Luciano Resende wrote:
Hey Scott
Currently, our ant script and guides are based on having a
distribution available, and you will have to use maven if you want to
build/run from trunk source or a source distribution.
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Scott Kurz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Simon Nash wrote:
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Scott Kurz wrote:
Sebastien, I'm surprised the package names would be different.
What is
the namespace you're using that isn't mapping to the same package in
each
tool?
Just curious...
My app is an order processing app with the following
Raymond Feng wrote:
Hi,
I got the CXF code-gen plugin 2.1 working after debugging the plugin
source code :-(.
Here is the pom.xml snippt I figured out. Please note I had to override
wsdlRoot/testWsdlRoot to be a non-existing file to avoid NPE (I assume
it's CXF bug if the wsdl files are in
Stéphane Drapeau wrote:
Hi,
I created an entry [0] in the Eclipse bugzilla with the proposal.
Your comments are welcome.
Best regards
Stéphane Drapeau
Obeo
[0]: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=225956
The proposal looks pretty good to me. I have a few comments/questions:
-
haleh mahbod wrote:
1 - [] Put V2 doc changes in V1 pages and mark them as such
2 - [] Create SCA Java 1.x/ SCA Java 2.x documentation pages on our current
site wiki
3 - [] Create separate SCA Java 1.x/ SCA Java 2.x wiki spaces
Option 2 seems reasonable. Option 3 can be considered in the
Fengxiang wrote:
Thanks!.Luciano Resende
Yesterday evening, I got an successful configuration of ict.composite.
It seems almost work well .All pages I want was sucessfully integerated into
index, and show right output, but there is still a little problem,that is
the there is always a script
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
What is the best way to handle the 2 way ssl?
...
I don't know 2 way SSL enough to answer this one, hoping that somebody
else on the list can address it...
...
Also in regards to the Atom feed:
Can I somehow create a feed that appends a dynamic query parameter
Skip Schuler wrote:
So the thing is that I need to implement the Servlet interface, is that
right?
No you don't need to implement the Servlet interface. The workspace
admin app does more than producing feeds and that's why it implements
the Servlet interface in addition to the Collection
Raymond Feng wrote:
Hi,
Welcome to Tuscany!
Let me first make sure that I understand your scenario correctly.
1) You have an external web service MathService developed with Axis2
and the endpoint address is
http://localhost:8080/zong/services/MathService.
2) In the Calculator composite, you
Luciano Resende wrote:
For now String. this might change when I get isMany working.
OK. I think that string is fine, and 'isMany' properties can map to an
array of strings.
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Luciano Resende wrote:
Time flies and is already March. I'd like to restart discussion on
this thread and start building a list of things we want to do for SCA
1.2 and I'd also like to volunteer for Release Manager for SCA 1.2
release.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Simon Laws [EMAIL
ant elder wrote:
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Prashanth Rao [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
What are the approaches needed to integrate C++ component with say Java
component.
Is webservice binding the only way i can wire them together?
Thanks
Prashanth
I think thats right, WS is the best way
Pedro David Lopez wrote:
Hi, I'm a new Apache Tuscany user and I have a problem
Im using ws binding and return from the web services very simple
javabeans. This beans have some strings, integers and arraylists
atributtes.
In other case is a simple java ArrayList. When I try web services the
Matthew Peters wrote:
Thanks for the encouragement, all. I'll let you know how I get on.
This probably off topic for this list, but the choice between
implementation.web and implementation.servlet is an interesting one.
The page Jean-Sebastien refers to says that implementation.web is the
wrote:
Hello ,
Does anybody know how to change the default configuration settings for
binding.ws ?
To be specific , I am looking for the number of connections that Axis can open
in the same time to a remote server.
The default behaviour seems to allow only 2 connections
Rajini Sivaram wrote:
[snip]
I dont know the code well enough to understand how
these contributions are used/loaded/resolved etc. But yes, it will be good
to stop manipulating URLs to locate contributions.
