Re: [Vo]:Changing the topic back to the test

Jed Rothwell wrote: If he had shown them how to produce any measurable COP, even 1.1, they would have paid him $89 million. That is an absurd statement which has zero credibility. You are falling into the same trap as Rossi's true believers, which is to make a dubious point at any cost.

RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

I do recall Wingate Lambertson - a scientist/expert on cermet products. Odd semi-ceramic things he called "E-dams" that generated excess energy. I recall that he passed away before it could be fully developed. It all sounded like phonon derived energy. From: Jones Beene

Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

Another overlapping mechanism to add into the mix for the Manelas effect, which is probably a "Maxwell's Demon" in its own special way is related to the organizing mechanism mentioned by Chris... and it has a name: Doppler cooling Doppler cooling usually involves photons with frequency tuned

RE: [Vo]:Changing the topic back to the test

Jones— I have concluded that Jed frequently draws conclusions that IMHO are not logical. The one you point is one I decided not to even address, since I thought it was obvious to most. Bob Cook From: Jones Beene Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 7:50 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re:

RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

If I google "phonons as an energy source", nothing in particular comes up. If we are identifying them as the likely source of excess energy within a barium/strontium ferrite structure, I would think that someone somewhere has thought about cohering them into useful energy. So, we create a

Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

Chris Zell wrote: If I google “phonons as an energy source”, nothing in particular comes up. If we are identifying them as the likely source of excess energy within a barium/strontium ferrite structure, I would think that someone somewhere has thought about cohering them into useful

RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 12:14 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE Another overlapping mechanism to add into the mix for the Manelas effect, which is probably a "Maxwell's Demon" in its

RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

Brian— I also thought there might be a connection between the Manelas device and Dragone theory. Again the possibility of reversal of the 2nd Law of T/D is very interesting. One thought I had was the orbital spin quanta are involved since in a coherent system they are limited to changing

RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Lattice+Vibrations If a crystal lattice has all of its atoms/molecules vibrating at the same frequency (or harmonic), then I assume the reason why we don’t observe crystals radiating is because it’s in all directions and cancels itself out in

RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

http://rexresearch.com/maccanti/maccanti.htm As Dragone seems to be talking about an effect which appears during attraction, I wonder about the overunity claims of the Maccanti device. From: bobcook39...@gmail.com [mailto:bobcook39...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 9:35 AM To: MJ

Re: [Vo]:Changing the topic back to the test

wrote: > I do not consider that the contractual sale of IP by Rossi included > training IH in his POHOSITA to obtain long term performance of the E-Cat > above a COP of 4. > I do not recall the details of the contract, but it covered all IP, at any COP. It covered

Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

I am intrigued by the Dragone stuff. It seems very close to Manelas, which I thoroughly tested in2012. From: Chris Zell Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 9:41 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT

Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

Unfortunately, the bullet-proof case for net energy gain was not made at the time. There is apparent gain, but not proved gain. Brian Ahern ran the test for many days using a very high capacity battery array. At the end of the test, the battery pack appeared to be fully charged, but there's

RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

That is sad. I recall that what you are describing sounds exactly the same as the situation with the Correa device. The best he do was to swap battery packs again and again to show gain – but it seems that as soon as you introduce a battery pack into any such claim, disbelief arises.

RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

Has Cyril Smith or anybody ever replicated the Coler devices? I’ve never heard of that happening – and if the Stromzeuger device could be replicated, we’d all be in fat city.

RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

Chris- I have understood that phonons are “virtual” particles that represent a localized energy in a crystal lattice made up of kinetic energy and potential energy in a resonant stable dynamic state. It is primarily thought to be an electric field that couples the nuclei and electrons in the

RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

(thinking this through…….) If you attribute the excess energy to a withdrawal from electron spins….. does conservation of energy apply? I recall an article in Infinite Energy magazine in which physics, as taught, seems to do a ‘workaround’ as to spin energy when calculations are done –

[Vo]:LENR Theoryplex, discussions some info

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2017/02/feb-20-2017-lenr-theoryplex-discussions.html peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

And there is yet another level of sadness in the more general subject of "battery powered circuits" especially when these are found in a situation of mixed AC and DC which is the situation where nearly instant recharge can be engineered by parameters such as pulse width. It is possible that

RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

From: bobcook39...@gmail.com [mailto:bobcook39...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 1:56 PM To: Chris Zell ; vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE Chris- I have understood that phonons are “virtual” particles that

Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

Chris Zell wrote: ... and if the Stromerzeuger device could be replicated, we’d all be in fat city. Replication requires a specialty iron for the many magnetic solenoids. That purity of iron is not being made these days but it was available back then from Sweden. It might be possible to buy

RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

If the nuclear potential energy source is tapped, then that would greatly supplement the latent heat which is the phonic energy you note. Bob Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Chris Zell Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 11:55 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB

[Vo]:automation and its economics effects

This is fairly interesting.  The video at the end is fascinating: https://medium.freecodecamp.com/bill-gates-and-elon-musk-just-warned-us-about-the-one-thing-politicians-are-too-scared-to-talk-8db9815fd398#.46edoyjxi Ron

[Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

There has been some discussion here about the position of the flow meter in Rossi's configuration. I have information from Rossi showing it was located in the gravity return between the customer site and the reservoir. I do not think there was a U pipe but I cannot rule that out 100%. Nothing like

Re: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

Bob, I like the path you ave taken. I have possesion of the actuak billet that worked for two years. I did not take the Manelas measurements lightly. I had two other talented engineers set up and record the data. We had complete control. From: