considering the heat and geometry of the reactants the electrical or for that
matter any other “inputs” might be a byproduct of the heat..necessary for
operation but no need to supply anything but heat and let the ionized plasma
squirting thru the geometry do the rest.
From: Alan Fletcher
In addition to Fran's comments, there may be thermal electric devices that
create electrical currents from thermal energy incorporated in Rossi's device.
The internally generated electricity could create desirable magnetic fields
etc.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Roarty,
Dear Friends,
Somebody on e-CatWorld says the publication of the second
HotCat report is imminent.
To avoid retro-prediction, that is an oxymoron, I am publishing now:
this;
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2014/09/rossis-great-report-on-dikw-scale.html
Let's wait together for the Report. Where
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Friends,
Somebody on e-CatWorld says the publication of the second
HotCat report is imminent.
The e-CatWorld article is here:
Irregardless of how many birds it cooks or are vaporized and whether they
can be counted or eaten, the technology is an albatross.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/08/26/why-this-solar-technology-is-already-dead.aspx
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
I don’t know Luca Gamberale, so I did some research into his background. I
like to state up front that anyone who has more info about him and his
level of ethics is welcome to rebutt. I am also a prejudiced supporter of
DGT. That said: there are two sides to every story.
In terms of this DGT
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
In terms of this DGT Europe guy, I don't trust his account or his take on
things because he has gone into the LENR development business himself.
No, he has not. He says he is now out of the cold fusion business.
As a future LENR dealer with human nature
In terms of this DGT Europe guy, I don't trust his account or his take on
things because he has gone into the LENR development business himself.
No, he has not. He says he is now out of the cold fusion business.
His on-line resume has not been updated or he is lying. But in any event he
did
*He was saying bad things about his own company! He closed down his own
company! That is quite different from saying bad things about another
company, and in any case, what he said was true. Even the people at
Defkalion admitted the flow rate was wrong.*
It would be in Gamberale interest to move
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
His on-line resume has not been updated or he is lying.
Obviously the online resume has not been updated. It shows him working at
Defkalion Europe. The company no longer exists. He and the other managers
dissolved it and informed the customers that the
*DGT prevented him from doing valid testing. That is not the same as
stopping him from looking inside the reactor. As soon as he did proper
tests problems with the previous tests were revealed. The previous tests
were completely invalid. *
You are naïve to believe this man who claims fraud as
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
It would be in Gamberale interest to move DGT's customer base to his own
company.
He DOES NOT HAVE a company! His company was Defkalion Europe. He dissolved
it, losing a $1 million investment. He said in the interview that he is no
longer working on cold
Can't you read...
Luca Gamberale's Experience
CEO, Scientist
LD-Brane srls
March 2014 – Present (7 months) Milan Area, Italy
LD-Brane is a startup operating in two main fields:
1) RD in the field of LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions). LENR is a most
promising powerful source of energy,
7 months counting from March is September, This month!!!
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Can't you read...
Luca Gamberale's Experience
CEO, Scientist
LD-Brane srls
March 2014 – Present (7 months) Milan Area, Italy
LD-Brane is a startup operating in
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
You are naïve to believe this man who claims fraud as opposed to
incompetence in setting up a demo for the first time.
He did not set up the demo! The people from Defkalion did. When he tried to
change it, they came in and removed all of his equipment,
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Can't you read...
Luca Gamberale's Experience
CEO, Scientist
LD-Brane srls
March 2014 – Present (7 months) Milan Area, Italy
LD-Brane is a startup operating in two main fields:
1) RD in the field of LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions). . . .
Ah,
A test plan is not to be changed by the customer without negotiations. It
is not within the prerogatives of DGT technicians to change a the test
plan. The CTO must approve all changes.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
*No one at Defkalion has questioned or refuted his report.*
This demonstrates the strength of DGT as a company. To let the slanders of
minor characters roll off their backs only shows that DGT will emerge as
the leader in the field of LENR.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Jed Rothwell
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Irregardless of how many birds it cooks or are vaporized and whether they
can be counted or eaten, the technology is an albatross.
That may be true. The developers seem to agree. But when the project was
started, it seemed promising. It is not the fault
Conmen are always the smartest persons in the room.
And I notices that your reading comprehension goes down considerably when
you don't want to believe what the printed words plainly say.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
*No one at Defkalion has questioned or refuted his report.*
This demonstrates the strength of DGT as a company. To let the slanders of
minor characters roll off their backs only shows that DGT will emerge as
the leader in the field of LENR.