+1, if I understand correctly, the scenario discussed here is like this:
Bob,
Luciano Resende wrote:
The one in the host-embedded is used for unit testing, and to make
sure extensions are working ok. The one in samples, is basically a
copy, and it's used as an example of how to build a new implementation
type. As you said in the first e-mail, the two are basically the
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Luciano Resende wrote:
The one in the host-embedded is used for unit testing, and to make
sure extensions are working ok. The one in samples, is basically a
copy, and it's used as an example of how to build a new implementation
type. As you said in the first e-mail
Novak, Miroslav wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for your reply. I'm glad that you like the idea of Service Discovery for
SCA.
Actually, I think that the best (and probably simplest) interface for the
discovery would be REST.
I'm nor SCA neither Tuscany expert so maybe that my view is too simplistic but
Joshua Jackson wrote:
On 12/8/07, Raymond Feng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, Joshua.
Thank you for your interests in Tuscany. Let me try to dump some information
to you :-).
Tuscany provides open-source software for distribution at no charge to the
public, that simplifies the development,
[snip]
kelvin goodson wrote:
Hello again,
thanks for your questions. With regards to your first question, I
think it's basically the same answer as I posted earlier today, that
you can create an ObjectInputStream associated with an arbitrary
HelperContext.
However, as an aside, I realised
Simon Laws wrote:
[snip]
The assumption I'm making from the info you gave is that you want to have
two SCA components communicate with the same domain but be able to specify
the WSDL that the web services binding uses. I guess what you would need to
be able to do is specify a binding something
Adrian Mos wrote:
Hi Luciano,
Thanks for your help! Indeed, if I use
component_name/$promoted$.service_name it actually works (in my case
InnerWeatherComponent/$promoted$.InnerWeatherService).
However as you mention in your older post, we should definitely be able
to just look up the
Anyone going to ApacheCon?
I'm there at the Hackathon today and will be there all week.
Drop me an email if you're going to be there and want to meet!
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Raymond Feng wrote:
Hi,
The plugin is a great relief. Thanks!
For the binary distro, we used to have all the jars (including tuscany
and 3rd party) under lib folder. Are you proposing to have tuscany
jars under modules and 3rd party jars under lib now? It seems that
the generated ant
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Anderson, Jeff T (CA - Toronto) wrote:
Our client is also very interested in this topic, be very interested
in seeing how it performed tighter integration, such as being able to
declare an intent on a wcf service method and use the Tuscany or
other SCA policy
Luciano Resende wrote:
The following JIRA [1] has some more info on the JMS Binding and it's
current status.
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-1789
On 10/19/07, JunJie Nan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
$ ls modules/*-binding-*
modules/tuscany-binding-dwr-1.0-incubating.jar
Raymond Feng wrote:
Hi,
As it was originally proposed, we'll do a SCA Java 1.0.1 release using
the 1.0 branch as the base line. The 1.0.1 is intended to be a bug fix
release and it should contain only non-disruptive changes. The
approach we take is to pull post-1.0 commits of incremental bug
Hi Nishant,
I just realized that nobody has responded to your email yet. I have a
few questions about the issue you're seeing.
Nishant Joshi wrote:
About jira 1562 , I have one user defined exception class in same directory
as my impl. and service, now i have generated wsdl on the fly.
but
Simon Laws wrote:
On 10/17/07, Raymond Feng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I collected all the input we have so far at the following WIKI page:
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Roadmap+Discussion
Thanks for doing that!
Coincidentally there's a recent
that make sense are:
- now, .jars in .war!WEB-INF/lib
- then later, .wars in .ears
+1 on not trying jars nested inside jars, I've never seen that pattern,
and was even not thinking about it.
- Venkat
On 10/16/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/12/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL
Radim Kolarik wrote:
Hi Sebastien,
I don't understand your question. What do you mean by level of
Tuscany? We used the same build and same version - 1.0-incubating, if
that is the question...
