from defkalion GT
You can watch some shots from our internal testing on Hyperion bare
reactors in one of our labs at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuRGpRZ1t5E
Thank you for your attention
I could not see the video (thanks to Websense)
tell me if it is interesting.
normally it should be
finally I've see this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuRGpRZ1t5E
some photos, few seconds of testing phases... blair witch style...
I've noticed the long thin pipes for H, (for saferty I imagine).
the small rheostat...
not a show.
2012/1/30 Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com
from
Daniele makes too much fuss for nothing. I suspected that after our email
exchanges. I don't think we can trust him when he gives vague information.
2012/1/30 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com
I can confirm what Akira says, Daniele has explained me too.
Re bad (worts)news, my guess was that
Rossi's actions are so chaotic that it is better
to use a bit of humor to judge them.
Daniele is really a good guy, his poetry is
excellent, his other writings interesting, the blog attractive and in the
given circumatsnces,
he was an efficient reporter. To not forget, we have the same barber.
LOL
This is the high technology lab of Defkalion as said by Jed’s experts?
From: Alain Sepeda
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 11:47 AM
To: Vortex List
Subject: Re: [Vo]:FYI: Defkalion GT send video of internal testing
finally I've see this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuRGpRZ1t5E
some
I must agree. I was a
little underwhelmed when I saw that after the way DGT were going
on about their high tech lab etc.
On 30/01/12 11:42, Mattia Rizzi wrote:
LOL
This is the high technology lab of Defkalion as said by
I kind of like it - shows that they're focussed on engineering and making
things work rather than slick marketing (makes their claims more believable
to me). But I don't like the way the thin metal tube hydrogen lines are
strung out across the lab - an accident waiting to happen.
On 30 January
It is an industrial research lab, people are working with new self made
reactors and setups.
Why use high tech except the laptop there?
Energy is good- but (paraphrasing Bismarck) it is like sausages: it is
better to not look how it is
manufactured. Not only in this case, always.
I like the lab,
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 1:38 AM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote:
Russian YouTube shows a video film of airborne BL lasting 40+ seconds during
thunderstorm at:
http://rutube.ru/tracks/3787124.html?v=f37c6f3d5dd780052a6bca48c0825685
Judging size is always a problem, but that does look to be of the big
and far away variety. I saw BL many years ago when it appeared to be
small (1 metre?) and closer, and have had a long standing interest in BL
as a result. I have seen videos of other BL where it splits. In other
cases
I like the lab too. I am an engineer and not that interested in making
things look good for a photo op. It also reinforces how simple that system
appears to be which tells me once the secret sauce gets out it will be very
easy for most industrial customers/shops to make their units which should
An interesting video. Contrary to Peter's assessment below, I couldn't
believe what I was seeing. I come from an industrial laboratory
environment, and in such laboratories, while improvised hardware is common,
safety is paramount. The video shows a disregard for safety that would not
have been
Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote:
The long H2 line is absurd and seems to cross walking areas - if
something/someone runs into it or if the bottle falls over, a large volume
of H2 could be released before it could be brought under control . . .
It does seem unprofessional.
Do not fool yourself - the lab is adequate. What on earth were you expecting
to see- something from CERN funded by the taxpayer ?
What is curious is the chart on the laptop. Blow it up. Of course, we do not
know what it purports to show, but the two spikes are indicative of what
have been
If they are so much behind expectations, why would they say 10KW or more
for each Hyperion? Are they lying?
2012/1/30 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
Do not fool yourself – the lab is adequate. What on earth were you
expecting to see- something from CERN funded by the taxpayer ?
** **
From: Daniel Rocha
If they are so much behind expectations, why would they say 10KW or more for
each Hyperion? Are they lying?
No, in fact I would not be surprised if the spikes were not more than 10kW.
Mills' (Jansson) was showing 50 kW spikes, four or more years ago with a
In the brochures, they state 10sKWs, not as spikes. For a so short
deadline, they must be lying and more else, don't know how to pull so much
energy. They also lied about knowing what is Rossi's method/catalyst.
2012/1/30 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
*From:* Daniel Rocha
** **
If
Jones, and why do they claim 650C amd an experiment with duration of
48/48 hours?
When approximately 1 year ago I have informed Randy Mills about the Rossi
experiment and
just told about the possibility Rossi obtains some excess heat he got very
angry.
By the way Randy has not demonstrated
Apparently Daniel, you are not clear on the difference between power and
energy?
