Re: [WSG] Re: Website Directory Structure - Best Practice

2006-03-20 Thread Richard Czeiger
Call me fastidious, but I like all my file types to be the same in one folder. That is, the styles folder should have only stylesheets, images should have only images. When it comes to Flash I tend to put these in a folder called media for some reason R :o) --Original Message -- One

Re: [WSG] Re: Website Directory Structure - Best Practice

2006-03-20 Thread Richard Czeiger
Sorry Vlad - Ithink I'm with Lachlan on this one... Docs can be edited or re-written but if they're obsolete, you don't need to delete them - just don't link to them... If there's a conflict in nomenclature, like having a file called logo.gif for a company logo and you've a logo for one of

Re: [WSG] Re: Website Directory Structure - Best Practice

2006-03-20 Thread Richard Czeiger
Message - From: Mark Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: Website Directory Structure - Best Practice Richard Czeiger wrote: Sorry Vlad - Ithink I'm with Lachlan on this one... Docs can be edited or re-written

Re: [WSG] Re: Website Directory Structure - Best Practice

2006-03-20 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hi Vlad, In the case of the products - why not simply have a page saying Product X is no longer available. Remember I'm not talking about document santity where you're not aloud to touch it, but rather the idea that you don't need to delete files - which also avoids 404 errors... Branding -

Re: [WSG] Website Directory Structure - Best Practice

2006-03-19 Thread Richard Czeiger
I think this article pretty much cover it and seems to be the 'best practice' method. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/urls/ This accommodates eliminating the extension - which would please our Grandaddy Tim Berners-Lee http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI as well as avoids dumping

Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's Title

2006-03-16 Thread Richard Czeiger
Ummm, mickey - just spotted the fact that you have multiple identical IDs How does this work? Certainly won't validate.. R :o) - Original Message - From: Micky Mourelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [WSG]

Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's Title

2006-03-16 Thread Richard Czeiger
venerable peers :o) Now just have to figure out a way to style the legend properly. Cheers, Richard - Original Message - From: Micky Mourelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 4:38 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Semantic Form - Person's Title To Richard

Re: [WSG] Absolute Positioning-A Naive Question (Maybe)

2006-03-13 Thread Richard Czeiger
Here's a potentially naive response ... does it matter? As long as the (x)html is semantically marked up, does the rationale behind your css code make a difference (taking into account the fact that it should look the same on all browsers)? The ONLY function of css is the control of the

Re: [WSG] Usability issue with form help

2006-03-13 Thread Richard Czeiger
This may sound silly but what about the tabindex attribute? AFAIK it's still part of the standard and should do what you're after... R :o) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] webpatterns and patternquiz

2005-12-19 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hey John, I think you're right on both counts... Yes, in order for this to be effective the more professionals who contribute, the better it will be. And yes, absolutely, it's not about stating this is the ONLY way you can do this but presenting a set of choices. I look forward to seeing the

Re: [WSG] webpatterns and patternquiz

2005-12-18 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hey John :o) Martijn van Welie's been hacking away at something like this for a bit - check it out :o) http://www.welie.com/patterns/index.html R - Original Message - From: John Allsopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 2:34 PM

Re: [WSG] webpatterns and patternquiz

2005-12-18 Thread Richard Czeiger
Actually, it would be great if we could have something like this which would form a 'toolkit' of sorts where we can take 'developer-authorised' code snippets and put them in our pages. Such as finally having a collection of code so we don't have to ask: What's the most semantic and valid way of

Re: [WSG] webpatterns and patternquiz

2005-12-18 Thread Richard Czeiger
I don't know, Sam... I mean, we're not forcing someone to use these patterns. But let's face it, they're patterns because lots of people use them. For example: previous 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 next look familiar? Google and almost every multi-page set of results uses this. I'd call it a

Re: [WSG] Justify this

2005-12-14 Thread Richard Czeiger
In answer to your actual original question... Wouldn't it just involve setting the paragraphs container to padding: 0 3em; text-align: center; and then in the paragraph have something like text-align: justify; where 3em is the space on either side of the para to make it look centred. style

Re: [WSG] New logo scheme was talking points for standards

2005-12-06 Thread Richard Czeiger
Patrick's got a good point ... but isn't this conversation just about at its end? We seem to have two camps: those for and those against. How much more do we need to talk about this stuff??? R - Original Message - From: Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] starting ordered lists from a number other than 1

2005-11-23 Thread Richard Czeiger
There's also the idea that legal documents are often split into sections which continue numbering but are infact separate documents (addendums, etc...) . At the moment, legal docs can't be semantically marked-up (at least in OZ) because: 1. any electonic version of a legal document MUST

Re: [WSG] css instead of JS(ajax)

2005-11-08 Thread Richard Czeiger
This seems to be a great way to illustrate one of the key points of the whole standards compliant, semantic web concept. Basically, XHTML - Content (what it says) CSS - Form (what it looks like) JavaScript/DOM - Behaviour (what happens when I do this ...) The Fisheye example looks

Re: [WSG] Text choices on our own sites

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Czeiger
Actually James, I think this is more a Usability concern rather than an Accessibility concern. Whatyou might say instead is: "I can't view the site on my browser and even if I could, the text is samll and I can't change it!" Or "Why does this site tell me I need to have _javascript_

Re: [WSG] Text choices on our own sites

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Czeiger
I think another part of this is also the fact that web development is moving towards being a more respected industry and escaping the 'techno-mysticism' that surrounded it in the late 90s when we were all meant to be snowboarding designers or propellorheads. Having standards (and using them!)

Re: [WSG] Text choices on our own sites

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Czeiger
Also - the Nokia browser on my phone doesn't support JavaScript. And even if it did, where the heck would I change the settings? Device independence is a big part of Accessibility, IMHO. R :o) - Original Message - From: Donna Maurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] Text choices on our own sites

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Czeiger
I think it's important to NOT expect users to know how to do this or even be vaguely technically literate. Doctors, for example, shouldn't have to be IT experts. They fix people not machines. It's simply not their job or responsibility to be forced to learn the HUGE amount of stuff that as

Re: [WSG] Text choices on our own sites

2005-10-30 Thread Richard Czeiger
Good point, Andy. However, I think there actually *is* a benchmark we can use as a guide to work from in terms of the user's technical ability. I'd start by looking at 'default behaviour'. The ability to operate a machine/software using ONLY its default settings. For the web, this would be

Re: [WSG] Avoiding the evil br

2005-10-09 Thread Richard Czeiger
This sounds like it's going to turn into another let's all figure out how to use the address tag thing so let me pre-empt that. I think the bigger question is can someone proivde an example of when best to use the br / tag in general? What type of content semantically requires a line break.

Re: [WSG] Avoiding the evil br

2005-10-09 Thread Richard Czeiger
OK so someone pointed out that pre would be better for poetry and I agree but with some reservations. pre does a nice job of handling the visual side of things but from a screen reader's point of view, how do they handle a line break through pre as opposed to br /. Do they pause or say new

Re: [WSG] Placement of company logo

2005-10-09 Thread Richard Czeiger
However, there is an argument that has the logo in the CSS particularly for branding purposes. Hear me out... You put the logo in the CSS. Nice and big and branded etc... Then you make a special logo for, oh I don't know, mobile devices. Small, crisp, pixel perfect. Now your users can see

Re: *****SPAM***** Re: [WSG] Placement of company logo

2005-10-09 Thread Richard Czeiger
Subject: *SPAM* Re: [WSG] Placement of company logo Richard Czeiger wrote: Doing it this way IS good branding. It's also about controlling HOW you want your logo to appear in certain context. Anyone that's written a Corporate Style Guide will know what I'm talking about... Good point

Re: *****SPAM***** Re: [WSG] Placement of company logo

2005-10-09 Thread Richard Czeiger
: Monday, October 10, 2005 1:58 PM Subject: *SPAM* Re: [WSG] Placement of company logo Richard Czeiger wrote: That way you don't get clear.gif going in your otherwise semantically nice mark up :o) ... but that way you don't get a clickable logo ;) Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com

