Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-30 Thread Jojo Iznart
Also, assuming that you are right? Can the Qcond error account for the COP of 4+. Would such error really negate 4 times as much output as input. I presume you would say No. If so, then it is apparent that COP is overunity. If it is, this invention is revolutionary. Jojo -

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-30 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Standard backtracking when a person has been shown to be wrong. If you weren't inclined to start an argument you'd have checked some of your illegitimate assumptions at the door. On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Jojo Iznart jojoiznar...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever you say my friend. I'm not

Re: [Vo]:One Hot Little Number

2014-07-30 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Jones: Yes, even we vorticians have been jaded. A claimed COP of 8 usually leads to a tried tested COP of 1.8 when all is said done, and the error bars typically are +/- 0.7, so it becomes unremarkable. With that perspective an outset claimed COP of 1.68 usually leads to a tried tested COP

[Vo]:old paper - can it generarte new ideas?

2014-07-30 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear friends This new blog publication of something rather old and forgotten: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2014/07/about-slow-progress-and-crazy.html is intended mainly for those of you who believe in the chances of a hybrid, science-in-symbiosis-with-technology solution for the LENR

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-30 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
The thing is, if you look at Mills theory it tries to model not QED but all different particles and forces just by setting up photons and charge distributions. Id do look like QED and hydrinos does not match, the hydrinos start to get good exposure as a valid theory, QED have been verified a lot

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-30 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
The photon exchange seen in spectra of hydrinos comes from modifications of properties in hydrinos without changing the type of hydrino. You probably need a special QM theory for hydrinos to see them. But Mill can calculate those spectra quite well, more on this in another email. On Wed, Jul 30,

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-30 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
Sure, First of all the prediction and measurements can be found in http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/presentations/TechnicalPresentation.pdf Take page 76, if you follow the references there for you will find that the formula is most probable well motivated. If not you have a

RE: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-30 Thread Jones Beene
From: Eric Walker What I mean is that the staff at the Doe Library have been crucial in directing me to where I could get a visitor library card, so that I could look at journal articles. Eric Try Bechtel/Kresge. You do not need a visitors card there and they have most of

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-30 Thread Bob Higgins
In this case, I am talking about the previous demonstration where the COP was only about 2. Were we supposed to forget about that one? Because the calorimetry was not described, and how the conductor heat loss was considered was not spelled out, it is not fair to assume they were ignored. The

RE: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-30 Thread Jones Beene
Bob, Excellent post. This is my sentiment exactly. Somehow, Mills’ supporters are so touchy with how they view accurate criticism towards their golden-boy hero, that they forget that like all of us, Mills can be both right and wrong on major details of the same technology… which

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-30 Thread Steve High
Hi Bob, thanks for the great exposition on Qcond. Vorticians should know that Mills is taking questions under comments at his You Tube channel presenting the July demo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxuoMzm2HNE You might be able to condense your Qcond concern into a brief question and get an

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Somehow, Mills’ supporters are so touchy with how they view accurate criticism towards their golden-boy hero, He's a ginger: http://imgur.com/W494hZ0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginger_Kids

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-30 Thread Axil Axil
Like so much in LENR theory, the hydrino is born in the process of human concept formation. Humans understand the world by a series of observations and then they form a concept to try to understand those observations. It’s the duck process. If it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck and it

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-30 Thread ChemE Stewart
All paths lead to the quantum vacuum, we appear to be immersed in it. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Like so much in LENR theory, the hydrino is born in the process of human concept formation. Humans understand the world by a series of observations and

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-30 Thread ChemE Stewart
His cute sister On Wednesday, July 30, 2014, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jone...@pacbell.net'); wrote: Somehow, Mills’ supporters are so touchy with how they view accurate

RE: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-30 Thread Jones Beene
This 11 year old experiment below is basically a type of SunCell without the titanium catalyst, and using different electrodes. It would have been easy to surround this reactor with photoelectric cells, for increased gain, but AFAIK – Naudin never went that far.

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-30 Thread Jojo Iznart
Jones, from my perspective - about the only thing this has in common with the suncell is the electric arc. Everything appears to be quite different and intended for a different result. This looks like a simple electrolyzer to me. Are you seriously implying that since this Naudin experiment

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-30 Thread Axil Axil
Lenr has been reinvented many times since the time of tesla. By now after all these years and the many systems that these years have produced there is nothing new under the Sun Cell. The story is here. http://www.egely.hu/letoltes/Fusion-by-Pseudo-Particles-Part1.pdf

[Vo]:Italian minor, sucess in cold fusion... any more info

2014-07-30 Thread Alain Sepeda
http://iltirreno.gelocal.it/pistoia/cronaca/2014/02/02/news/a-13-anni-riproducono-la-fusione-a-freddo-1.8591445 it seems to be a Mizuno, but very few details... does anyone have better data? --- At 13 reproduce the cold fusion The experiment of three boys in the garage of the

