RE: [Vo]:COP < 1 should not be negative evidence for cold fusion (thinking in general, not about Rossi)

e a very very tiny CF reactor, similar to what you used, would be a way to detect this type of radiation in abundance. 2016-05-27 20:09 GMT-03:00 Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> >: . My sonofusion reaction was and is easily scalable to generate h

RE: [Vo]:COP < 1 should not be negative evidence for cold fusion (thinking in general, not about Rossi)

Decades ago I was invited to give a seminar on my evidence of making heat and helium via sonofusion at the General Atomics Tokamak project in San Diego. The tokamak had run a few days before my arrival and it had been a very good test, everyone was happy with the results. My ‘fee’ for giving my

RE: [Vo]:Neuglu - the newly discovered boson

Given that CERN and SLAC claim a 5 sigma signal is "PROOF" in their work the 10 sigma signal seen of this fifth force boson ought to count for something. The 17mev is remarkably within the energy ball park for many here-to-fore 23mev cold fusion events. A really interesting bit is whether this new

RE: [Vo]:EM Drive powered by entangled photons

That’s a cool concept From: Bob Higgins [mailto:rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 7:15 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:EM Drive powered by entangled photons I previously observed the coincidental similarity between the difference in photonic thrust and

RE: [Vo]:EM Drive powered by entangled photons

The momentum of Higgin’s electron/positron pair would be large by comparison! From: Frank Znidarsic [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 9:13 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:EM Drive powered by entangled photons The momentum of an emitted photon is very

[Vo]:EM Drive powered by entangled photons

OK Dr. Photon just how do we like this news on the EM Drive and the paired out of phase photons? http://www.physics-astronomy.com/2016/06/new-paper-claims-that-em-drive-doesnt.html#.V2LfsvkrKVM

RE: [Vo]:EM Drive powered by entangled photons

Clearly all of the ‘inside the box’ ideas cannot possibly explain the EM Drive thrust, that’s the interesting bit, oh no ‘bits’ are inside the dang box as well… now what? From: Bob Higgins [mailto:rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:28 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com

RE: [Vo]:Powerful Shot Against Believers In "No Safe Dose" Of Radiation

Or in more direct wording the benefit of the mentioned radiation was a greater than 30 fold reduction in cancer when compared to those people who were not "accidentally' exposed to long term Co60 radiation. Children born to parents exposed to the radiation showed 14 times fewer congenital

RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Nature of time and space==

to speed using Holmlid's technique in her own LAB and begin to understand why there are no unstable isotopes produced in the LENR fusion reactions that she is producing there. On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrot

RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Nature of time and space==

at 3:08 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrote: For many years some few of us, in the lab not in our armchairs, have been doing just this. Proposing new names for others work and discoveries doesn’t further the progress of science. Fro

RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Nature of time and space==

Time out ;) or is it time in… the game is afoot! http://atom-ecology.russgeorge.net/2016/02/06/the-force-of-time/ From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 11:06 AM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo] Nature of time and space== LENR produces

RE: [Vo]:BLP demo video

Dear Russ, Mills wll never give isotopic data because that info would undercut the hydrino theory in preference for the LENR theory. Hydrinos have no nuclear impact whereas LENR does. On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gma

RE: [Vo]: BLP demo video

As a high school freshman I won a blue ribbon at a science fair for my electrostatic generator wherein I dropped water drop by drop past my two electrical contacts which in turn made a tiny neon tube light up in a flash. Perhaps Randy has been dropping drops of water with colloidal silver.

RE: [Vo]:BLP demo video

I would argue that the present context Mills work better supports a philosophical as opposed to scientific discussion. It’s much the same as Rossi’s work. The data is lacking so what is there to talk about other than appearances. For me Mill’s engine core is such a perfect facsimile to

RE: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

idekickopen35.com/e1t/o/5/f18dQhb0S7ks8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9gXrN7sKj6v4LR3dW8qSMPY7dKPKPW7fRYjz2zlZNzW5CvrmQ1k1H6H0?si=6537132302139392=72763a4e-c9e7-434e-d37c-0ae30919601a> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> >

[Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

It seems the announcement of showing gravity waves are real is only of value to obscure academic discussions. Unless someone here might illuminate us about some practical derivatives that might be revealed due to the findings.