From: Daniel Rocha
In the brochures, they state 10sKWs, not as spikes. For a so short deadline,
they must be lying and more else, don't know how to pull so much energy.
They also lied about knowing what is Rossi's
I am very well aware of the difference. I don't know why you are saying
this.
2012/1/30 Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
Apparently Daniel, you are not clear on the difference between power and
energy?
From: Daniel Rocha
In the brochures, they state 10sKWs, not as spikes. For a so short
Defkalion's commercial reactor (described in their data sheet) has a large
hydrogen store. According to most accounts of the Ni-H reaction, the H2
consumed in the reaction is minute. Their commercial reactor is listed as
having a 2 liter bottle at 200 bar. Where is all of this gas going to
From: Peter Gluck
*
* Jones, and why do they claim 650C and an experiment with duration
of 48/48 hours?
Well, maybe so, Peter - but that is not in evidence in the video we are
talking about.
If they have indeed gotten to both that level of heat, and for that length
of time - in
Despite the shortcomings of the experimental setup, I would have thought
it should be possible to use dataplots such as these to characterise the
thermal characteristics of the a dummy hyperion system providing we know
the power input. This should give usable figures for heat capacities
and
This video has shown they have a lab
something our departed colleague Mary
Yugo has denied.
Instead of speculating in advance let's wait
what will they show us.
A basic problem is HOW MANY Ni (Transition
Metal) - H ANOMALIES DO EXIST?
Peter
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jones Beene
distance between bottle and reactor seems on the opposite to be for safety,
to make heat and bottle far away.
the fact (I did not notice it, but someone notice it) that the bottle is
disconnected is another safety measure.
instinctively one should let the pipe on, simply closing the tap...
Ian Bryce of the Australian Skeptics (and fact-finder for Dick Smith) recently
linked and posted an A.S. press release on Defkalion's forum:
http://defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=956
I'm thoroughly unimpressed with the comments from the Australian Skeptics:
Smith
This thread on isotopic enrichment of nickel, from a couple of weeks ago, is
being revived in light of the recent mention from DGT that they are still
trying different catalysts .
. which is about as close to an admission that they do not really know
Rossi's secret, as we will get at this
Hmmm ... very cylindrical. I think that my Concentric Conductive Calorimeter
would work quite well, and give the heat output as well as just a spot COP
test. Summary -- wrap the hyperion in cylinders of highly conductive putty,
then low conductivity putty and another high conductivity cylinder
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
This thread on isotopic enrichment of nickel, from a couple of weeks
ago, is being revived in light of the recent mention from DGT that they are
still “trying different catalysts” …
** **
… which is about as
Jones,
There was some conjecture that even sputtering can accomplish a crude form of
enrichment.
Fran
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 11:39 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Ni-64 enrichment
This thread on isotopic enrichment
Well, I sent the following inquires, I just found 1 lab. If you want to
help me:
Please,
I would like to know the prices of enriched Nickel 62 and Nickel 64 to 20%
and 50% purity.
If possible, I would like to know how the costs of a mixture of Ni 62 and
64 at 20% and 50% purity, at natural
Jones,
if they don't know Rossis catalyst - why do they allow independent
parties to test the reactor? They seem to be pretty sure about what they
are doing.
Perhaps they are just trying to optimize the reaction?
Wolf
This thread on isotopic enrichment of nickel, from a couple of weeks
maybe the problem is not reaction efficiency.
it seems they have a working reactor, with a COP 20 as they propose to
check in the test.
(assuming they are normal serious business they won't lie. and their
communication looks that they prefer to silent than to lie)
and it seem celani recently
From: Roarty, Francis X
*
* There was some conjecture that even sputtering can accomplish a
crude form of enrichment.
I can't see nickel sputtering making a significant difference in enrichment
at all. Is there any real evidence?
Even a faction of a percent gain is doubtful from
On a 2008 CNN Larry King Show, former air force officials showed videos of
UFOs which I think may be ball lightning.
The videos are available starting at --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTBqwTuSuMM
Has anyone seen these?
If so, any opinion on whether ball lightning is a good explanation?
Awesome!
Harry
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 1:38 AM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote:
Russian YouTube shows a video film of airborne BL lasting 40+ seconds during
thunderstorm at:
It extremely unlikely that Ni enrichment is being employed, regardless of
Rossi's claims. Even without knowledge of the mechanism for LENR how would
a hydrogen atom ever know if it was interacting with Ni 62 or Ni 64? The
coulomb barrier is identical for both.
But assuming that only one Ni
Wolf - How can you say that DGT is sure - when they do not even have
calorimetry set up on any reactor ? That does not inspire confidence that
they are as far along as we had thought.
If they simply used the Thermacore formula of 1993, except for going to nano
nickel - then they would show
From: Roarty, Francis X
There was some conjecture that even sputtering can accomplish a crude
form of enrichment.
I can't see nickel sputtering making a significant difference in enrichment at
all. Is there any real evidence?
Jones,
The discussion was regarding the Soret
Hi All:
Maryyugo asked me to forward a response to Alan Fletcher's suggestion and since
it seemed to be a constructive comment, I agreed:
See below:
Ransom
Re: [Vo]:Re: Defkalion GT send video of internal testing
Alan Fletcher, wrote:
Hmmm ... very cylindrical. I think that my Concentric
Practically speaking, *power* on demand is what a user wants.
Significant energy production would suggest that the device can
supply power on demand. Most people have no use for the concept of
*energy*, except theoretical fizzists and ultility companies who
charge per unit of energy consumed.
Gee .. about the only constructive (indirect) post I've seen from MY.
- Original Message -
Hi All:
Maryyugo asked me to forward a response to Alan Fletcher's suggestion and since
it seemed to be a constructive comment, I agreed:
See below:
Ransom
Re: [Vo]:Re: Defkalion GT
From: Roarty, Francis X
* There was some conjecture that even sputtering can accomplish a
crude form of enrichment.
I can't see nickel sputtering making a significant difference in enrichment
at all. Is there any real evidence?
Jones, The discussion was regarding the Soret effect :
Is it possible to see pictures of the rooms where cats are tested E-24 hours
per day?
You said: “Yes.”
But please, how, where and when?
Best Regards
Giuliano Bettini
Andrea Rossi Andrea Rossi
January 30th, 2012 at 10:59 AM January 30th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Dear Giuliano Bettini:
The time to go
Two problems with that assessment, Robert.
First, look at fission reactors as metaphor. 235U is found in a similar
ratio to 64Ni in the natural metal (slightly less), and yet a fission
reactor using natural U will not work reliably over time, without heavy
water - or unless the U has been
There seems to be the assumption that the video is an example of their
latest and greatest level of heat generation! I may have missed it, but
there is no such statement by DGT to that effect... it is just an example of
*some* testing going on.
Unfortunately, this smacks of the same kind of
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Based on what they were saying many months ago - I expected to see at this
time the glycol heat exchanger, and evidence of steady levels of ongoing
energy - not just a few power surges.
Their announcement said the full system with the glycol loops will
I agree that it looks messy and unprofessional. If my lab would look anything
like it, I'd be fired on the spot.
My main concern wouldn't be the distance to a pressurized container or any
other particularity but rather the entire setup. This is supposed to be a
nuclear reactor where nobody
I would like to thank DGT for allowing me to view this particular video. I
have worked within product development labs in the past and feel that the one
seen in the video is not unlike many of those. The equipment that is required
depends upon what they are testing or upon whether or not
I agree Robert. This particular skeptic does not impress me with his
knowledge. He needs to review the information that has been developed by
members of this list and others such as Mats Lewan before he makes unfounded
remarks.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Robert Leguillon
From Jones Beene
* I can't see nickel sputtering making a significant difference in enrichment
at all. Is there any real evidence?
Jones,
I think Thermophoresis and Soret effect may be enhanced due to trajectory
motion along a single axis. I also suspect that the molten alloy in motion is
Equation for Light Leptonic Magnetic Monopole and its Experimental Aspects
Georges Lochak
http://arxiv.org/abs/0801.2752
An excerpt from the Abstract:
Our monopoles are magnetically excited neutrinos, which leads to
experimental consequences. These monopoles are assumed to be produced by
So, Jones (and others) what do you think we are seeing here?
http://imgur.com/g26QI
[img]http://imgur.com/g26QI[/img]
Temperature vs time?
T
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:35 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I would like to thank DGT for allowing me to view this particular video.
I have worked within product development labs in the past and feel that the
one seen in the video is not unlike many of those. The equipment that
Direct Link:
http://i.imgur.com/g26QI.jpg
T
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
So, Jones (and others) what do you think we are seeing here?
http://imgur.com/g26QI
[img]http://imgur.com/g26QI[/img]
Temperature vs time?
T
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
Direct Link:
http://i.imgur.com/g26QI.jpg
My guess is the red (Ch2) is the input from the Variac and blue (Ch1) is
the reactor temp.
Or do you think it has something to do with the democrats and republicans?