Yes that was the question :) I just wanted to know which Tuscany version
you were using and make
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Radim Kolarik wrote:
Hi Sebastien,
I don't understand your question. What do you mean by level of
Tuscany? We used the same build and same version - 1.0-incubating, if
that is the question...
Yes that was the question :) I just wanted to know which Tuscany
[snip]
Radim Kolarik wrote:
Hi,
our web service build using SCA is implemented as a WAR application.
Our WAR pom.xml (Maven) file has the following dependencies:
dependency
groupIdorg.apache.tuscany.sca/groupId
artifactIdtuscany-host-webapp/artifactId
version1.0-incubating/version
Matthew Peters wrote:
I am trying to understand how a contribution that contains a mix of
artifacts, including JEE artifacts, should be handled by Tuscany and the
runtime into which it is being deployed.
SCA-enabling of a JEE runtime and the scenarios that this will address
are introduced
Matthew Peters wrote:
As you'll guess from the post on Websphere and Tuscany that I put up a
couple of days ago,
My response: http://marc.info/?l=tuscany-userm=119223827124704
I would like to see where you want to go in the area
of
- Webapp and EJB module integration
I'd like to track
Nishant Joshi wrote:
I have found one work around for this problem but i would like to ask one
question that if in my WAR file if i put all WEB-INF\classes files in a jar
and put it under WEB-INF\lib directory and clean my classes directory than I
can't accesss services. is it bug in tuscany or
Simon Laws wrote:
On 10/11/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nishant Joshi wrote:
I have found one work around for this problem but i would like to ask
one
question that if in my WAR file if i put all WEB-INF\classes files in a
jar
and put
Hi all,
We've released v1.0 of Tuscany SCA 2 weeks ago... So it's probably the
right time now to ask what people want to do next and try to build a
roadmap for the next few releases.
Here are a few random thoughts to initiate the discussion. I've just
listed the things that came to my mind
Hi, some answers inline.
Ashwin Jeksani wrote:
Hi,
Can someone please clear my doubts?
1. In the bigbank-account demo the Account Component is refering to
AccountData Component in the same Composite then why do we have two
composite files(BigBank.composite AccountData.composite) can some one
Nishant Joshi wrote:
Hi All,
I am trying to access Tuscany service from bea weblogic. I have deployed it
on weblogic successfully but i can't generate wsdl on the fly. has
anybody tried to deploy and access tuscany service from weblogic?
I am using latest tuscany sca build. I am using weblogic
Steve Jones wrote:
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 18:38, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Steve Jones wrote:
Hi,
I'm having problems with the online store example:
http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sca-java-10-incubating-release-su
mmary.data/getting-started-1.0.pdf
The example builds
Steve Jones wrote:
On Wednesday 03 October 2007 19:18, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Steve Jones wrote:
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 18:38, Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Steve Jones wrote:
Hi,
I'm having problems with the online store example:
http
[snip]
Florian Rosenberg wrote:
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Mike Edwards wrote:
Florian,
I'd point out that the recommended way of doing things is to add
things in your own namespace.
Adding stuff to the OSOA XSDs is not encouraged.
If using your own namespace does not work
, it should
be in a different namespace
Yours, Mike.
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Florian Rosenberg wrote:
hi,
I have my compoent type implementation and provided an XSD to use XML
validation. Are there any specific steps I have to do. I'm currently
using
the version 1.0 binaries and I
Florian Rosenberg wrote:
hi jean sebastien,
Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/27/2007 10:39:21
PM:
Florian Rosenberg wrote:
hi,
I have my compoent type implementation and provided an XSD to use XML
validation. Are there any specific steps I have to do. I'm
[snip]
Florian Rosenberg wrote:
That is exactly what I did but for my case it does not seem to work, there
is no XML validation, at least I don't get any error even if I omit
required attributes etc. have to investigate what could be the reason. Even
though, the validation does not seem to work
Matthew Peters wrote:
p. 26 of the 1.00 Assembly Spec describes a mustSupply attribute on a
property inside a composite, used to mean that there is no default
value and a value must be supplied by the component that uses the
implementation. I don't see this attribute in the sca-core.xsd from
Radim Kolarik wrote:
Hi,
just wanted you to know that I have managed to solve the problem now.
