RE: [Vo]:Naudin US Patent Application- Capacitor Plasma Energy Generator

2013-01-13 Thread Jones Beene
From: Ron Kita Greetings Vortex, I wasn t aware of Naudin s Patent Application: http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=%2F

Re: [Vo]:It ate my book

2013-01-13 Thread fznidarsic
But what are you talking about here?? :) What virus? What book? How was it eaten? Which person are you referring to? these books http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooksfield-keywords=frank+znidarsic+science+books Something went wrong with Java and my files were

Re: [Vo]:It ate my book

2013-01-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
fznidar...@aol.com wrote: Something went wrong with Java and my files were temporally lost. The problem was on your computer, not Amazon's. If Amazon goes down it will be a national calamity since they supply data processing services to many others, such as Netflix. Things often go wrong

[Vo]:I feel really good about what I have done

2013-01-13 Thread Frank Znidarsic
I feel really good about what I have done. The peer reviewed article forced me to be logically consistent. I then applied this consistency to my book. The result is simple. I refactored Coulombs equation into the form of an elastic constant and a wave number. Using these terms I produced the

Re: [Vo]:It ate my book

2013-01-13 Thread Harry Veeder
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: fznidar...@aol.com wrote: Something went wrong with Java and my files were temporally lost. The problem was on your computer, not Amazon's. If Amazon goes down it will be a national calamity since they supply data

[Vo]:Re: I feel really good about what I have done

2013-01-13 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Things learned recently. I had this number rp. I thought it was the protons radius. That was wrong. It was the electrons wave number. With that my calculations fit into standard forms. I had this other number 1.36 fermis. I found it in the literature with a negative one exponent. Lane

[Vo]:Leo LQG - are we now centered?

2013-01-13 Thread Jones Beene
“Centering” has profound implications in many fields. Never mind that this Sunday, at least in the USA, most males are thinking only about it only in the context of the sport of football. Yawn. It is almost a primal duality in perception to contrast an uncentered (uniform) system vs a centered

[Vo]:What Makes this Motor Turn?

2013-01-13 Thread Terry Blanton
Is it the wind? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoCBORXzOqU

[Vo]:Re: I feel really good about what I have done

2013-01-13 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Thank you Jed for all that you have done. Here are all the number you need. 1.409 fermis , The electronic wave number 1.36 fermis, the nuclear wave number 29.05 / r, the electrons elastic constant The numbers emerged from cold fusion experiments. They are not much but the change the

Re: [Vo]:What Makes this Motor Turn?

2013-01-13 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:35:01 -0500: Hi, [snip] Is it the wind? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoCBORXzOqU I doubt it. The speed is fairly constant irrespective of orientation. The voltage from the coil on the meter is 5.92 volts, which seems to match the

[Vo]:Re: I feel really good about what I have done

2013-01-13 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Oh, by the way, here are the numbers you no longer need. Planck's constant The Compton frequency The deBroglie wavelength An adHoc Schrodinger wave equation The principle of quantum correspondence Start with the 3 New numbers and you can produce all of the above. Frank Z Frank Znidarsic

[Vo]:Fwd: Re: I feel really good about what I have done

2013-01-13 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Original Message Subject: Re: I feel really good about what I have done From: Frank Znidarsic fznidar...@aol.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com CC: Oh, by the way, here are the numbers you no longer need. Planck's constant The Compton frequency The deBroglie wavelength An adHoc

[Vo]:Fwd: Re: I feel really good about what I have done

2013-01-13 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Almost forgot. No longer needed. Coulombs equation 3 New factors do it all. Original Message Subject: Re: I feel really good about what I have done From: Frank Znidarsic fznidar...@aol.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com CC: Oh, by the way, here are the numbers you no longer need.

Re: [Vo]:What Makes this Motor Turn?

2013-01-13 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 3:00 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: The whole thing is reminiscent of the Avramenko Plug. One or more solder joints may function as a diode. Yes, he gave the coordinates (53.322062,6.206194) and I had a look but saw no obvious large towers within a mile or so. I

Re: [Vo]:What Makes this Motor Turn?

2013-01-13 Thread Brad Lowe
A battery inside of the motor case and multimeter. Here is a video rebuttal describing the scam and some choice (NSFW) commentary. https://www.youtube.com//watch?v=mv713TggGT8 - Brad On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:00 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 13

Re: [Vo]:What Makes this Motor Turn?