Re: [WSG] Avoiding the evil br

2005-10-09 Thread Richard Czeiger
I dont' know how it works in the big leagues over at the W3C but I imagine that there's a fair amount of discussion internally about every single little bit they put into their specs. Also, I have a stong feeling that our little mailing list here actually is a significant player into what the

Re: [WSG] Avoiding the evil br

2005-10-09 Thread Richard Czeiger
wouldn't make sense R - Original Message - From: Christian Montoya To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Avoiding the evil br On 10/9/05, Richard Czeiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK so someone pointed out that pre would

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Richard Czeiger
I'd have to agree with Andreas here. Wile for Ranking purposes they're not terribly important, at least Description is still sometimes used by Search Engines. Plus there's the added notion that Meta Tags *in and of themselves* are a good thing to put in a page (as any librarian will tell

Re: [WSG] Click here--reference

2005-09-19 Thread Richard Czeiger
Nice attempt Russ, but I'm with Andreas here. If the the link takes you to a location whose purpose is to execute a function (apart from reading/viewing) then why not state that. I've exempted reading and viewing as they're pretty much what you *have* to do on the web for every page - so

Re: [WSG] Click here--reference

2005-09-19 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hey Damian, Very valid point! It's not too difficult to turn a verb into an adjective. Somehow, though, reading your example I get the feeling that it's a very passive voice to read in. It almost *feels* like: Here's the Registration Form (which by the way you can also fill in). What else

Re: [WSG] teaching students developing to web standards

2005-09-11 Thread Richard Czeiger
Wasn't this question asked not long ago? Shouldn't people at least try to check the archives first? R - Original Message - From: Rick Faaberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 5:27 PM Subject: [WSG] teaching students developing to web

Re: [WSG] braindead - iframes???

2005-09-07 Thread Richard Czeiger
Umm, sorry Bert, Kenny's right. Totally unpredictable behavious of the object tag in IE6. Sometimes won't load, sometimes throws up a script error, and any JavaScript that I have can't talk to it. :o( Any other suggestions? R - Original Message - From: Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[WSG] CSS Mobile Buttons

2005-09-07 Thread Richard Czeiger
Does anyone remember on this list an example someone put together of an XHTML/CSS page feature a picture of a mobile phone where you could 'click' on the buttons (which were positioned via CSS)? Tried looking in the archive, but can't find it. Cheers :o) Richard

Re: [WSG] td != div

2005-09-06 Thread Richard Czeiger
I think it's also important to bare in mind that there might be very good reasons for putting a ul inside a div. The most obvious one I can think of is the need for two background images. I think once the next standard incorporates this and browsers support it, there will be even less need for

[WSG] braindead - iframes???

2005-09-06 Thread Richard Czeiger
Maybe a lack of coffee but in XHTML 1.0 Strict, what is there that replaces iframes? I vaguely remember once being able to add the SRC attribute to a div but that's not up to spec. What's out there thatdisplays the contents of a URIand validates? Cheers :o) Richard

Re: [WSG] Text Size Statistics

2005-09-02 Thread Richard Czeiger
Ah - ok ... now i get it .. sorry ... firday ... going home now :o) r - Original Message - From: Peter Williams I think confused. I took this to mean that: - you create a standards compliant site - a visitor with an older browser visits and sees mush - a page explains why the page

[WSG] Text Size Statistics

2005-09-01 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hi all :o) Have a client whose text size in IE is set to Largest (like my Dad). Just wondering if anyone knows of a resource out there that maps out the percentage of users that: a) know about View Text Size, and b) actually change it and if so, to what? Any help would be good and, I

Re: [WSG] Text Size Statistics

2005-09-01 Thread Richard Czeiger
Thanks Donna - Nice to hear from a usability professional. I guess this raises the question: If we're all going hell-for-leather making fluid siteswith relative fonts for increased usability / accessibility and no one knows about it or how to use it, then: a) Is it worth the effort?