;-)
T
-
http://www.137films.org/NewsDetailPage/Work-in-progress-screening.
The Believers test screening February 11
Work-in-Progress Screening of The Believers at The Gene Siskel Film Center
If you've been waiting to see our new film, The Believers, now is
your chance! The Chicago Council
sorry, the correct link is
http://www.137films.org/NewsDetailPage/Work-in-progress-screening.aspx
Harry
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
-
http://www.137films.org/NewsDetailPage/Work-in-progress-screening.
The Believers test screening
I'm pretty sure they are both temperatures. Heater temp (red) and
reactor temp (blue) is my guess.
The heater is in the 100C range, the other in the 400C range.
The spikes are a puzzle though... Maybe transient interference from
turning on or off the heater? It doesn't seem possible for the tip
Yes, it is basically the same kind of temperature spike seen by Janssen in
the BLP video but probably both traces are from RTDs mounted in different
locations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfjOIoPwolg
From: Terry Blanton
Direct Link:
http://i.imgur.com/g26QI.jpg
T
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at
So I guess this means non-locality can exist without entanglement.
Harry
---
Article
Quantum physicists shed new light on relation between entanglement and
nonlocality
http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-01-quantum-physicists-entanglement-nonlocality.html
Paper
Quantum Nonlocality Does Not
Ni62 and Ni64 enrichment is an assumption. I will now be pleased to offer
another possible reason for a catalyst change.
My theory of operation regarding the Rossi reaction indicates that the job
of the catalyst is to produce Rydberg atoms so that they can be used as
feedstock in the production
You can read it blourrily - Channel 1 inner, Channel 2 external
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Yes, it is basically the same kind of temperature spike seen by Janssen in
the BLP video but probably both traces are from RTDs mounted in different
An earlier, easier to read paper --
Low-energy nuclear reactions and the leptonic monopole
by Georges Lochak, Leonid Urutskoev
http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LochakGlowenergyn.pdf
-- gives more graphics on the experimental set up.
The authors claim the effect is robust, repeatable and seems
I meant, blurred - gee i wrote that email in a rush!
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.comwrote:
You can read it blourrily - Channel 1 inner, Channel 2 external
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Yes, it is basically the
From Defkalion's forum, they area claiming control over power peaks/troughs:
http://Defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=955p=5734#p5734
Defkalion GT
Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:56 pm Posts: 437
@Engineer We had to ask (it was around midnight here ) our RD people who
performed that
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Robert Leguillon
robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote:
As for the sparks: In this tests there where supposed to be two and we got
two. In other tests, we can maintain the sparks very very close to each
other and for as long as we want.
They also told us to tell
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Yes, it is basically the same kind of temperature spike seen by Janssen in
the BLP video but probably both traces are from RTDs mounted in different
locations.
I asked about the second spike and whether they added H to
At 04:20 PM 1/30/2012, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 4:04 PM,
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Yes, it is basically the same kind of temperature spike seen by
Janssen in
the BLP video but probably both traces are from RTDs mounted in
different
locations.
In the BLP video
At 04:35 PM 1/30/2012, Robert Leguillon wrote:
As for the sparks: In this tests there where supposed to be two and
we got two. In other tests, we can maintain the sparks very very
close to each other and for as long as we want.
Frequencies! I smell Frequencies!
They also told us to tell you
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton
I asked about the second spike and whether they added H to cause it.
They admitted they did something; but, it did not involve adding H.
Well, since they say they do not use RF then what would it be? The
Letts/Cravens effect involves lasers. None
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Ta-Da ... yes it is argon. It is a Mills catalyst, and we know they use it.
By Jove, I think you have it!
Should I ask? Or simply say Arggg go on!
I think I shall.
eg
T
Ta-Da ... yes it is argon. It is a Mills catalyst, and we know they use it.
Hold the champagne.. Piantelli says argon stops the nuclear process...
http://www.rexresearch.com/piantelli/piantelli.htm
In the pictures the yellow tubing appears to be for vacuum. But later
in the video a tube goes
Visualize: 400 reactor X 10 cores/nr going Fuku simultaneously after a Solar
Flare Grid Collapse lasting months or years.
Talk about all of that melting down into the water table making radioactive
geysers that will spew this stuff out again and again for hundreds if not
thousands of
In the first video that I watched, when the camera panned left to view the
gas cylinder on the floor, they blurred out the vid shortly after the tank
came into view... so are they conscious of what gets onto a video??? Yes...
-mark
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene
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