It was all about other files, which were on our classpath and which
were not supposed to be there (our product jars). That caused
classloader to load classes where they were not supposed to be loaded.
Radim Kolarik wrote:
Hi,
We are experiencing a problem on Websphere 6.1.0.11 with Tuscany 1.0.
When we set all classloader properties, as mentioned before,
I'm assuming that you mean: change classloader properties of your Webapp
to parent-last / single, correct?
we are
getting the
Susanta Datta wrote:
Hi, my composite has a ruby implementation. In my Ruby file I require rubygems and some other
ruby files. How do I set those folder and files in my sca java project ? I tried with calculator script
in eclipse IDE. I works fine but if I add new a require rubygems in the .rb
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Susanta Datta wrote:
Hi, my composite has a ruby implementation. In my Ruby file I require
rubygems and some other ruby files. How do I set those folder and
files in my sca java project ? I tried with calculator script in
eclipse IDE. I works fine but if I add
... Thanks.
- Original Message - From: Jean-Sebastien Delfino
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: tuscany-user@ws.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: adding rubygem as dependency in ruby file
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Susanta Datta wrote:
Hi, my composite has a ruby
Florian Rosenberg wrote:
hi,
I have my compoent type implementation and provided an XSD to use XML
validation. Are there any specific steps I have to do. I'm currently using
the version 1.0 binaries and I don't really where to put my XSD file.
I checked the code and found the
Florian Rosenberg wrote:
hi raymond,
On Sun, September 23, 2007 2:31 pm, Raymond Feng wrote:
Hi, Florian.
Can you elaborate a bit on why you need the component name during the
read/resolve phase for your implementation.splice? If such information
is
needed for the runtime behavior, then
Sun Yang wrote:
Hi, Raymond:
Thanks for your confirmation. I will do that when I back to work tomorrow.
Regards,
Yang Sun
If you want you can also submit a small patch in the JIRA, looks like
it's just a matter of changing the SpringInvocationException(String msg)
constructor to
Radim Kolarik wrote:
Hi Sebastien,
I can confirm that you are right, that was the problem. I would swear
I saw many examples that had the implementation element as last one in
the composite file ;-).
Thanks again,
Radim
Yeah I had to fix them all for the 1.0 release :) I guess it shows
Radim Kolarik wrote:
Hi Simon,
unfortunatelly I am seeing the same problem on WAS 6.1.0.9.
Sebastien, do you still have the WAS environment? Could you try to
deploy RC3 based example web service on it?
Thanks a lot,
Radim
It works for me.
I need more precise information to be able to
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Radim Kolarik wrote:
Hi Sebastian,
I received the latest code from ant and I can confirm that the service
generates the WSDL file now. The binding.ws/ element doesn't even
need uri attribute, it works without any attributes!
However, there is still some problem
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Radim Kolarik wrote:
Hi Sebastian,
I received the latest code from ant and I can confirm that the service
generates the WSDL file now. The binding.ws/ element doesn't even
need uri attribute, it works
Florian Rosenberg wrote:
hi,
we have created a component implementation for a small RESTful composition
language which does not support references to other components, now we want
to add support for that. The component implementation is similar to BPEL,
but without all the WSDL and partnerlink
Mike Edwards wrote:
Folks,
The SCA specifications which are implemented by Tuscany have just
started out a new phase - they are moving to OASIS for formal
standardization. This is being done as a series of OASIS technical
committees, each dealing with one or more of the SCA specifications.
Two comments inline.