Re: [WSG] Text Size Statistics

2005-09-01 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hi Terrence, I agree that its not our domain, but I don't think that makes us completely free of responsibility. Additionally, if no one knows about it - why bother. Shouldn't I just go back to to pixel-perfect font control. Yourphrase 'removing barriers to content' got me thinking... The

Re: [WSG] Text Size Statistics

2005-09-01 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hey Donna :o) Geeky, huh? Very well. The Accessibility Statement is fairly generic (an example is here www.aidgc.com.au/accessibility.html ) and is based on an amanlgamation of various guru's and government's access pages. So the geek factor is probably high, but for politeness I'll refer

Re: [WSG] Text Size Statistics

2005-09-01 Thread Richard Czeiger
I like the idea of a 'friendly' accessibility page. ve got these 'footer pages' that I basically copy across sites instead of thinkingn up new content all the time. My only concern in rewriting this is that some of my clients prefer very formal language for their sites. Maybe its a case of

Re: [WSG] Text Size Statistics

2005-09-01 Thread Richard Czeiger
Here that, Donna? You've been nominated! I await your masterwork :oP R - Original Message - From: "Terrence Wood" I'd take up Donna's offer to rewrite it for you =)

Re: [WSG] Text Size Statistics

2005-09-01 Thread Richard Czeiger
I thinkeveryone's put forward excellent arguments, thus far. It's important to remember that a lot of the time the 'why are we doing this' questions get asked because we're after a reasonable justification for both ourselves and our clients. I don't think it's enough to do something purely

Re: *****SPAM***** RE: [WSG] Text Size Statistics

2005-09-01 Thread Richard Czeiger
Ummm, if you were a developer would you put a link on your non-standards compliant site pointing to a page that tells the user why your site is bad R (either confused or not catching sarcasm on a Friday afternoon) - Original Message - From: Scott Swabey - Lafinboy Productions

Re: [WSG] help or web standards group?

2005-07-11 Thread Richard Czeiger
I don't know, Lea... Perhaps there should be two lists - one for discussing standards/accessibility/best practice and one for how do I fix my float/site check please. Personally, the latter tends to just fill up my Inbox, whereas I find the former really interesting and challenging Some

Re: [WSG] are underscores a problem

2005-07-07 Thread Richard Czeiger
Does that mean the best way to go fro ID, Class Names, Variables, etc... is interCaps (also known as CamelCase or lowerCamelCase) ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CamelCase R - Original Message - From: Ben Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, July 08,

Re: [WSG] AJAX and accesibility

2005-06-29 Thread Richard Czeiger
http://www.standards-schmandards.com/index.php?2005/03/01/16-ajax-and-accessibility http://adactio.com/journal/display.php/20050308163812.xml - Original Message - From: Maarten Stolte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:55 PM Subject: [WSG]

Re: [WSG] looking for an accessibility reference on why text-only is bad

2005-06-29 Thread Richard Czeiger
Cheat! Use a styleswitcher to to display your 'text-only' courier-based stylesheet :o) Richard - Original Message - From: Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: [WSG] looking for an accessibility reference on why

Re: [WSG] looking for an accessibility reference on why text-only is bad

2005-06-29 Thread Richard Czeiger
, June 30, 2005 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] looking for an accessibility reference on why text-only is bad On 6/30/05, Richard Czeiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Use a styleswitcher to to display your 'text-only' courier-based stylesheet We *could* do that... but I'd rather educate the client

Re: [WSG] 'strong' as class name

2005-06-26 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hi tee, I still think the strong tag is the way to go for you. In your example you have inline text that you want to make bold and a diff colour and font. This *shounds* like you want to strongly emphasis that text. Why not use the strong element to do it? You can still apply your styles:

[WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-14 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hi all, Wondering how we can get CSS to specifity the spearator used in ordered lists (ie: the thing between the list item number and the value of the list item). For example... 1. a) 1 - a: I need this ability to replicate government legislation and apparently it has to be an

Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator

2005-06-14 Thread Richard Czeiger
Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS List Separator Richard Czeiger wrote: Wondering how we can get CSS to specifity the spearator used in ordered lists As far as I can tell, you should be able to define that with the styles provided for automatic numbering and lists in CSS 2.1 http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21

Re: [WSG] the use of reset buttons on forms

2005-06-14 Thread Richard Czeiger
In terms of accessibility and usability... what's the difference between RESET and refreshing the page? R - Original Message - From: Andreas Boehmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:48 AM Subject: [WSG] the use of reset buttons on

Re: [WSG] Sydney and Melbourne WSG meetings tonight

2005-06-08 Thread Richard Czeiger
Would love to, Peter, but this month I have an engagement I can't get out of. See you next month... Richard :o) - Original Message - From: Peter Firminger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:46 AM Subject: [WSG] Sydney and Melbourne WSG

[WSG] Privacy Statements Standards

2005-05-09 Thread Richard Czeiger
Maybe we can steer it towards web standards? Anyone interested in Privacy as a standard should check out the W3C's Platform for Privacy Preferences http://www.w3.org/P3P/ This is a W3C Recommendation and has been around for a bit now... Richard :o)

Re: [WSG] IMAGE(was Mystical belief etc)

2005-04-20 Thread Richard Czeiger
Perhaps the point here should be: If you have a Flash Site and an HTML Site, then why not make the HTML Site accessible? It takes exactly the same amount of effort and it's not as though your design is extrameley difficult to be realised in standards compliant XHTML/CSS. Why not take a couple of

[WSG] New site: something for vegans

2005-04-20 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hi all ;o) Requesting a site check as well as design comments/suggestions... www.vfme.com Off-list responses encouraged, but if it's an issue you think everyone would benefit from please post on-list. BTW: if anyone wants to contribute a recipe, that would be great too! Many thanks, Richard

Re: [WSG] New site: something for vegans

2005-04-20 Thread Richard Czeiger
, Richard Czeiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all ;o) Requesting a site check as well as design comments/suggestions... www.vfme.com Off-list responses encouraged, but if it's an issue you think everyone would benefit from please post on-list. BTW: if anyone wants to contribute a recipe

Re: [WSG] markup readability (was: newspaper format)

2005-04-17 Thread Richard Czeiger
This is a great issue and one where I think the WSG can take the lead and put forward a standard. To Patrick's comment 'header' is a tricky one and your points about its print origins are very valid. Perhaps we can take that and still use the print reference by calling it 'masthead' as this

Re: [WSG] Skip Navigation Visibility

2005-04-14 Thread Richard Czeiger
Are users really *that* impatient? Does the physically disabled site user not even bother to see if the content on the page is worth-while? As a developer who believes in validation, would you not bother looking at a page if you you didn't see a little xhtml link at the bottom? Should we bother

Re: [WSG] Skip Navigation Visibility

2005-04-14 Thread Richard Czeiger
I accept the point, Russ. However, on a practical level, the concern that Ben expressed regarding accessibility compared to the importance of the content on the page is a decision the users need to make all the time and one that doesn't usually cost a lot: Interesting content... I guess I'll

Re: [WSG] Styling Forms

2005-04-04 Thread Richard Czeiger
How about plain old form elements? Example: style type=text/css form { font: 65%/1.2 verdana, sans-serif; margin-bottom: 3em; } fieldset { margin-bottom: 0.3em; border: none; } label { width: 160px; } label.radio { width: auto; } input, select, textarea { font-family: verdana; font-size: 1.0em;

[WSG] Suckerfish Sliding Doors Image Replacement with Current Page .. Navigation

2005-04-03 Thread Richard Czeiger
Let's combine a whole bunch of different CSS concepts and hope it works in everything. :o) Check out this link: http://www.grafx.com.au/wip/test/test.html Here's the CSS: http://www.grafx.com.au/wip/test/styles/style.css On the navigation: 1. The suckerfish drop down on "services" in the

[WSG] CSS in HTML Emails

2005-03-28 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hi all, Just wondering if there is a compatibility chart out there for CSS properties in HTML emails. We've got charts for the browsers, but what about email clients? Additionally, what about CSS support in mobile phone browsers? What browsers are used in which mobile phones? If anyone has

Re: [WSG] A HREF around a Flash Object?