Re: [Vo]:Italian minor, sucess in cold fusion... any more info

2014-07-30 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
This is the youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WjzYflPYI On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: http://iltirreno.gelocal.it/pistoia/cronaca/2014/02/02/news/a-13-anni-riproducono-la-fusione-a-freddo-1.8591445 it seems to be a Mizuno, but

Re: [Vo]:Italian minor, sucess in cold fusion... any more info

2014-07-30 Thread ChemE Stewart
That was much easier to follow for me than Randall Mill's demo and I don't speak Italien. Bravo! On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: This is the youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WjzYflPYI On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Alain

Re: [Vo]:Italian minor, sucess in cold fusion... any more info

2014-07-30 Thread Marcus Winckers
Same experiment, better explaining what he is doing.. Cold Fusion Reactions by Renzo Mondaini: http://youtu.be/TEceEHgaXoU Op 30 jul. 2014 22:17 schreef ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com: That was much easier to follow for me than Randall Mill's demo and I don't speak Italien. Bravo! On Wed,

Re: [Vo]:Italian minor, sucess in cold fusion... any more info

2014-07-30 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
But it seems to me all what happens here is that sparks are burning the hydrogen produced by the catalytic reaction. That is all. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Marcus Winckers marcki...@gmail.com wrote: Same experiment, better explaining what he is doing.. Cold Fusion Reactions by Renzo

Re: [Vo]:Italian minor, sucess in cold fusion... any more info

2014-07-30 Thread Alain Sepeda
what is the evidence of cold fusion. I don't see any calorimetry. it seems to be Mizuno electrolysis, buthow do they prove LENR ? gamma (few)? neutrons (normally fewer)? tritium detection ? 2014-07-30 22:12 GMT+02:00 Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com: This is the youtube video:

Re: [Vo]:Italian minor, sucess in cold fusion... any more info

2014-07-30 Thread Ken Deboer
excuse my ignorance, but isn't this just hydrogen burning in oxygen, and just like the h-cat? ken On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: what is the evidence of cold fusion. I don't see any calorimetry. it seems to be Mizuno electrolysis, buthow do they

Re: [Vo]:Heat dissipation is a MINOR engineering issue in the Suncell.

2014-07-30 Thread David Roberson
Eric, You can think of this solar concentration as a ratio of areas. Light from one sun collected over an area is directed into an area that is 10,000 times smaller. This is not too difficult if you consider that a circular collector only needs to force the light into a smaller circle that

Re: [Vo]:Quora : anti Leviall circus on e-cat test

2014-07-30 Thread Axil Axil
I just wanted to help those uninformed posters to understand LENR, and I was banned from the Quora forum. Was my information disrespectful or was it disruptive to the prevailing doctrinaire? It seems that as my understanding of LENR improves so do my odds of being removed from open discussions. I

Re: [Vo]:Thawing Permafrost Holds Vast Carbon Pool

2014-07-30 Thread Terry Blanton
Horace, wherever you are, looks like you were right: http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/are-siberias-methane-blowholes-the-first-warning-sign-of-unstoppable-climate-change/story-fnjwvztl-1227006746397 On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Quora : anti Leviall circus on e-cat test

2014-07-30 Thread Daniel Rocha
There was a person who removed himself from the physics part, and he had the highest points there, because people were obtuse to his moderate view on cold fusion. 2014-07-30 22:05 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com: [image: Boxbe] https://www.boxbe.com/overview This message is eligible

Re: [Vo]:Thawing Permafrost Holds Vast Carbon Pool

2014-07-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
This is unspeakably depressing. Somehow it is worse knowing that cold fusion might help. I know how Cassandra felt. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Heat dissipation is a MINOR engineering issue in the Suncell.

2014-07-30 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:57 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: A magnifying glass appears to reduce the effective area by a relatively large amount, although I suspect the concentration is much less that 10,000 to one. It would be easy to believe that the linear size of the

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-30 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:22 AM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe stefan.ita...@gmail.com wrote: One solution could be that there exists another QM theory for hydrinos only, they could simply be a new particle in QM speak or perhaps utilzing some new force or whatnot. Thats it and especially when we

Re: [Vo]:Is the SunCell a titanium burner?

2014-07-30 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Try Bechtel/Kresge. You do not need a visitors card there and they have most of the good Journals. Good tip -- I'll take a look. With the guest card I have, I can log onto the Berkeley campus-wide journal site, download

Re: [Vo]:Thawing Permafrost Holds Vast Carbon Pool - Cassandra

2014-07-30 Thread mgol...@aesopinstitute.org
Cassandra received the power to foretell the future from the god Apollo. Apparently, Apollo instructed the mortal woman and taught her about the art of prophecy because he had an ulterior motive - the god wished to win her affections. Cassandra accepted Apollo as a teacher, but not as a lover.