In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 3 May 2014 01:44:13 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Take a look at the third party test results.
http://pesn.com/2014/04/29/9602478_Solar-Hydrogen-Trends_revolutionizing-all-energy/SHT_performance%20_test.pdf
I could not find how long this test ran.
Another problem is
of the report in the link you provided or not
have fully digested the interview with SHT.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Oxygen to hydrogen?
Take a look at the third party test results
Yes, look at how little oxygen is present in the exhaust gas, verified by a
reputable testing company. I'm assuming that this ain't hydrolysis-wouldn't
hydrolysis give you roughly one third oxygen? Listen to the interview if you
have the time. The inventor appears to be blithely suggesting that
*Robin van Spaandonk is right when he says that the amount of energy
required to produce the oxygen to hydrogen separation is inconceivable in
its magnitude. Because the amount of oxygen produced is substantial, the
energy to break up that much oxygen into hydrogen would be in the hundreds
of
From: Steve High
Yes, look at how little oxygen is present in the exhaust gas, verified by a
reputable testing company. I'm assuming that this ain't
hydrolysis-wouldn't hydrolysis give you roughly one third oxygen? Listen to
the interview if you have the time. The inventor appears to be
.
Bob
- Original Message -
*From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Friday, May 02, 2014 10:44 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Oxygen to hydrogen?
Take a look at the third party test results.
http://pesn.com/2014/04/29/9602478_Solar-Hydrogen
http://revolution-green.com/hydrogen-production-breakthrough/
Here is more info from Revolution Green web site.
Konstantine Balakiryan, PhD, is a founder and CEO at Solar Hydrogen Trends
Inc. As a chief scientist he is the driving force behind the 7 models of
the hydrogen reactor. Konstantine
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 9:18 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Oxygen to hydrogen?
From: Steve High
Yes, look at how little oxygen is present in the exhaust gas, verified by a
reputable testing company. I'm assuming that this ain't hydrolysis-wouldn't
hydrolysis give you roughly one
To: vortex-l
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Oxygen to hydrogen?
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
Axil--
Where did you find the information about the use of TETA? If it is in the
third party report details, it seems
From: Axil Axil
Here is more info from Revolution Green web site. Konstantine Balakiryan, PhD,
is a founder and CEO at Solar Hydrogen Trends Inc. As a chief scientist he is
the driving force behind the 7 models of the hydrogen reactor. Konstantine was
a Professor and head of physics,
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Steve High diamondweb...@gmail.com wrote:
Wouldn't that be a rather endothermic procedure?
If you could get a process going that efficiently splits oxygen nuclei into
protons (and neutrons), Robin's calculations suggest the device would make
a fantastic freezer.
Re the shutterstock image. It's the same picture. You can crop the Shutterstock
image to match the truncated piece of whatever that is that's on the SH(i)T
website and everything matches exactly detail for detail. A remarkable piece of
sleuthing,Jones. Is there actually software that allows one
I have been waiting and seeing, but with the advent of a third party test,
I thought it was time to get additional information from the experts here
on vortex.
I had heard about this company a few months ago. I was copied on this
message from Michael Mc Kubre over a month ago. I have not heard
Jones is the best. This is why vortex is a great resource for evaluation
and critique. This info must be explained by this vender.
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Steve High diamondweb...@gmail.com wrote:
Re the shutterstock image. It's the same picture. You can crop the
Shutterstock image to
From: Steve High
Is there actually software that allows one to input an image that can then be
matched against everything on the web? That would sure be the bane of every two
bit scam artist.
Actually, I’d like to take credit - but this duplicity was caught by someone
else
About 2/3 of the way down this page
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/16708-hydrogen-production-beyond-belief.html
From: Steve High
Is there actually software that allows one to input an image that can then be
matched against everything on the web? That would sure
One other detail is that you will not find on the SHT website is the patent and
the patent #, but apparently there really is a European patent… yet that’s the
problem which has forced them to go for a quick investment in the USA, based on
vastly inflated claims instead of scientific validation.
I posted this picture of the STI reactor to the pure energy systems site.
It did not pass moderation. I wonder why??? The opinion of Sterling D.
Allanhttp://pureenergysystems.com/about/personnel/SterlingDAllan/index.htmlof
*Pure
Energy Systems News has diminished markedly as a result of this
Correction: STI should read SHT
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
I posted this picture of the STI reactor to the pure energy systems site.