2005-03-21 Thread Richard Czeiger
Use JavaScript to communicate to flash's command and arguments. Look up how to do this in Google. :o) Richard - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 10:14 AM Subject: [WSG] A HREF around a Flash Object? Hi

Re: [WSG] Asterisks in W3C spec

2005-03-15 Thread Richard Czeiger
In answer to your question, Sigurd - the asterisk indicates that that attribute is required for that elements (as opposed to optional). For example, if you use the img you MUST include a SRC and an ALT attribute for it to be valid. Cheers :o) Richard - Original Message - From: Sigurd

Re: [WSG] double space after period

2005-02-10 Thread Richard Czeiger
great comments thus far, but i think we're getting into the area where things are being said twice or getting into wy too fine a point. when exactly does this thread get closed? r - Original Message - From: Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday,

Re: [WSG] double space after period

2005-02-09 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hi guys, Here's a little script that might help this issue. It takes the element with the id of content and adds an extra white space at the end of a sentence to the existing one. This way, the code is still clean and you can have your whitespace cake and eat it too! :o) function addSpace() {

Re: [WSG] double space after period

2005-02-09 Thread Richard Czeiger
too true paul forgot about those nasty little buggers :o) oh well R :o) - Original Message - From: Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] double space after period At 03:31 PM 2/9/2005, Richard

Re: [WSG] Web app guidance/site comment

2005-02-06 Thread Richard Czeiger
nice work :o) you can get a badge! http://images.google.com/images?q=w3c+validationimgsz=iconhl=enlr=ie=UTF -8rls=GGLC,GGLC:1970-01,GGLC:enstart=20sa=N :o) R - Original Message - From: Brendan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 7:21

Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links

2005-01-12 Thread Richard Czeiger
/neerav Richard Czeiger wrote: Sure but this only works on, like, two browsers! Is there a funckier CSS hack kind of way? :o) Richard - Original Message - *From:* Kevin Futter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org mailto:wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

[WSG] Validate Accessibility

2005-01-05 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hi all :o) Just a quick query: we all know that to havre a little link on the bottom of the page to validate XHTML and CSS we can use a funky URL with the term "referer" in the address. What about Accessibility validation for Bobby or Cynthia? The only way I know how to do this is to

Re: [WSG] Centering thumbnails

2005-01-04 Thread Richard Czeiger
Had the same problem with my holiday snaps :o) Check out http://www.grafx.com.au/dik/region.html?MuiNe-1-21 for an example of how it's done. Hope this helps :o) R - Original Message - From: BonusOntwerp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005

[WSG] Template StyleSheet

2004-12-20 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hi all, Trying to find examples, resources that define how StyleSheets should be organised. There's been dicussion of how to arrange your classes and IDs and I'm just wondering, what about base generic styles that don't need to be referenced by class or ID... Does anyone out there start

Re: [WSG] breadcrumbs - nice implementation

2004-12-14 Thread Richard Czeiger
You can also do this with _javascript_:Here's the script I use that outputs the following (check out the title tag!):www.grafx.com.au :: v2 :: scripting :: breadCrumbs.html // Breadcrumbs Scriptvar path = "";var href = "">var s = href.split("/");for (var i=3;i(s.length-1);i++) {path+="a

Re: [WSG] A land of wasted web opportunity

2004-12-14 Thread Richard Czeiger
Ummm.. hate to gripe about this but... YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING! I don't know about many of you guys, but I'd love my company to be a member of the W3C. Considering my company has about 4 members of staff, I'm wondering where we can dig up the AUD $7765 for membership Still, it's a good

[WSG] Now you can Print Link URLs

2004-12-13 Thread Richard Czeiger
OK, so maybe I'm a little too bored/geeky for my own good... The following code fixes something that's been bugging me for a while. Everyone but IE seems to be able to use the "content" attribute in CSS. This bit of _javascript_ basically fixes that. Read the comments in the code and have

Re: [WSG] markup for postal addresses?