Yo, Axil:
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Conmen are always the smartest persons in the room.
The ones I have met struck me as rather stupid.
If Gamberale is a con-man, why hasn't anyone at Defkalion pointed out where
he is lying? Why did they agree with his assertions about the flow rate?
- Jed
I did not know that.
This is all the more reason for Luca Gamberale to enter into this campaign
of slander...to put a strong competitor out of business. THis increases my
admiration of Luca Gamberale as a con man.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Axil
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
A test plan is not to be changed by the customer without negotiations.
This is not a customer. It is a joint venture company half owned by
Defkalion, half owned by a European company, Mose srl. A joint venture is
nothing like a customer. There is a world of
The really good con men go undetected...like Luca Gamberale.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Conmen are always the smartest persons in the room.
The ones I have met struck me as rather stupid.
If Gamberale is
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
THis increases my admiration of Luca Gamberale as a con man.
Unless you have some reason to believe he is a con man I suggest you stop
saying that here. Please tell us what evidence you have. It is not a good
idea to go around making unfounded accusations
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
The really good con men go undetected...like Luca Gamberale.
In this case let me assume undetected means you have absolutely no reason
to believe he is a con man, and no evidence for that. His malfeasance is
invisible.
Your accusation cannot be falsified.
-
Because of you powerful position here on this forum, I will abide by this
new rule. Please forgive my transgressions,,,I had no idea that the
virtuousness of Luca Gamberale was so highly regarded here on this forum.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Axil
Many have pointed not just to the cold fusion production of He4, but
critically, to the production of quantities of He4 that explain the
measured heat.
If these results are correct, the implications for Mills's theory seem to
be either the energy produced by He4 fusion events swamps the energy
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
This was the demo for ICCF 18. The purpose of that demo was to show the
peers of DGT that the product produced excess heat. Are you telling me that
you view of that demo showed no excess heat?
Yes, absolutely. It showed no excess heat at all. The problems
Do not count me in. There are obvious mistakes on the report, which
invalidates it. Axil, I think you are smart enough to notice them. I made a
list of it somewhere. But I have better things to do now.
2014-09-11 18:04 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com:
Because of you powerful position
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
Because of you powerful position here on this forum, I will abide by this
new rule. Please forgive my transgressions,,,I had no idea that the
virtuousness of Luca Gamberale was so highly regarded here on this forum.
His virtues or lack of virtue have
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Do not count me in. There are obvious mistakes on the report, which
invalidates it.
Please list the major mistakes.
- Jed
Look for yourself your or just look at past messages.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Look for yourself your or just look at past messages.
Why don't you point out the most convincing example?
I have repeated myself here a number of times for the benefit of the
audience. If you could take a moment to scroll the archive and search for
In reply to James Bowery's message of Thu, 11 Sep 2014 16:05:48 -0500:
Hi James,
[snip]
I have talked about this before on this list, but probably before you joined.
The answer to your question will depend crucially on the average size of the
Hydrino's being produced. For low values of p (the
Thanks. You may have posted while I was participating but I was, for
reasons that now turn out to have been spurious, ignoring your posts.
I'll try to locate them.
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 5:36 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to James Bowery's message of Thu, 11 Sep 2014 16:05:48
Why can't free energy companies be like other companies? I feel that the
amount of cloak and dagger and intrigue is overrepresented in this niche.
Eric
In reply to Alain Sepeda's message of Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:28:16 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
it remind me the observation of Iwamura as noticed in the book of Ed
Storms, that transmutation seems to be the fusion with an even number of
deuteron (2-4-6), with preference to stable isotopes.
Note also that
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:02:40 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
The time period is irrelevant. At some point the reaction is going to stop, and
when it does, some of the intermediate nuclei should be left.
There is then also the question of why the reaction stops with what
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:49 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Bottom line: As far as nuclear reactions are concerned, I would expect D to
produce mostly 4He, and H to produce mostly transmutation reactions.
Yes -- I have no reason to disagree with this. I was addressing
specifically the
I wrote:
Yes -- I have no reason to disagree with this. I was addressing
specifically the multiples of 2 D and 3 D that some believe have been
identified in transmutations (i.e., Z=+4, Z=+6, Z=+8, but not Z=+2.).
Sorry -- that's supposed to be M (for mass number) rather than Z (for
proton
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