RE: [Vo]:Big surprise or big dud ?

I vote for option #2 being the source of this signal, the ‘neutral’ particles being crazy neutrons, ‘mischugenons’ as described Edward Teller in earlier closely related cold fusion work. Some few of us have been able to produce these critters. It’s good news if this particular recipe works and

RE: [Vo]:Big surprise or big dud ?

Was there some sort of calibration with some known radiation sources performed with the same NaI instrument in the lab setting. Say placing a Coleman lantern mantle, thorium laced, for a reading, or a banana or cupful of Salt Substitute KCl…. Plenty of known ‘reference radiation sources’ are

RE: [Vo]:Bose condensation in LENR

Of course this BEC condition as the means to allow for ‘cold fusion’ and suppress gammas is precisely what Julian Schwinger proposed in 1989… From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 11:54 AM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bose condensation in LENR I

RE: [Vo]:Implied personal radiation dose ?

Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com <mailto:rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com> > wrote: >From the signal pulse, I estimate about 5 micro-Sieverts (uS) per steradian. >So, it depends on how close you were. On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mail

[Vo]:Implied personal radiation dose ?

If the radiation signal in the recent MFMP experiment holds up what does this infer as a dose for the person doing the experiment? Clearly that person is both a much larger ‘detector’, likely often closer to the source, and has a long exposure from this and many similar experiments. It would

RE: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

The number of nuclear events/radiations in the recent MFMP test is very very tiny, perhaps representing 1 million events in total , ??. Considering DD fusion as an example to make a single watt/joule of output requires e12 events it is no wonder that this signal is hard to observe. The

RE: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

The photo of the detector placement has helped to understand this mystery As far as 'breaking radiation' aka Bremstrahlung, any form of energetic particle coming to a halt produces that characteristic signal, whether they are crazy heavy muons or speeding electrons...or ??? Neutron clusters or

RE: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

A much better test might be to add a more efficient 'crazy muon' receptor occluding perhaps half of the detector. Say a foil of silver or gadolinium. With such material the count rate might go up. How many cm away was the NaI from the source? Of course this presumes the signal can be

RE: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

Many years ago in the early days of cold fusion I was running an experiment at Los Alamos. We had a high quality Germanium gamma detector and a neutron detector. The neutron detector was old but good though it printed it's data counts onto a paper tape. It had been calibrated in another lab

RE: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

Bob, our solution to the cosmic spallation creating neutrons from lead was to move the lead far away… no lead no neutrons… I shared that story only to tell how easy it is to fuss about small signals… sometimes the signals are ‘relatively’ large for the instrument but meaninglessly tiny for you

RE: [Vo]:Big surprise or big dud ?

't think trying to measure the radon daughters is worthwhile. They would have to be checked with a beta detector anyway, not with the NaI because there is little or no gamma from radon decay as I understand it. Bob On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com

RE: [Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung radiation

Here’s a question of those whose imaginations include exotic particles.. what might be the characteristics of polyneutrons? Would they have the same half-life as a single neutron or ??? Clearly they have been observed in Fisher/Orianni work and produced large showers of radiation. They also

RE: [Vo]:New paper from Jiang in Chinese

If x-ray "warming" is taking place then we are at the very simple 'dead graduate student' test phase.. a dose of radiation capable of warming anything is surely lethal so just look into the lab and count the number of dead grad students lying on the floor, any number greater than 0 means a

RE: [Vo]:Implied personal radiation dose ?

received more radiation from the Natural Radiation Background than all that was currently estimated during the supposed burst... I’ll check back with him in a few days to see if he’s OK, though. From: <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> Russ George Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 2

RE: [Vo]:Implied personal radiation dose ?

the supposed burst... I’ll check back with him in a few days to see if he’s OK, though. From: Russ George <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 2:13 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: [Vo]:Implied

[Vo]:Schrodinger's E-Cat dose?

Physics point of view. We really don’t have enough of them versed in Muon Irradiation and the like. :) From: Russ George <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 3:03 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Implied person

RE: [Vo]:Implied personal radiation dose ?

. On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com <mailto:rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com> > wrote: >From the signal pulse, I estimate about 5 micro-Sieverts (uS) per steradian. >So, it depends on how close you were. On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 3:13 PM, Rus

RE: [Vo]:Big surprise or big dud ?

2016 at 3:35 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrote: Was there some sort of calibration with some known radiation sources performed with the same NaI instrument in the lab setting. Say placing a Coleman lantern mantle, thorium laced, for a rea

RE: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs

But surely they cannot replace Vanna White From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 6:59 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Intelligent robots threaten millions of jobs Frank Znidarsic >

RE: [Vo]: Mischegunon polyneutrons at 4.9 Sigma

Hot out of the liquid helium http://dx.doi.org/doi:10.1103/PhysRevLett.116.052501. Quad neutrons clusters reliably produced Holy Batman another meaning for Pauli exclusion.

RE: [Vo]:the expected LENR Surprise Rossi's long time test over!Re:

It seems to me that all the chatter about the 350 day term of Rossi’s test is just so much babble from armchair dilletantes. It is tantamount to trolling. I for one have no end of admiration for Rossi in performing his test so diligently and as openly as he has done. In the face of the nasty

RE: [Vo]:Merging Holmlid and Heffner

What might be a variety of means, low tech to high tech, to detect low energy muons? From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 12:19 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Merging Holmlid and Heffner The deflation hypothesis of Horace Heffner is

RE: [Vo]:the expected LENR Surprise Rossi's long time test over!Re:

computer code everywhere. From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 11:47 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:the expected LENR Surprise Rossi's long time test over!Re: Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com>

RE: [Vo]:Merging Holmlid and Heffner

ber... On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrote: What might be a variety of means, low tech to high tech, to detect low energy muons? From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net <mailto:jone...@pacbell.net> ] Sent

[Vo]:RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:​Researcher illegally shares millions of science papers free online to spread knowledge

I surely hope that there are mirrors of that data being created and saved everywhere. Paywalls in science have always been deplorable and have been avariciously supported by the vast majority of the scientific community. Once upon a time that is no longer there were costs associated with

RE: [Vo]:LIGO Gravity Waves... So what?

What, if anything, does this new LIGO GW work say about the ideas of Tom VanFlandern whose papers showed the speed of gravity to be e9 times C. Perhaps there is room for more than one kind of gravity wave, much like the P and S waves in seismology. From: Russ George [mailto:russ.geo

[Vo]:EM drive actually a GW drive?

Given what the methods and discovery of LIGO teach is it likely that the EM drive is in fact a GW drive and thus an immediate realization of some utility of GW. If so then Shawyer's 'GW detector' has far outdone LIGO.

RE: [Vo]:DCE for SPP

What, you don’t believe Casimir’s oxen pull? From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 7:18 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:DCE for SPP I don't believe that the vacuum does work. On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Eric Walker

[Vo]:Chinese tokamak fusion

I am curious as to the neutron count in the recent Chinese Tokamak test, years ago a GenAtomics tok test produced some e16 neutrons in total for a 'shot' of ~1 second. Did the Chinese see e18 neutrons?

RE: [Vo]:Chinese tokamak fusion

of China are embarrassing lacking in detail. It appears they only used protium, so zero neutrons are expected. From: Russ George I am curious as to the neutron count in the recent Chinese Tokamak test, years ago a GenAtomics tok test produced some e16 neutrons in total for a 'shot' of ~1

RE: [Vo]:Chinese tokamak fusion

tokamak fusion The reports coming out of China are embarrassing lacking in detail. It appears they only used protium, so zero neutrons are expected. From: Russ George I am curious as to the neutron count in the recent Chinese Tokamak test, years ago a GenAtomics tok test produced some e16

RE: [Vo]:New paper from Jiang in Chinese

Ludwik, What's your opinion of Fisher's polyneutrons these days? From: Ludwik Kowalski [mailto:kowals...@mail.montclair.edu] Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 6:38 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:New paper from Jiang in Chinese I suppose that at least one member of the Chinese

RE: [Vo]:New paper from Jiang in Chinese

with new experimental results. Dr Fisher said he will publish a new report, before the end of 2015. But he didn't I hope he is OK. Ludwik == On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:57 PM, Russ George wrote: Ludwik, What's your opinion of Fisher's polyneutrons these days? From: Ludwik

RE: [Vo]:New paper from Jiang in Chinese

not familiar with new experimental results. Dr Fisher said he will publish a new report, before the end of 2015. But he didn't I hope he is OK. Ludwik == On Feb 29, 2016, at 9:57 PM, Russ George wrote: Ludwik, What's your opinion of Fisher's polyneutrons these days? From

RE: [Vo]:New paper from Jiang in Chinese

As a cold fusion experimentalist it is astonishing to see such experiments being done with so few thermocouples. They are incredibly cheap and using many for redundancy purposes is just common sense. It used to be that the data channels were in short supply but these days many data channels is

RE: [Vo]:Events at the end of Jiang's run #2, Fig. 3

It is a telling and sad story on the character of LENR when this Chinese report that shows inadequate experimental design and clearly defective thermocouples with no redundancy is proposed by some as a ‘confirmation’ of lenr. Whether the reported experiment(s) are shoddy or not, the data

RE: [Vo]:RE: An experiment you never heard of

l crystal structure of active LENR > promoters like metalize hydrogen. The Sm rare earth configures the Co > atoms to take on the hexagonal configuration which directs all the > magnetic spins along the Z axis. > > > > Was there a secret magnetic preparation process involved in the > product

RE: [Vo]: Radon not a likely explanation for GS5.2

Interesting work. One simple thing to perhaps try is to set up a ‘radon flea’ trap at the lab, capture some ‘fleas’ and examine their spectra with the instrument. This comparison would settle this question one way or the other pretty quick and easy. The fellow who runs Aware Electronics and

RE: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

It's clear they (IH & Rossi) are not happy with Peter Gluck's (and others) speculative boosterism post(s)/reports on the effectiveness of the e-cat extended mewling test. Rossie and IH are clearly out to monetize whatever tech they have and offering the details to competitors as all of the

RE: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

Thornros lenn...@thornros.com <mailto:lenn...@thornros.com> +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Russ George <russ.geo...@

RE: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

Great vibrations but where you say, “Without physical reaction mass, such a system has its own unique reference frame - from within which, energy may be conserved, but which from without, cannot be.” Might we start using common terminology…. Your description is of course more popularly known

RE: [Vo]: EM Drive(s)

LENR so as to produce a directional thrust. On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 9:29 AM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrote: Of course what the EM Drive energy mystery suggests is an experiment where an addition inside the EM Drive might be made, a simple

RE: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

“And it is this direct implication that Shayer et al have not yet answered to, so far as I'm aware. The conversion of input energy to acceleration would remain constant, at any velocity. If 1 m/s/kg costs a whopping kJ, it'll ALWAYS cost 1kJ, whether from 0 - 1 m/s or from 999 m/s to 1 km/s,

RE: [Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

A 1-2 second radiation burst in a detector is the 'norm' for capture of a cosmic ray in lead! -Original Message- From: Bob Cook [mailto:frobertc...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:05 PM To: vortex-l Subject: [Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung experimental note Axil-- Bremsstrahlung

RE: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

such that it provides so little thrust. From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 10:17 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s) On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com>

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:EM Drive(s)

with carrying fuel! -Original Message- From: Russ George [mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 4:40 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:EM Drive(s) Now that there are lenr kits and bits being sold and as well the Orbo's it is time for someone to offer

RE: [Vo]: Bremsstrahlung experimental note

It’s right there for all to see hidden behind the Cheshire Cat’s grin! From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 11:07 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]: Bremsstrahlung experimental note Can you point out the location of the mouse in Rossi's

RE: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

Here’s a link to a great EM Drive DIY experiment http://www.masinaelectrica.com/emdrive-independent-test/#comment-10348 From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 12:36 PM To:

RE: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

to prove drive force. Why does the experimenter not use some form of shielded on board battery for power? A short duration test might be possible especially if they wish to convince many skeptics. Dave -Original Message- From: Russ George < <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com>

RE: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

nearly breathless in anticipation. From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 11:48 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s) On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 1:45 AM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com>

RE: [Vo]:Bacteria able to eat plastic bottles discovered by scientists

How about a simple verbal explanation as opposed to movies… few of us open movies posted in the wild on the net, it’s rather like poking at a mangy looking sleeping dog one comes across. From: Frank Znidarsic [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 10:11 AM To:

RE: [Vo]:Bacteria able to eat plastic bottles discovered by scientists

PLA has a very good lifetime in use 'on the shelf' it doesn't begin to breakdown until it is kept in the warm, wet, and dark though it has a relatively short lifetime in the direct sun of some many months so you would not want to make an inflatable back yard wading pool for your children... on the

RE: [Vo]:Bacteria able to eat plastic bottles discovered by scientists

Far better to just start replacing all of the polyethylene with polylacticacid PLA plastic which all bacteria find delicious. All of the worlds PLA plastic needs could be met using a sustainable harvest of a small fraction of the sargassum seaweed that fills the Sargasso Sea! Just take care of

RE: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

Opps the BBC Two EM Drive program in the 23rd of March not yesterday…. While waiting to see it here is a link to an view of the EM Drive future https://vimeo.com/108650530 From: alain.coetm...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Alain Sepeda Sent: Monday, March 14,

RE: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

We can adore Shawyer for his engineering, that doesn’t mean we have to love his physics ;) From: alain.coetm...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Alain Sepeda Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 2:13 PM To: Vortex List Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s) the claim of

RE: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

Anyone in the UK? Apparently there is, yesterday, BBC broadcast featuring Shawyer and his EM Drive… someone could please make it available on YouTube http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0752f85 From: alain.coetm...@gmail.com [mailto:alain.coetm...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Alain Sepeda Sent:

RE: [Vo]: EM Drive(s)

Your understanding is correct, the thrust observed is far from that possible due to photon radiation recoil. That’s a bogus strawman lure cast up from under the bridge. The higher Q = higher thrust prediction is long standing, easily/readily testable, and presumably Shawyer and others have done

RE: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

ve drive force. Why does the experimenter not use some form of shielded on board battery for power? A short duration test might be possible especially if they wish to convince many skeptics. Dave -----Original Message- From: Russ George < <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> rus

[Vo]:Cellani replication 'flea bitten' lenr radiation NOT

In the past week a report of Jeff Morriss on a distinct radiation signature during a Cellani style lenr wire experiment created much interest. Jeff has now found the bugs in the data, radon fleas! Dang it this got me itching to see a break-through and all I got was a break-out. Some of we 'cold

RE: [Vo]:Cellani replication 'flea bitten' lenr radiation NOT

The noise about the flash in the pan glow stick signal is getting totally out of hand. Mark Twain described such ‘social media madness’ 'There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact.' From: Axil Axil

RE: [Vo]:Statement from Industrial Heat

Sounds like someone wanting to be given riches for doing an imaginary half-assed job. Sure they ‘can have’ the money they just need to reach into the same imaginary pocket they pulled the device out of and pull out the money! More on this can be found at Fisher Center for Alzheimer's Research

[Vo]:EM Drive(s)

Now that there are lenr kits and bits being sold and as well the Orbo's it is time for someone to offer EM Drive kits. Enough of this fantasy about a cell phone that needs no battery or an efficient home heater... What is really inspiring is making science fiction's most desired fiction a reality

RE: [Vo]: EM Drive(s)

/2. Cooling the cavity will also increase the Q because the resistivity of the metal decreases linearly with Kelvin temperature. On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrote: In building a Shawyer EM Drive cavity

RE: [Vo]: EM Drive(s)

the anisotropy in emissions from an induced LENR so as to produce a directional thrust. On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 9:29 AM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrote: Of course what the EM Drive energy mystery suggests is an experiment where an addition inside

RE: [Vo]:Bacteria able to eat plastic bottles discovered by scientists

, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrote: Far better to just start replacing all of the polyethylene with polylacticacid PLA plastic which all bacteria find delicious. All of the worlds PLA plastic needs could be met using

RE: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

) On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrote: Alas the paradox of the EM drive thrust is that nothing observable or known escapes the sealed system, so no photons leaving… I have little reason to doubt that you are cor

RE: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

Alas the paradox of the EM drive thrust is that nothing observable or known escapes the sealed system, so no photons leaving… perhaps gravitons or Cherenkov magnetons are escaping but that’s tantamount to the propellant being dark matter. The latter might not be so far-fetched if one imagines