It did not pass moderation. I wonder why??? The opinion of Sterling D.
Yup. I just did the same thing and did not pass moderation. BTW I checked the
website of the foundation that SH(i)T claims provided a grant. Any guesses
which name does NOT appear among the list of grantees to date?
Steve High
On May 3, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
PESN never claimed to be fair and balanced. :-)
Most likely, the SHT device involves using a consumable,
very much like the Pacheco device. However, there is the remote possibility
that the consumable can be recycled in situ if the gain is strong.
Here is a most interesting Armenian paper of
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 3 May 2014 12:13:28 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
*Robin van Spaandonk is right when he says that the amount of energy
required to produce the oxygen to hydrogen separation is inconceivable in
its magnitude. Because the amount of oxygen produced is substantial, the
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 3 May 2014 12:13:28 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
BTW a couple small side notes:
1) If you add a small Hydrinohydride ion to an Oxygen atom, it might take up a
close orbit around the Oxygen nucleus, effectively reducing the charge of the
Oxygen by one, and making it
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 3 May 2014 15:06:00 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
*Hi Jim *
*Yes, you are not the first to forward this (maybe the Menlo Park
context?). I am traveling ATM and this seemed so ridiculous that I did not
follow up. When I return I will pulse them and see if they will
An acknowledgement: as of Sunday Morning the PESN moderator did pass through
the reports from Axil and myself concerning the Chinese soda bottle factory
affair. I therefore withdraw any cynicism I may have evidenced
Steve High
On May 3, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
One thing that's different about this free energy scheme is how easy it would
be to close the loop ie use the output to provide the input and disconnect
the system from any power supply. My assumption is that a gas powered generator
could be or already has been modified to run on hydrogen gas.
– not saying that runaway
is eliminated but rather a window created instead of trying to balance on the
head of a pin.
Fran
From: Steve High [mailto:diamondweb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 8:31 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Oxygen to hydrogen?
One thing that's
@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, May 2, 2014 8:31 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Oxygen to hydrogen?
One thing that's different about this free energy scheme is how easy it would
be to close the loop ie use the output to provide the input and disconnect
the system from any power supply. My assumption is that a gas powered
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:23 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
If hydrogen is the output gas derived from oxygen, how much risk is there
for explosion? The mixture of these gases is highly explosive at just
about any concentration of hydrogen.
Reference:
Why is there so much nitrogen in the gas output and so little oxygen?
Nitrogen (14N) is a notoriously non-reactive LENR gas because it has a
non-zero nuclear spin, whereas oxygen (16O) is a wonderful LENR gas because
its nuclear spin is zero.
The cavitation based reaction in the SHT system must
, 2014 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Oxygen to hydrogen?
I looked into the metal separation technology that Jackob Aganyan of Solar
Hydrogen Trends(JA) said his system sprang from. What JA said in the video is
consistent with the technology that he says his system comes from. In the
patent
- Original Message -
From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Oxygen to hydrogen?
Why is there so much nitrogen in the gas output and so little oxygen?
Nitrogen (14N) is a notoriously non-reactive LENR gas because it has a non
TETA is an amine and has lots of N in its composition.
Bob
- Original Message -
From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Oxygen to hydrogen?
Why is there so much nitrogen in the gas output and so little oxygen?
Nitrogen (14N
-
*From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
*To:* vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Friday, May 02, 2014 12:29 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Oxygen to hydrogen?
Why is there so much nitrogen in the gas output and so little oxygen?
Nitrogen (14N) is a notoriously non-reactive LENR gas because it has
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
How much energy does it take to make TETA? Its an old radioactive
chelating agent and not cheap used in decontamination. However, it
production costs may have improved since the time we used it
US $20-22 / *Liter* *(
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 2 May 2014 16:28:20 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
How much energy does it take to make TETA? Its an old radioactive
chelating agent and not cheap used in decontamination. However, it
Take a look at the third party test results.
http://pesn.com/2014/04/29/9602478_Solar-Hydrogen-Trends_revolutionizing-all-energy/SHT_performance%20_test.pdf
I could not find how long this test ran.
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 12:07 AM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Axil Axil's message of
I must say, the acronym for the company name is SHT.
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYliDUI8bY4#t=173
See story at
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