Venkata Krishnan wrote:
Hi,
The policy framework implementation is underway. We have some basic things
in place which allows the inclusion of policy intents and policysets into an
assembly model. There is simply sample policy that we have put in place
along with the
Hi Jeff, Thanks for some very good and useful input!
I added some comments inline.
[snip]
Anderson, Jeff T (CA - Toronto) wrote:
This is great news, that ties into an e-mail that I was just formulating this
morning concerning additional features that have been requested for our client
the
[snip]
Luciano Resende wrote:
I guess your suggestion for starting simple is fine, and I guess
implementation.das could get integrated with SCA Policy and DAS would
have the necessary support, unless we find some bugs on the DAS side.
I'll see if I can get to this in the coming weeks...
BTW,
Skip Schuler wrote:
Hi,
I've successfully deployed and tested the WAR on my Tomcat installation.
Thanks! The links from the index.html page works fine, and I'm able to reach
e.g. http://localhost:8080/sample-feed-aggregator-webapp/atomAggregator
Cool :)
A tiny detail: in your
[snip]
Luciano Resende wrote:
A related question, regarding SCA support in STP. Any plans to move to
the latest releases of Tuscany SCA ? We are targeting a 1.0 release
sometime soon, and would be great to have the Eclipse Tooling support
based on that release.
On 8/28/07, Chandrashekhar Jain
Skip Schuler wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to leverage the atom and rss bindings to expose some feeds using
java sca build 0.91. More specifically I'm trying to deploy a war on my
Tomcat instance. I have a class that implements
org.apache.tuscany.sca.binding.feed.Feed, however I'm not having any
Skip Schuler wrote:
Hi,
I only have one index.html file in my WAR in addition to the SCA components,
i.e. no JSPs or servlets. My wish is to have everything in Tomcat (and
perhaps in a WAR), i.e. adding new server processes are not an option for my
application architecture (would mean more to
Radim Kolarik wrote:
Hi ant,
when is the move to Axis 1.3 planned? Will it make it to the upcoming release?
Thanks,
Radim
Hi Radim,
The 0.99 release (which we are currently voting on) uses Axis 1.2.
We're just starting to talk on tuscany-dev about cutting the 1.0 release
branch around
Simon Laws wrote:
On 8/9/07, Maciek Chociej [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
Recently I've been investigating the same thing. I'm trying to rebuild
our in-house
SOA platform with the use of Tuscany. What I am lacking is clustering,
dynamic
lookup and load balancing of service providers. I
Comments inline.
[snip]
Amita Vadhavkar wrote:
I have not worked on the latest DAS-SCA integration so far, and am quite
sure Lucinao
will have good pointers in this area. But looking at the current
tuscany-implementation-das, can see the following possible.
Yes, I guess the idea is to:
-
Hi, interesting topic :) so I've copied the tuscany-user list as well in
case some of our users are interested too.
Vasil Vasilev wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to start a discussion about how we see the usage and the future of
XQuery within the boundaries of SCA.
What inspired me when I
Skip Schuler wrote:
Hi,
I'm not sure it this is a known issue or not, but here's the problem I'm
having with the feeding (atom, rss) binding;
I use the FeedAggregator sample that is shipped with
tuscany-sca-0.91-incubating. It runs fine out-of-the-box. However if I
change the feed reference to
Anderson, Jeff T (CA - Toronto) wrote:
I like having the samples, in the absence of extensive documentation these are
key to understanding Tuscany...
I like the idea of packaging the samples as simple SCA contribution jar's. I
think keeping the footprint as little as possible is important,
Simon Laws wrote:
On 8/8/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8/7/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We talked about this before (
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg16784.html) but
didn't come to any conclusions. So,
1/ What is the requirement?
2/ What is the
I was at a Tuscany BOF yesterday at OSCON 2007
(http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2007/view/e_sess/14724).
I presented an overview of SCA, SDO, Tuscany, what's in our latest
releases and some of the work in progress.