2013-01-13 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 3:00 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: The whole thing is reminiscent of the Avramenko Plug. One or more solder joints may function as a diode. Yes, he gave the coordinates (53.322062,6.206194)

RE: [Vo]:Re: I feel really good about what I have done

2013-01-13 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Frank Oh, by the way, here are the numbers you no longer need... Planck's constant, the Compton frequency, the DeBroglie wavelength, etc Start with the 3 New numbers and you can produce all of the above. OK, no problem with that - but if you start with the better-known numbers, you

[Vo]:newVortex

2013-01-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
As some of you know, a number of us have started a newVortex mailing list. This is a moderated list, but, routinely, new subscribers, on showing that they aren't spammers by submitting a coherent, on-topic post, will be taken off of moderation. The list, as a yahoogroup, has other associated

Re: [Vo]:Re: Microwave based motor

2013-01-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 03:42 PM 1/12/2013, Alex wrote: This second link says much about the possibilty of this microwave motor. But in the end I am not really able to try it, because once they were speaking about electrolysis from water into hydrogen then about splitting water with microwaves and then about

[Vo]:Rules for Unconventional Research, and Shaking Current Theories to the Core.

2013-01-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
This document by Bill Beaty is well worth reviewing, if the reader is not familiar with it. http://amasci.com/freenrg/rules1.html This doesn't just apply to inventors. Similar phenomena happen with pseudoskeptics, and *who isn't pseudoskeptical* on occasion, at least? A genuine skeptic does

Re: [Vo]:Rules for Unconventional Research, and Shaking Current Theories to the Core.

2013-01-13 Thread James Bowery
So-called confirmation bias must have had some adaptive value. I wonder what it was or perhaps even is? On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.comwrote: This document by Bill Beaty is well worth reviewing, if the reader is not familiar with it.

Re: [Vo]:What Makes this Motor Turn?

2013-01-13 Thread David Roberson
I would guess that there is some form of RF coupling to the coil or antenna from a nearby powerful source. This can be rectified to generate the DC voltage that he is using to drive the motor. I would include a zener type diode to limit the voltage and make it look constant. This design is

RE: [Vo]:What Makes this Motor Turn?

2013-01-13 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
This is an easy fake to do. There are 2 hidden small power sources. The sources have equally same potential by means of Zener diode for example. Small batteries are enough for the test with take 10 minutes to be completed. One source is placed inside the voltmeter in series with the (+) input.

[Vo]:Tragic death of Aaron Swartz and the open source science movement

2013-01-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
This is a dreadful story. See: http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/01/13/brilliant_life_and_tragic_death_of_aaron_swartz.html http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/01/13/aaron_swartz_s_suicide_may_make_the_open_access_movement_mainstream.html It gives me the willies because it is

[Vo]:I feel really good about what I have done

2013-01-13 Thread fznidarsic
Subject: Re: I feel really good about what I have done Can you use them to make a useful prediction in LENR? (this is not a criticism, just an obvious question which you must have seen before, so you probably have an obvious answer) Jones Thank you Jones, that is a good question.

Re: [Vo]:What Makes this Motor Turn?

2013-01-13 Thread David Roberson
I suspect that you are correct with what you are saying. The helical large wire would act as a highly conductive current pass from one end to the other. I was hoping for a at least an attempt to make free energy as opposed to conducting a pure scam. This type of non sense makes me ill. Why

Re: [Vo]:Rules for Unconventional Research, and Shaking Current Theories to the Core.

2013-01-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:18 PM 1/13/2013, James Bowery wrote: So-called confirmation bias must have had some adaptive value. I wonder what it was or perhaps even is? Okay, let me guess. We are good at guessing. We might occasionally even get it right. Much human behavior is learned. We need to be able to

Re: [Vo]:Tragic death of Aaron Swartz and the open source science movement

2013-01-13 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 3:22:49 PM Subject: [Vo]:Tragic death of Aaron Swartz and the open source science movement It gives me the willies because it is somewhat similar to what I do at LENR-CANR.org. Just as well nobody cares about

Re: [Vo]:Tragic death of Aaron Swartz and the open source science movement

2013-01-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:22 PM 1/13/2013, Jed Rothwell wrote: This is a dreadful story. See: http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/01/13/brilliant_life_and_tragic_death_of_aaron_swartz.htmlhttp://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/01/13/brilliant_life_and_tragic_death_of_aaron_swartz.html

Re: [Vo]:Rules for Unconventional Research, and Shaking Current Theories to the Core.

