Kevin Deegan wrote:
So could you tell me what the difference is between you and our
Mormon friends?
LDS believe the bible "as far as it is translated correctly"
DAVEH: And you don't, Kevin? Do you really believe all parts of the
Bible were translated correctly?
LDS believe that
1) I believe it true
Prov 30:4 EVERY Word of God is pure
2) My God is not a pipsqueak at peril of menperverting His plans or His purpose
eg someone lost 115 pages, but it was not the God of the Bible. It was the god of the BoM
Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin Deegan wrote:
So could
Lance wrote:
Sorry but, did you just accuse Caroline of Wong doctrine?
LOL! Sometimes it is a real pleasure having you around, Lance. :-)
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know
how you ought to answer every
: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment Begins at the House of God
Lance wrote:
Sorry but, did you just accuse Caroline of Wong doctrine?
LOL! Sometimes it is a real pleasure having you around, Lance. :-)
Peace be with you.
David Miller.
--
Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt
Caroline wrote:
Didn't Jesus say ... anyone who says, 'You fool!'
will be in danger of the fire of hell.
Yes he did, Caroline. Compare that with the following passages:
Matthew 23:17-19
(17) Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple
that sanctifieth the gold?
(18)
,
Caroline
- Original Message -
From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment Begins at the House of God
Caroline wrote:
They added the words without cause because they
could not let go of their own
@mail.innglory.org
Sent: April 23, 2005 22:10
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment Begins at the House of God
Debbie wrote:
I overstated it when I said that there is absolutely no
difference between #$% you and You are of your
father the devil. I really meant they are potentially
David wrote:
These two actions are not always the same thing. Jesus called people
fools,
but he did not have a murdering and hateful attitude towards them.
Caroline:
Didn't Jesus say You have heard that it was said to the people long ago,
'Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject
NO that is not what Jesus said unless you have one of those PERVERT Bibles.
In the "newe" versions it just says '"But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment" (leaving out without a cause)
THEREBY the "scholars" make Jesus a sinner in danger of HELL Fire!
Sorry but, did you just accuse Caroline of Wong
doctrine?
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: April 24, 2005 08:34
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment
Begins at the House of God
NO that is not what Jesus
t of
them and they don'tget it.
Love,
Caroline
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 7:34
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment Begins
at the House of God
NO that is not what Jesus said unles
don'tget it.
Love,
Caroline
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment Begins at the House of God
NO that is not what Jesus said unless you have one of those PERVERT Bibles.
In the "ne
or eternal life and here he is standing in front of them and they don'tget it.
Love,
Caroline
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment Begins at the House of God
NO that is not what
ointed out that Pharisees had searched scripture looking for eternal life and here he is standing in front of them and they don'tget it.
Love,
Caroline
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgm
You would truly have a holey bible if you did that.
- Original Message -
From:
Kevin
Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 3:25
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment Begins
at the House of God
So the answer to all
a holey bible if you did that.
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment Begins at the House of God
So the answer to all this is that it is the KJV that is in error. How foolish of me,
Of Caroline Wong
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:03 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment Begins at the House of God
David wrote:
These two actions are not always the same thing. Jesus called people
fools,
but he did not have a murdering and hateful attitude towards them
Judy, you'repartly right: I overstated it
when I saidthat there is absolutely nodifference between "#$%
you" and "You are of your father the devil". I really meant they are potentially
the same when used to express a certain attitude towards the other person and
ourselves.The same in the
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:52:50 -0400 "Debbie Sawczak" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy, you'repartly right: I overstated it
when I saidthat there is absolutely nodifference between "#$%
you" and "You are of your father the devil". I really meant they are
potentially the same when used
Sorry, I meant Romans 8:33, 34!
Debbie
- Original Message -
From:
Judy
Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:36
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment Begins
at the House of God
Debbie wrote:
I overstated it when I said that there is absolutely no
difference between #$% you and You are of your
father the devil. I really meant they are potentially the
same when used to express a certain attitude towards
the other person and ourselves.
So do you believe that Jesus was
a fool and
murdering him are the same. In other words, with the same caveats you are
making below.
Debbie
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From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment Begins at the House
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 08:22:42 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 1/28/2005 5:11:05 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Izzy wrote: They werent the first to goJudy
is gone, too.John wote: Not before she did her damage.John,
please do not disparage Judy. This
as human adults, let's try to
differentiate betw a person (as'the..problem') andthe (perhaps
solvable)problem per se
let ideas
conflict
focus on a possible ideological
solution; post it--see what flies toward reality
toapply force, resolutely,
tothe solvable, or, to the conflict/s as
..how many Messianic moderators
actuallysolvingppl problemscan there be?
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 17:20:14 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 04:25:04 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes,
apparently quoting Pastor Smithson:
[jt]was not the only
In a message dated 9/25/2004 6:24:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
15 "Beware of th[ose who].. (12) inwardly are (13) ravenous wolves.
