In a message dated 4/29/2004 8:48:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
PHILLIP WAS A JEW. THE EUNUCH WAS A JEW.
Terry -- everyone was a JEW for the first several years of the church. Commands pertaining to salvation -- if in deed, there are such, cannot be ignored because
In a message dated 4/29/2004 10:04:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh, really??? Hmm -- my two little children (ages 2 and 3) did not seem to pick up on that.
Dang -- and I was going to encourage you not to reproduce.
John
In a message dated 4/29/2004 10:14:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Chapter two it is. And my point remains unanswered - women can give
orders just as long as they offer no new information (?) And what about foot
washing and the cultural impact of water baptism? Did your
You've come to see the impact that this man has on
some of us.Please submit your reflections on this book. Issues involving
text and interpretation could then be addressed as well as the nature,
distinctives and content of Trinitarian thought.
I for one would not like to see Bill Taylor
Daniel states:
I know this is hard for you to accept -- but you are not the center of
the universe. YHVH is. And the Torah is even above YHVH.
Jonathan states:
Ok let me get this straight. YHVH is the center of the universe
but the Torah is even more central? The law is more
Lance Muir wrote:
You've come to see the impact that
this man has on some of us.Please submit your reflections on this
book. Issues involving text and interpretation could then be addressed
as well as the nature, distinctives and content of Trinitarian thought.
I for one would
I guess I missed itis Bill
threatening to leave us now? Why? Izzy
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Terry Clifton
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:54
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] David
Miller on TFTorrance'sThe Mediation of Christ
Apparently I have missed something in the last few hours -- don't know how -- but I am concerned. Bill Taylor leaving the group??? Someone include the post I missed (from him ?). It is 6:20 am here -- I will hold off leaving this morning --- hopefully someone will fill me in.
John
In a
Hi Terry: The mystery of Elsman deepens. I don't know
what he's got against Baptism; maybe (being a lawyer) he identifies with the
Sanhedrinwho also rejected John's baptism (see Luke 7:30) because they
didn't see the need to repent.
However, John 4:1 tells us that Jesus (our example)
made
Galatians 5:
19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: . enmities,
strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,
. those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience,
In a message dated 4/30/2004 7:05:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Galatians 5:
19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: . enmities,
strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,
. those who practice such things will not inherit
J
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Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:14
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Female
Teachers
In a message dated 4/30/2004 7:05:21 AM Pacific Daylight
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 4/30/2004 9:32:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Acts 8:12 "Philip was baptizing in Samaria"
Acts 8:13 "Peter baptized Simon the Sorcerer in Samaria"
Acts 8:18 "Many Corinthians believed and were baptized"
Acts 9:18 "Paul was baptized after receiving his
In a message dated 4/30/2004 9:51:24 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
WHAT MAN IS A MOUTHY WOMAN LIKE YOU SUBJECT TO? PASTOR? HUSBAND? WHY DO IS SUSPECT THAT THE ANSWER IS "NOBODY"?
Personlly I have enjoyed reading the opinions and posts lately WITHOUT the crude comments.
In a message dated 4/30/2004 11:30:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 4/30/2004 9:51:24 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
WHAT MAN IS A MOUTHY WOMAN LIKE YOU SUBJECT TO? PASTOR? HUSBAND? WHY DO IS SUSPECT THAT THE ANSWER IS "NOBODY"?
In a message dated 4/30/2004 10:44:53 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
LAURA, ARE YOU ANOTHER WOMAN WHO OPPOSES THE DOCTRINE THAT EVERY WOMAN MUST BE SUBJECT TO A MALE? I AM MOST SERIOUS ABOUT THIS POINT. IT IS BIBLICAL. ---ELSMAN
Absolutely not! I totally agree with the
Terry: 'twas not a post for you, sorry. I should
have sent it privately to David. I also unwittingly violated a private post from
Bill. Glad to know that you count yourself among the species that eat their own.
The level of acrimony on TT does not rise above that which I encounter in our
Dorry Lance. I did not know this was personal. Just wanted to point
out that when iron sharpens iron, you have to expect sparks.
Terry
Lance Muir wrote:
Terry: 'twas not a post for you,
sorry. I should have sent it privately to David. I also unwittingly
violated a private post
Terry: Let 'em fly. No objection from my end.
Lance
- Original Message -
From:
Terry Clifton
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April 30, 2004 13:43
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller on
TFTorrance's"The Mediation of Christ"
Dorry Lance. I did not know this was
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Galatians 5:
19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: . enmities,
strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,
. those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love,
I know that at least Izzy read one because she
wrote it. Has anyone else read a book thatshed a little light on life 'n
stuff?
I occasionally get the sense that invoking the name
of an author with (some) TTers precipitates a sense of dread or, even
idolotry.
When you hear a preacher,
-Original Message-
What if we have disputes with joy and patience?
Terry
I could go for that. J Izzy
In a message dated 4/30/2004 10:44:53
AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
LAURA,
ARE YOU ANOTHER
WOMAN WHO OPPOSES THE DOCTRINE THAT EVERY WOMAN MUST BE SUBJECT TO A
MALE? I AM MOST SERIOUS ABOUT THIS POINT. IT IS BIBLICAL.
---ELSMAN
Absolutely not! I
John S. wrote to Judy:
I have no idea why you say the above. There is
absolutely no evidence contextually that I can
see for concluding that the Gentile of Romans 2
is born again. He is one who has heard nothing.
blessed is he who does but has not heard.
Hearers are not justified
You said:
Dang -- and I was going to encourage you not to reproduce.
John
Daniel responds:
Why do I feel like I am debating with college freshman at UCLA
Are you supposed to be the grandpa John?
The hoary head is a crown of glory, IF it be found in the way of righteousness.
you said:
You once again missed the point, genius. She did not simply ask Jesus --
she told him to do something that He did not want to do.
Daniel responds:
Hey stupid -- telling your son to go fetch some water is a far cry from instructing
a man in doctrinal matters. No grey
Jonathan states:
Ok let me get this straight. YHVH is the center of the universe but the
Torah is even more central? The law is more important than YHVH Himself?
Please give me an example where the Torah states that it is above God
Himself.
Daniel responds:
BE GLAD TOOO!!!
Psalm
David Miller wrote:
Isn't this exactly what both the angels of God and
Jesus himself instructed women to do in passages
like Mat. 28?
Daniel responds:
The last few verses of Matthew 28 are given to the
11 disciples -- ALL MALE.
I was not talking about the last few verses. I was
Galatians 5:
19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: . enmities,
strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,
. those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience,
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 4/30/2004 7:05:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Galatians 5:
19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: . enmities,
strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,
. those who
elsman said:
I NEVER SAID JEWS DID NOT DO WASHINGS---THEY DID. THEY ALSO CUT
THE END OFF THEIR PENISWELL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW ALL 613!! INDEED,
GALATIANS SAYS YOU ARE FREE!!
Daniel responds:
A, elsman, and YOU WERE DOING SO GOOD REBUFFING THOSE JEZEBELS!!! Why
Lance wrote:
You've come to see the impact that this man has
on some of us. Please submit your reflections
on this book. Issues involving text and
interpretation could then be addressed as well
as the nature, distinctives and content of
Trinitarian thought.
Hi Lance. I appreciate the
31:15
Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the
LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
31:16
Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath
throughout their generations, for a
Daniel, Hypocrites like you make me ashamed to associate myself with Sabbath
keepers, although I am one. Who are you to make assumptions about people
you don't even know? You are a prime example of why it is more important to
walk in the fruit of the Spirit than to keep every jot and tittle of
In a message dated 4/30/2004 7:05:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Galatians 5:
19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: . enmities,
strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,
. those who practice such things will not
One of the most common Hebrew words for teach that is used in scripture is:
yara which means to point out, inform, instruct.
FEMALES ARE NEVER ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO MEN per I Timothy 2.
Women shouting out that YahShua resurrected would be like my mom shouting out to me,
Daniel -- we just
One of the most common Hebrew words for teach that is used in scripture is:
yara which means to point out, inform, instruct.
FEMALES ARE NEVER ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO MEN per I Timothy 2.
Women shouting out that YahShua resurrected would be like my mom shouting out to me,
Daniel -- we just
I AM being joyful and patient! J Izzy (VERY
joyful!!!)
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Female
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In a message dated 4/30/2004 7:05:21
Judy wrote:
Note: I find it interesting in light of the brouhaha
over the incarnation that there are no types for this
(that I am aware of) in the OT and it is not mentioned
in the teaching of the apostles.