2013-01-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Martin Fleischmann expressed a view that you might say is the opposite of this. He said when you find an anomaly, it is the easiest thing in the world to convince yourself it isn't real. Your first instinct is to dismiss it. I think he meant that was the first instinct of a trained scientist such

Re: [Vo]:Rules for Unconventional Research, and Shaking Current Theories to the Core.

2013-01-13 Thread ChemE Stewart
My theory predicts that many rainbows create their own clouds and thunderstorms through atmospheric collapse and condensing in their vicinity and the energetic particle orbiting through the elliptical arc of the rainbow can weigh millions of tons (if you could weigh it). The rainbow itself is the

Re: [Vo]:Rules for Unconventional Research, and Shaking Current Theories to the Core.

2013-01-13 Thread James Bowery
In behavioral psych, the term is variable ratio reinforcement for the kind of reinforcement schedule, your refer to, that produces long-persisting behaviors/models/beliefs. Pseudoskeptics would, undoubtedly, like to point to that as an explanation for why cold fusion researchers are irrational.

Re: [Vo]:Tragic death of Aaron Swartz and the open source science movement

2013-01-13 Thread Daniel Rocha
He might have given back the original, but he made a copy. The JSTOR archive was finally uploaded to piratebay today. 2013/1/13 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Aaron returned the data he had in his possession and JSTOR settled any civil claims we might have had against him in June 2011.

Re: [Vo]:Tragic death of Aaron Swartz and the open source science movement

2013-01-13 Thread Daniel Rocha
I'm sorry. These files, uploaded, were already there. They were just re uploaded. 2013/1/13 Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com He might have given back the original, but he made a copy. The JSTOR archive was finally uploaded to piratebay today. 2013/1/13 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Rules for Unconventional Research, and Shaking Current Theories to the Core.

2013-01-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:43 PM 1/13/2013, Jed Rothwell wrote: Martin Fleischmann expressed a view that you might say is the opposite of this. He said when you find an anomaly, it is the easiest thing in the world to convince yourself it isn't real. Your first instinct is to dismiss it. I think he meant that was

Re: [Vo]:Rules for Unconventional Research, and Shaking Current Theories to the Core.

2013-01-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:55 PM 1/13/2013, James Bowery wrote: In behavioral psych, the term is variable ratio reinforcement for the kind of reinforcement schedule, your refer to, that produces long-persisting behaviors/models/beliefs. Pseudoskeptics would, undoubtedly, like to point to that as an explanation

[Vo]:Abd Lowmax no longer welcome on vortex

2013-01-13 Thread William Beaty
All subscriptions blocked until further notice. (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur

[Vo]:Suppression trends in late 2000's

2013-01-13 Thread Hamdi Ucar
Hello everybody remembering me, I had difficulty to join Vortex List by a possible reason of http://www.mail-archive.com is possibly being filtered here. Terry helped me. I would like to ask your opinions about suppression (trends) after 2000 where global CO2 emissions is widely considered a

Re: [Vo]:Abd Lowmax no longer welcome on vortex

2013-01-13 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:21 PM 1/13/2013, William Beaty wrote: Very weird. Bcc'ing this to newvor...@yahoogroups.com, just in case. Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 19:21:47 -0800 (PST) From: William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Abd Lowmax no longer welcome on vortex All subscriptions blocked until further

RE: [Vo]:I feel really good about what I have done

2013-01-13 Thread Jones Beene
From: Frank Z It predicts that if you can induce a wave motion in the dissolved hydrogen or deuterium with a velocity of one mega meter per second cold fusion will progress. Normal sound velocity in a solid is 2 kilo meters per second. Now we

Re: [Vo]:I feel really good about what I have done

2013-01-13 Thread fznidarsic
Thank you Jones. I believe you understand. Take the sea for an example. The speed sound is fixed at 2 kilo meters per second or so. Waves on the surface can go slower or faster. Tidal waves can exceed the speed of sound in water. That the concept that I want to apply. Instead of using

Re: [Vo]:I feel really good about what I have done

2013-01-13 Thread fznidarsic
Jones asks what does it have to do with the fine structure constant. That a very good question. Take the simplest case, the ground state electron in hydrogen. Its velocity is 2 million meters per second. Its a traveling wave and expresses itself at one wavelength. That is what traveling