16 "You will (14) know them by their [works]:
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22 "(19) Many will say to Me on (20) that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not .. in Your
In a message dated 9/24/2004 8:02:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Brother John, no one in this world hopes that Jesus is far more forgiving than His Word would indicate than yours truly. My son was killed in 1985, and I do not know where his spirit resides at this time. All
Brother John, no one in
this world hopes that Jesus is far more forgiving than His Word would indicate
than yours truly. My son was killed in 1985, and I do not know where his
spirit resides at this time. All I know is that wherever my son is
spending eternity, God did what was
John, You obviously have not heeded my urging to read The
Visions of Sandhu Sundar Singh. Izzy
Sorry. I just thought you were kidding. If serious,
where do I find this publication.
John Boy
John,
There are many books about Singh if you do a Google search. You can
In a message dated 9/25/2004 4:31:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
13 "(11) Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.
14 "For the gate is small and the way is narrow that
Patience, John. Patience. J
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004
1:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment?
In a message dated 9/25/2004 4:31:46 AM Pacific Daylight
Time
Terry
Said: "For those who
have heard, eternal punishment awaits those who call Him Lord but do not do as
He says."
Slade
asks: "Can you tell me how Torah Observance fits into your above
comment?
Slade Henson wrote:
Terry Said: "For those who have heard, eternal punishment
awaits those who call Him Lord but do not do as He says."
Slade asks: "Can you tell me how Torah
Observance fits into your above comment?
Afraid not, my friend. I have never read anything about a
15 "Beware of th[ose who].. (12) inwardly are (13) ravenous wolves.
16 "You will (14) know them by their [works]:
||
22 "(19) Many will say to Me on (20) that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we
not.. in Your name [perform] many miracles?'
23 "I will declare to them, 'I never
knew you;..'
: Saturday, 25 September, 2004 18.52To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Judgment?Slade Henson wrote:
Terry Said: "For those who have heard, eternal punishment awaits those who call
Him Lord but do not do as He says."
Slade asks: "Can you te
Slade Henson wrote:
To answer your question, please refer to
any product in your vast library (that I KNOW you own) that lists
Strong's numbers for Hebrew words. Find the following:
H8451
I don't have the resources you seem to think I do. I have a MacArthur
study bible,
Slade Henson wrote:
To answer your question, please refer to
any product in your vast library (that I KNOW you own) that lists
Strong's numbers for Hebrew words. Find the following:
H8451
Big help!! It says decalogue or pentateuch-law. Those words are not in
my Bible either.
Did Lance send a post? Am I missing posts?
Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004
11:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment?
Have a good weekend Lance.
JD
While we are -- actually "while you are" -- are resting up from the political battles of recent times, allow me these comments about a much more important subject:
As each of us continue our search for the perfect biblical model, one that takes into account scriptural commentary, historical
We all need a plan that works when we do not. That is why
salvation apart from works is so very necessary.
Just a thought
a brother,
John Smithson
John, You obviously have not heeded my urging to read The
Visions of Sandhu Sundar Singh. Izzy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While we are -- actually "while you
are" -- are resting up from the political battles of recent times,
allow me these comments about a much more important subject:
As each of us continue our search for the perfect biblical model, one
that takes into account
In a message dated 9/24/2004 6:31:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John, You obviously have not heeded my urging to read The Visions of Sandhu Sundar Singh. Izzy
Sorry. I just thought you were kidding. If serious, where do I find this publication.
John Boy
In a message dated 9/24/2004 10:59:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You were doing pretty good up to this point my brother. The young man has a sad history, but he turned his back on God and returned to the filth and mire he had crawled out of. He not only was not willing to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 9/24/2004 10:59:19
AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You
were doing pretty good up to this point my brother. The young man has
a sad history, but he turned his back on God and returned to the filth
and mire he had crawled out
how about 'sports
talk'?
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 08:11:58 -0500 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
I owned a hot
air balloon for sport.
Have a good weekend Lance.
JD
, September 21, 2004
10:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment?
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Very funny, Dave. Actually the two people
I have known were (1) a woman who was in a quilting guild I used to belong to
whose husband had won years ago and were living a nice normal life
ShieldsFamily wrote:
I believe
the temple priests drew lots to
see which one of them would enter the Holy of Holies once/year. I
think that
gambling isnt a problem if you are losing money you can easily afford
to
lose; ie: pocket money. On the other hand, it is sinful as it
Terry Clifton wrote:
Just a
couple
of quick thoughts off the top of my head before it quits producing
thoughts for the day.
1. Buying a dream for two bucks is a bargain,
DAVEH: And cheaper than buying a politician!
not a waste.
DAVEH: If one
Dave Hansen wrote:
Terry Clifton wrote:
Just a
couple
of quick thoughts off the top of my head before it quits producing
thoughts for the day.
1. Buying a dream for two bucks is a bargain,
DAVEH: And cheaper than
there was one man who wished he hadnt chased him off from trying
to date his daughter! I thought it was cosmic justice. J Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave Hansen
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004
11:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment
Izzy in red below:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004
6:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment?
ShieldsFamily wrote:
I believe the temple priests drew lots to
see which one
Izzy in red below:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004
7:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment?