RE: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

]:Re: EM Drive(s) On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrote: Alas the paradox of the EM drive thrust is that nothing observable or known escapes the sealed system, so no photons leaving… I have little rea

RE: [Vo]:Cellani replication 'flea bitten' lenr radiation NOT

Good luck keeping TiHx ductile enough to remain intact! If the loading level is kept low the metal remains OK but as loading levels go over 1:1 the metal becomes increasingly embrittled and falls to pieces. Don’t expect to keep a Ti wire with a coiled bend intact for long. If the idea is to

RE: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s)

@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: EM Drive(s) On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrote: Given the apparent healthy condition of the experimentalists and the presence and proximity of the intense microwaves they ar

RE: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues Industrial Heat, LLC.

Your branding of Rossi by saying ‘his burst of anger’ is just plain bullshit. By definition of all the standards in what a Troll does that is a troll’s comment! Here’s a reference to support my statement

RE: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues Industrial Heat, LLC.

What a naïve specious comment “an engineer will lose his license” the reality is that license revocations very very rarely happen. There is even a clause is PEng society rules that says ‘no brother shall criticize a brother’ meaning that PEng’s are prohibited from criticizing other PEng’s.

RE: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues Industrial Heat, LLC.

Here’s a good paper on Anti-Social behavior on the internet… should be required reading for those of us with the obvious predilection to internet addiction http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3217592/ From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016

RE: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

The story of cold fusion is a sure fire way to bring out the trolls and nere-do-wells as evidenced in quintessentially trollish commentary that is raging. More important it also brings out those with earnest and honest hearts. Of course the main points of 'cold fusion' are more about the

RE: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

By the by it’s the best news ever for the field of cold fusion to have a nice juicy lawsuit, nothing the brainless media likes better than being led by the hand to understand stories and be able to fabricate all manner of imagined story elements… all under the supposed watchful eye of a judge

RE: [Vo]: Lets work out some useful definitions

Freeman Dyson has suggested that "observers of the philosophical scene" can be broadly, if over-simplistically, divided into splitters and lumpers, roughly corresponding to materialists, who imagine the world as divided into atoms, and Platonists, who regard the world as made up of ideas.

RE: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues Industrial Heat, LLC.

Anyone other than me seeing a DDOS attack on their cold fusion blog just now! From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 2:28 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues Industrial Heat, LLC.

RE: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

That is a very straight legal case Rossi reveals that points to the failure of IH to honor its contract. Rossi is clearly going to win this unless IH pays up the $89 million. Rossi is in the catbird seat as he is being seen to enforce his IP and license agreements which is a vital task under IP

RE: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues Industrial Heat, LLC.

, Apr 6, 2016 at 6:58 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrote: One could not dream up a better dramatic scenario than to have this world changing cold fusion revolution be tangled in a wild legal battle… the only thing missing are the nearly

RE: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues Industrial Heat, LLC.

One could not dream up a better dramatic scenario than to have this world changing cold fusion revolution be tangled in a wild legal battle… the only thing missing are the nearly naked beauty queens! I can see Charlize Theron in a major role in the movie. From: Terry Blanton

RE: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues Industrial Heat, LLC.

: Re: [Vo]:Press Release - Cold Fusion (LENR) Verified - Inventor Sues Industrial Heat, LLC. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 6:58 PM, Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrote: One could not dream up a better dramatic scenario than to have this world c

RE: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint

/ From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 5:57 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Copy of Rossi's civil complaint Russ George <russ.geo...@gmail.com <mailto:russ.geo...@gmail.com> > wrote: That is a very straight lega

[Vo]:Help the history of cold fusion

I have a request of fellow Vorts, that is will you please contribute your recollections and references as to the attacks on cold fusion over the years. I will organize this into a Who’s Who of the trolls in this field. There is a case to be made that the world would have been spared an

RE: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi

Unlikely a PR stunt not unlikely a negotiation over the $89 million. From: Lennart Thornros [mailto:lenn...@thornros.com] Sent: Friday, April 8, 2016 4:06 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:I.H. press release responding to Rossi Lots of speculations. The good news is thanks to

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