RE: [Vo]:1 MW of heat in a 6,500 sq. ft. facility without industrial ventilation would be fatal

2016-05-23 Thread Stephen Cooke
In the interest of clarity hopefully: Here is a link containing containerised mobile boilers which you might find interesting. I'm not yet clear if they are used inside buildings, Also they are for oil and gas boilers rather than electrical ones but I think you will agree there is a passing

RE: [Vo]:Some questions about H(1) ultra dense hydrogen.

2016-05-23 Thread Stephen Cooke
Oops i meant H(0) of course From: stephen_coo...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 17:19:02 +0200 Subject: [Vo]:Some questions about H(1) ultra dense hydrogen. Some questions about H(1) ultra dense hydrogen: Is it possible for H(1) to exist as only one pair of atoms

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-23 Thread a.ashfield
SVJ, In a way this Rossi affair reminds me of Fleischmann and Pons, where the poorly executed efforts at replication were sufficient to get academia and the supposed experts to pile on and accuse them of fraud. Although they made mistakes on the nuclear side I don't think there is any doubt

[Vo]:Some questions about H(1) ultra dense hydrogen.

2016-05-23 Thread Stephen Cooke
Some questions about H(1) ultra dense hydrogen: Is it possible for H(1) to exist as only one pair of atoms in dense form or is a layer of additional pairs in a vortex is required to stabilise it? Does anyone know if H(1) matter would contain stable electron orbitals, or would the electrons be

RE: [Vo]:We owe Steven Kirvit an applogy

2016-05-23 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Jed, Obviously, each Vort participant has to decide for themselves whether they should apologize to Mr. Krivit. Having been a former NET BoD member, I had my share of interactions with Mr. Krivit. My experience with Mr. Krivit was that he can be tireless and dedicated in his desire to

RE: [Vo]:Some questions about H(1) ultra dense hydrogen.

2016-05-23 Thread Jones Beene
The answer to these questions varies wildly, according to the theorist. There is little proof that can be called firm. The theory that appeals to me the most is not Holmlid's but the one of Lawandy. In that theory, there must be a dielectric support for UDH, which is always paired. A larger

[Vo]:implicit appeal for fairness in LENR Land

2016-05-23 Thread Peter Gluck
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/05/may-23-2016-bit-more-fairness-in-lenr.html actually regrettable things Quite good Info. peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

RE: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-23 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jack Cole Steven, Good post in my opinion…. Very respectful to all…. It is a painful thing to come to the realization that the hope you place in a person for changing the world is now lost (not to mention all the hours and work spent following the topic). It is a good and painful life

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-23 Thread Jed
"a.ashfield" wrote: > Several of Jed's charges such as the released heat being lethal Would you PLEASE stop repeating that horseshit! I never said that! NEVER! I said that without ventilation it would be fatal, therefore the IH expert must examine the ventilation

Re: [Vo]:We owe Steven Kirvit an applogy

2016-05-23 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:21 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson < orionwo...@charter.net> wrote: I think we came to loggerheads over the whole McKubre M4 issue. I never > felt comfortable with Krivit's analysis (actually, I would say: Krivit's > opinion) on the matter. I found Steven

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-23 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, how come you can repeat your statements but so not have t o verify anything or tell the whole story because some lame excuse. You basically say that you think your horseshit does not smell. On May 23, 2016 18:28, "Jed" wrote: > "a.ashfield"

RE: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-23 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Harry, Thanks for sharing your work on orbital mechanics geometry with me and with the rest of the Vort Collective. Wow! That is a really fascinating animated geometric construct. Incredibly elaborate. You appear to be quite gifted in your ability to build complicated animation

Re: [Vo]:Dear Johannes

2016-05-23 Thread H LV
Steven, I know that in the past you have wondered if the second focus of an ellipse could have any role to play in the determination of orbits, since it plays no role in Kepler laws or in Newton's derivation of Kepler laws. Well a few years ago, I invented a geometrical method in which the

Re: [Vo]:Apologize?

2016-05-23 Thread Alain Sepeda
This is a painful problem with skeptics, who in fact prevent sincere questioner to think straight from evidences. Rossi have a controversial story about Petrol dragon, but nothing definitive except some loose behavior with taxes and environmental regulations. For the US Army TEG projet, there is

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-23 Thread Alain Sepeda
Just forget calorimetry. IH have a licend to E-cat technology and derivation. If E-cat work they will make billions of $ of benefits, sharing par with Rossi, who will also make billion on other geographic zones like EU... It would be stupid thus to be in trouble with Rossi, to risk to lose the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-23 Thread Jack Cole
Steven, Good post in my opinion. Very respectful to all. It is a painful thing to come to the realization that the hope you place in a person for changing the world is now lost (not to mention all the hours and work spent following the topic). It is a good and painful life lesson. When you

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-23 Thread Daniel Rocha
Even if there were the case, I wouldn't consider anything lost. I can judge on technical data, not on hearsay. 2016-05-23 7:53 GMT-03:00 Jack Cole : > > It is a painful thing to come to the realization that the hope you place > in a person for changing the world is now lost >

[Vo]:many historical quotes

2016-05-23 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Many more audio quotes were lost. I put the in rm format 25 years ago and now they no longer play. Real Media is still here but the codecks are gone. Frank Z

Re: [Vo]:We owe Steven Kirvit an applogy

2016-05-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
I do not know if we should apologize to Steve, but I certainly agree he was right and I was wrong. I have been meaning to tell him. To be mealymouthed I wasn't so wrong as noncommittal. I think I said -- I hope I said -- I cannot judge whether Rossi is fraud or not, and it is not my business to

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Thanks for the vote of confidence. I feel a confident of conclusions in part because professionals who are way better at calorimetry reached similar conclusions. They also have better data than I do. OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: > At present I lack

Re: [Vo]:Rossi vs I.H.

2016-05-23 Thread a.ashfield
SVJ, I understand where you are coming from and Jed maybe right. But I don't consider it proven yet and object to the definitive way Rossi is accused of fraud before the court case is held. We should have more information next month, in particular IH's response to the charge. Several of