Do you mean no types for baptism? The laver is a big typology of
baptism. Or did
Hello Izzy whore (I CALL YOU A WHORE BECAUSE YOU OBVIOUSLY FORNICATE WITH THE
BABYLONIAN SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE)
Anyway, izzy whore jezebel,
In typical idiot female fashion, you did not even respond to my post but just
launched into a female tryaid that makes a woman on her period look like
In a message dated 4/30/2004 10:02:27 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You might like to know that Elsman learned this doctrine from HolyHubert Lindsey himself. Hubert strongly opposed water baptism,considering it a great source of damnation. From his perspective, itwas like
In a message dated 4/30/2004 6:31:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hearers are not justified before God. That is a misunderstanding of
modern Christianity, that if you hear the gospel, then you are saved.
Paul is arguing in Romans that the Gentiles were DOING the law while
In a message dated 4/30/2004 7:09:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You said:
Dang -- and I was going to encourage you not to reproduce.
John
Daniel responds:
Why do I feel like I am debating with college freshman at UCLA
Ditto on that, kid.
J
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In a message dated 4/30/2004 7:17:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Subj: [TruthTalk] John mishandles the word again
Date: 4/30/2004 7:17:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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In a message dated 4/30/2004 7:31:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I love you little devils
Of course you do.
Perry -- wake up
John
In a message dated 4/30/2004 7:58:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
One of the most common Hebrew words for teach that is used in scripture is:
yara which means "to point out, inform, instruct".
FEMALES ARE NEVER ALLOWED TO DO THIS TO MEN per I
In a message dated 4/30/2004 8:00:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
AM being joyful and patient! J Izzy (VERY joyful!!!)
Just checkin
John
Perry -- do we have rules or not?
John
In a message dated 4/30/2004 8:16:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello Izzy whore (I CALL YOU A WHORE BECAUSE YOU OBVIOUSLY FORNICATE WITH THE BABYLONIAN SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE)
Anyway, izzy "whore" jezebel,
In typical idiot
Perry and all -- I just read this post again -- I cannot tell you how angry I am right now.
Izzy has been nothing but gracious, even when she disagrees. She does not need to have to even deal with this clown. It should be a simple thing to eliminate this loser from the list.
John
In a
You can kiss my kitty litter you little pud. Izzy
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Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Exodus 31 Shabbat
Hello Izzy whore (I CALL YOU A WHORE
David Miller wrote:
His argument is that the Gentiles who did not
have the LAW (were not hearers of the law) but
were DOERS of the law, would surely be justified
before God. Read the passage again now:
John S. wrote:
That is not what the passage says. When Gentiles who
have not the
John S. wrote:
It should be a simple thing to eliminate
this loser from the list.
Take strength from the Word of God, John. :-)
Gal 5:22, But the fruit of the Spirit is ... longsuffering
But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God, in much
patience, in afflictions, in
Perry,
I seriously doubt you frivolous pagan Christians who HATE THE TORAH -- the very law
Jesus came to magnify -- would ever consider my truth inspired posts seriously.
So, if you want to keep crying like a baby, fine.
But I'd recommend some words by Rush Limbaugh --
DEAL WITH IT.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perry and all -- I just read this post again -- I cannot tell you how
angry I am right now.
Izzy has been nothing but gracious, even when she disagrees. She does not
need to have to even deal with this clown. It should be a simple thing to
eliminate this
--- ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can kiss my kitty litter you little pud. Izzy
Daniel responds:
h . .. VERY GALATIANS 5 OF YOU, IZZY
What happened to your joy and self control
You see, you pagan Christians ARE SUCH A JOKE!! You talk about being loving and
In a message dated 4/30/2004 9:33:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David Miller wrote:
His argument is that the Gentiles who did not
have the LAW (were not hearers of the law) but
were DOERS of the law, would surely be justified
before God. Read the passage again now:
I consider this an inappropriate response to the problem at hand. Christ was not "longsuffering" at the temple. The kind of filth put out by Daniel to Izzy is never to be tolerated by other Christians. Why even have rules, David, if you have no intention of applying them? You have a cancer
John, Dont let the turkeys get you
down. Daniel is a flyspeck and doesnt bother me in the
teeniest. Folks who dont deserve any respect are totally impotent;
they just dont know it. (Although I must admit I dont mind
causing him to gnash his teeth a bit, while spitting venom.) And every
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