I have uploaded the presentation there:
[snip]
Robert Young wrote:
On a slightly different tack, if I implement my own servlet which
loads the servlet from WebAppServletHost would I be able to inject the
servlet context into the service via the generated servlet?
On 7/13/07, Robert Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Strangely I don't
ant elder wrote:
I think right now you have to use a META-INF/sca-contribution.xml file to
point to your .composite files, you can see an example in one of the
Tuscany
samples, eg:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/tuscany/java/sca/samples/calculator-webapp/src/main/webapp/META-INF/.
Jean-Marc Taillant wrote:
Hi,
I downloaded the last versioon apache-tuscany-sca-0.90. I played with
several composite sample and all looks ok. But what I need to do now
is to use tuscany into tomcat ( deployed in a war file). This
application will expose the ws binding. What I can't see is
Asha AmbikaVijayakumaran wrote:
Dear team,
I am having a c++ service component eg:Account Service from your
examples, the service is exposed via ws binding, and now i need this
service to be accessed from java using apache tuscany,
I have written a composite and i have attached it here.
legolas wood wrote:
Hi
Thank you for reading my post
Can you please explain following snippet for me?
reference name=StockQuoteReference1
interface.wsdl
interface=http://www.stockquote.org/StockQuoteService#wsdl.interface(StockQuote)/
binding.ws
to the
user list to help figure out what is important to you.
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
ant elder wrote:
With the 0.90 release almost out how about starting on 0.91? Its been
almost
3 weeks since the code chill for 0.90, be good if we could start doing
releases much more regularly and 4 - 6
Patrick Vanhuyse wrote:
Hi Simon,
I removed sca-contibutions.xml from provider. I copied Provider.composite to
consumer/src/main/resource. I add ProviderComposite to the consumer
sca-contribution.xml. And it works.
I have had a look at the code in SCADomain.newInstance(). It loads only one
Nicholas Williams wrote:
Hi all,
Section 1.4.1 of the SCA Java Common Annotations and APIs specification states
the following:
Using reference injection is the recommended way to access a service, since it
results in code with minimal use of middleware APIs. The ComponentContext API should
Dennis,
Some comments inline.
Dennis Virt wrote:
Dear Simon and Luciano,
Thank you for your detailed replies and comments. I also got an
impression that trunk is maintained healthy and buildable.
We have made changes to the trunk recently to make it easier to build.
Could you try the
[snip]
Jean-Sebastien Delfino wrote:
Dennis,
Some comments inline.
Dennis Virt wrote:
Dear Simon and Luciano,
Thank you for your detailed replies and comments. I also got an
impression that trunk is maintained healthy and buildable.
We have made changes to the trunk recently to make
Snehit Prabhu wrote:
Hi,
I'm new to Tuscany. A little help with the Bigbank example would be
appreciated.
Im using the SCA samples that I downloaded from here :
http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sca_downloads.html
http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/sca_downloads.html. I downloaded
the
[snip]
Andrew Borley wrote:
Further things that could be done:
Demonstrate use of more than one language/SCA runtime. Currently all
components are implemented in Python. There is a Ruby version of the
POPChecker, but I hit threading issues when I tried to use this under
HTTPD so I had to replace
Francesco Furfari wrote:
Hello,
I'm trying to push for the adoption of SCA model (Tuscany) in a
project whose development activities will start on the second quarter
of the next year.
Next week there will be a meeting in which I would like to summarize
the status of Tuscany project. In
Simon Nash wrote:
[snip]
I'd like to see closer integration between the Tuscany Java and C++
runtimes, with seamless cross-runtime wiring, deployment, and
composition. The application developer would write SCDL containing
components with different implementation types, and the application
would
The M2 release of the Tuscany/C++ SCA project introduces the ability to
write SCA components in Python and Ruby.
I have reviewed the documents describing that feature in the M2 Release
Candidate 1 distribution posted by Andy, but I'm sure there's a good
number of Python and Ruby developers
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