Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-11 Thread Lester Caine
On 11/05/15 02:07, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I expect to see Xxzme back under a different username soon. This is the real problem. While it is now common for people to hide behind anonymous nicknames on the internet, it is certainly not courteous these days since it does prevent proper interaction on

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-11 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 05/11/2015 03:07 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Of the dozens of people interacting with Xxzme, none had the authority or position to issue such a *recent, clear and unequivocal warning*. What exactly constitutes a warning matching these three adjectives, or whether a warning needs to match

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-11 Thread Lester Caine
On 11/05/15 09:39, Elena ``of Valhalla'' wrote: On 2015-05-11 at 08:41:48 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: On 11/05/15 02:07, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I expect to see Xxzme back under a different username soon. This is the real problem. While it is now common for people to hide behind anonymous

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-11 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2015-05-11 at 08:41:48 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: On 11/05/15 02:07, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I expect to see Xxzme back under a different username soon. This is the real problem. While it is now common for people to hide behind anonymous nicknames on the internet, it is certainly not

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andy Mabbett wrote: In the absence of blatant vandalism or base abuse, I would have expected, first, a recent, clear and unequivocal warning on the user's talk page No. Please remember that the primary means of discussion and consensus in OSM is mailing lists, even when the subject is the

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 3:39 AM, Elena ``of Valhalla'' elena.valha...@gmail.com wrote: On 2015-05-11 at 08:41:48 +0100, Lester Caine wrote: On 11/05/15 02:07, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I expect to see Xxzme back under a different username soon. This is the real problem. While it is now

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-11 Thread Harry Wood
rich...@systemed.net To: talk@openstreetmap.org Cc: Sent: Monday, 11 May 2015, 10:08 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki Andy Mabbett wrote: In the absence of blatant vandalism or base abuse, I would have expected, first, a recent, clear and unequivocal warning on the user's talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-11 Thread pmailkeey .
On 11 May 2015 at 17:39, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 11 May 2015 at 10:08, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Andy Mabbett wrote: In the absence of blatant vandalism or base abuse, I would have expected, first, a recent, clear and unequivocal warning on

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 11 May 2015 at 15:13, Harry Wood m...@harrywood.co.uk wrote: I have now written some justification for the ban, as I see it, on his talk page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Xxzme#Blocked_for_3_months Thank you. I've replied there, since my reply is addressed as much to

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 11 May 2015 at 10:08, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Andy Mabbett wrote: In the absence of blatant vandalism or base abuse, I would have expected, first, a recent, clear and unequivocal warning on the user's talk page No. Please remember that the primary means of discussion

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-10 Thread jgpacker
That's the closest that I found right now: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Xxzmediff=prevoldid=1160164 I don't know what falls unders base abuse, but although Xxzme didn't directly insult anyone since the last ban, he still wrote false or misleading statements in edit

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 10 May 2015 at 23:15, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: In the absence of blatant vandalism or base abuse, I would have expected, first, a recent, clear and unequivocal warning on the user's talk page, with a suitably direct subject heading (Warning: you may be blocked from

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-10 Thread Warin
Congratulations, Andy. On 11/05/2015 1:11 AM, Grant Slater wrote: Hi Andy, I no longer have sufficient time to administer the wiki and to review cases thoroughly. User:Lyx has done a great job in my absence, but he could use additional help. I am going to focus my available time on OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-10 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 10 May 2015 at 23:15, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: Xxzme had plenty of warning. I see no *recent, clear and unequivocal warning*; perhaps you could point me to it; bearing in mind my comment: It

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-10 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 5:47 AM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 10 May 2015 at 11:40, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Consulting with a few other users, I have gone ahead and blocked the user.

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 10 May 2015 at 11:40, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Consulting with a few other users, I have gone ahead and blocked the user. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:BlockList?wpTarget=Xxzme In the absence of blatant vandalism or base abuse, I would have expected,

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ilya Zverev wrote: Who banned Xxzme in wiki a while ago? Please do it again. Seconded. Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Please-ban-Xxzme-in-wiki-tp5843984p5843986.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-10 Thread Grant Slater
Hi Ilya, Consulting with a few other users, I have gone ahead and blocked the user. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:BlockList?wpTarget=Xxzme His last block was for a month. I have given him a 3 month block this time. Kind regards, Grant On 10 May 2015 at 11:14, Ilya Zverev

[OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-10 Thread Ilya Zverev
Hi, Who banned Xxzme in wiki a while ago? Please do it again. Not only he abuses mappers, in part by deleting parts of their pages in private namespaces, he also renames and/or modifies in a bad way wiki pages that many mappers link to. E.g. there is no How we map page now. This is not his

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-10 Thread Grant Slater
Hi Andy, I no longer have sufficient time to administer the wiki and to review cases thoroughly. User:Lyx has done a great job in my absence, but he could use additional help. I am going to focus my available time on OSM hardware other operational work. Andy, I have now made you an

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-10 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 05/10/2015 02:47 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: Finally since the current bock includes email disabled, cannot edit own talk page (were either of those privileges ever abused? If not, that part of the block should be rescinded ASAP.), it does not seem possible for Xxzme to discuss how they

Re: [OSM-talk] Please ban Xxzme in wiki

2015-05-10 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 10 May 2015, Andy Mabbett wrote: In the absence of blatant vandalism or base abuse, I would have expected, first, a recent, clear and unequivocal warning on the user's talk page, with a suitably direct subject heading (Warning: you may be blocked from editing, or suchlike), and a