. Perhaps the DB had lost some spatial indexes when Nominatim was migrated ?

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim updates

For me, reverse lookups are completely wrong right now. (I haven't tried forward lookups). And the status indication on nominatim.openstreetmap.org is blank. So I figure he's doing a DB rebuild or something. http://osm.org/?lat=-25.797306lon=28.289618zoom=18

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim updates

Hi, http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search?q=fuelnearlat=43.5nearlon=7format=xml Is there any plan to bring this kind of (very useful !) search back ? I've fixed this - a column had changed name - thanks for the bug report. BTW - you may find that using the new bounded=1 option provides

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim updates

On 28 January 2011 14:47, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: For me, reverse lookups are completely wrong right now. (I haven't tried forward lookups). And the status indication on nominatim.openstreetmap.org is blank. So I figure he's doing a DB rebuild or something.

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim updates

Thanks for the quick response and fix ! I'll try viewbox, bounded and [], thank you. Vlad. On 28 janv. 2011, at 16:10, Brian Quinion wrote: Hi, http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search?q=fuelnearlat=43.5nearlon=7format=xml Is there any plan to bring this kind of (very useful !) search

[OSM-talk] Nominatim updates

Hi, On Monday morning I'm intending to switching the existing nominatim service over to an updated code base designed to allow better scaling and additional data sources (tiger, external postcode sets, etc) as well as being the first stage of various other improvements. With any luck the only

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim updates

On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:55 PM, Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk wrote: Hi, On Monday morning I'm intending to switching the existing nominatim service over to an updated code base designed to allow better scaling and additional data sources (tiger, external postcode sets,

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim US places

* Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com [2011-01-03 22:19 -0500]: Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net writes: this is why i suggested adding a centroid tag to the boundary relations as a way to convey the place that is by convention considered the center of town. The word centroid seems best

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim US places

The boundary relation[0] has roles for both admin_centre and label, though I don't know how many renderers are using them currently. For some reason, a lot of places (including the US) seem to have standardized on using multipolygons instead of boundary relations for administrative boundaries.

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim US places

On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 05:50:16PM +, Shaun McDonald wrote: so should we be 1) adding explicit info to ways about town/county No, that causes huge amounts of duplicate info that is difficult to update. or 2) fixing county town boundary relations This is much better.

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim US places

On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 03:24:34PM -0600, Toby Murray wrote: On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be wrote: Having a node to indicate the center of a town/city/... can be useful too, even if you already have a boundary for it. It seems like duplicate information to me.

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