Dave Hansen wrote:
Terry Clifton wrote:
Just
Izzy in red below:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004
6:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment?
ShieldsFamily wrote:
I believe the temple priests drew lots to see
which
egory
with gambling.
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Terry
CliftonSent: Monday, 20 September, 2004 22.18To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Judgment?Slade Henson wrote:
Ho
: Monday, 20 September, 2004
23.48To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE:
[TruthTalk] Judgment?
I believe the temple
priests drew lots to see which one of them would enter the Holy of Holies
once/year. I think that gambling isnt a problem if you are losing money
you can easily afford to lose
it was cosmic justice. J Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Dave Hansen
Sent: Monday,
September 20, 2004
11:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:
[TruthTalk] Judgment?
DAVEH: I suppose the best
place to meet such
people in casinos, eh! I
Terry Clifton wrote:
Dave Hansen wrote:
Terry Clifton wrote:
Just a
couple
of quick thoughts off the top of my head before it quits producing
thoughts for the day.
1.
In a message dated 9/19/2004 1:22:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
There are certain things that we ARE able to account for. A man's penis falling off because he was a whore is a true and just reward. A woman contracting a debilitating form of arthritis due to a high pork
In a message dated 9/19/2004 4:27:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
DAVEH: Hm..Perhaps the river boats and casinos aren't the focus of the punishment..maybe it is the Christian folks on them who are drawing his wrath ;-)
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Kind of
Why would God's standard only apply to Christians? The world out there is
also responsible whether or not they realize it.
Ignorance is no protection. Lawbreakers are cursed as we write
according to God's Word.
judyt
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:29:02 -0700 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
r 19, 2004 5:20 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Judgment?
ShieldsFamily wrote:
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Around
here, the flood was called Gods answer to gambling.
Izzy
As near as I can tell Iz,
there is nothing about gambling being a sin i
Judith H Taylor wrote:
I've been at a seminar all week where they dealt with sin
issues. Not "gambling" per se but there is a spirit of addictions who
takes
a lot of ground in these scenarios. Of course there are also
addictions to alcohol, food, shopping, etc. I don't see
H
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004
9:34
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment?
I've been at a seminar all week where they dealt with sin issues.
Not "gambling" per se but there is a spirit of addictions who takes
a lot of ground in these
How
about casting lots?
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jeff
PowersSent: Monday, 20 September, 2004 18.19To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
Judgment?
OK, so I'm not aware of a verse (off the top of my
Slade Henson wrote:
How about casting lots?
==
If I remember correctly, the priests at times cast lots to determine
God's will. That was not gambling.
The soldiers who crucified Jesus also cast lots for His garments.
Since one of
Jt: HintI think we were both kidding. Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Judith H Taylor
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004
7:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment?
Why would God's standard only apply to Christians
: [TruthTalk] Judgment?
Slade Henson wrote:
How about casting lots?
==
If I remember correctly, the priests at times cast lots to determine God's
will. That was not gambling.
The soldiers who crucified Jesus also cast lots for His garments. Since
DAVEH: I suppose the best place to meet such people in casinos, eh!
I haven't yet met any big winners. I guess I don't spend as much time
on those river boats as you do, Iz. ;-)
ShieldsFamily wrote:
PPS How
many of you have ever known
anyone who won a
Hello,
my good friend Izzy!
I must
admit that there is a bit of a problem with us trying to decide if this or that
disaster is the hand of a punishing God. We do have a small piece of the Spirit
of God within us but we don't have all of His consciousness and thoughts within
us. (Finite
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Perhaps Florida did not
execute Paul Hill fast
enough? I think Im with Terrynatural weather is natural
weather. It doesnt mean we cant pray to be spared, however.
BTW, I
remember when Missouri
and other states in the Midwest voted
to allow
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 2:22
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Judgment?
Hello, my good friend Izzy!
I must admit that there is a bit of a
problem with us trying to decide if this or that disaster
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004
3:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment?
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Perhaps
Florida did not
execute Paul Hill fast enough? I think Im
FunnyI thought it was all those
mormons! Iz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave Hansen
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004
5:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment?
DAVEH: Hm..Perhaps the river boats
and casinos
ShieldsFamily wrote:
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Around
here, the flood was called Gods answer to gambling.
Izzy
As near as I can tell Iz, there is nothing about gambling being a sin
in the Bible. Can you point me to a verse that I may have
, September 19, 2004
5:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judgment?
ShieldsFamily wrote:
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Around
here, the flood was called Gods answer to gambling.
Izzy
As near as I can tell Iz, there is nothing about gambling being a sin in the
Bible. Can
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Terry,
Getting rich by robbing the poor is
condemned in the Bible. Most of the folks you see tromping onto the
boats
are obviously down on their luck. I know people who have
ruined their lives with gambling. I also have friends who consider
gambling to
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 21:33:40 -0400 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
ShieldsFamily wrote [re:]:
Getting
rich..
speaking of what God thinks
"..Babylon..has become a
home for demons and a haunt for every evil spirit,a haunt for
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