2004-12-06 Thread Richard Czeiger
Try address/address style type=text/css address { display: block; color: etc... } /style R :o) - Original Message - From: James Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 4:10 PM Subject: [WSG] markup for postal addresses? Hi all I'm trying to

Re: [WSG] markup for postal addresses?

2004-12-06 Thread Richard Czeiger
I think with things like this the KISS principle comes to mind... or if you prefer: Be Semantic - Not Pedantic :o) R - Original Message - From: James Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 4:10 PM Subject: [WSG] markup for postal addresses? Hi

Re: [WSG] List Item Separators

2004-12-05 Thread Richard Czeiger
As a way to nicely tie up this little thread... :o) Once you've put your border-left 1 pixel, use the DOM to find the UL (perhaps through an ID) and remove the first LI's border. IF JavaScript is turned off - you're no worse off... function listBorderKill() { if

[WSG] Site Check Please

2004-11-30 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hi all :o) Would appreciate any comments. PLEASE NOTE: Mac people - sorry not there yet, so don't even bother. I've served you up a crappy print style sheet :o( Here she is - http://www.grafx.com.au/wip/withPassion/ Thanks in advance :o) Richard

Re: [WSG] Site Check Please

2004-11-30 Thread Richard Czeiger
Thanks Ted and John :o) The disconnecting text is not something I can change as this design element was specified by the client. I've fixed the topNav -10px wierdness - only happened on the home page - quelle bizarre! :o) No hover effect on action items (yet) Top Nav landing pages do not exist

Re: [WSG] W3C REFERER FIX?

2004-11-29 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hi All - I've actually come across this before as well. But for my machine, this error only happens when trying to validate pages sitting on my hard-drive. The link is for the form that checks online pages. Upload your page to a server and try again :o) You can get heaps of bookmarklets that

Re: [WSG] Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE [OT?]

2004-11-11 Thread Richard Czeiger
Remember with the W3 Browser Stats that it's mainly developers and geeks who are checking this site out. I'm guessing most of the public (and corporate sector that we build sites for) are more inline with The Counter's results. :o) Richard - Original Message - From: Anthony Timberlake

Re: [WSG] Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE [OT?]

2004-11-11 Thread Richard Czeiger
I assumed these stats we gathered not only from their client base but from their internet.com suite of sites - surely used by corporate and IT... ? - Original Message - From: Natalie Buxton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Microsoft says Firefox not a threat to IE [OT?] Regarding

Re: [WSG] discussion at juicy studio: It's all in the MIME

2004-11-10 Thread Richard Czeiger
Sorry guys - I'm not sure what the issue is here... According to W3C, 'application/xhtml+xml' is the MIME type to use. I've put it pages and seen it not only validate, but also display correctly in IE5.0 and IE6. So I'm having trouble understanding what the problem with using this is... or why

Re: [WSG] discussion at juicy studio: It's all in the MIME

2004-11-10 Thread Richard Czeiger
: [WSG] discussion at juicy studio: It's all in the MIME Richard Czeiger wrote: According to W3C, 'application/xhtml+xml' is the MIME type to use. I've put it pages and seen it not only validate, but also display correctly in IE5.0 and IE6. If IE displayed the page, rather than prompt you

[WSG] Current Page Link in own Class

2004-11-09 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hi all :o) Just thought I'd add this. Don't know if anyone's using something like this but... Here's how to add a class to your navigation to make the current page stand out a bit more without putting it in the HTML. This also assigns the class to any sublevel nav items in nested ULs. Handy for

[WSG] Something new... LINE_HEIGHT

2004-11-03 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hi all :o) Can't find any reference to this little pecularity on the web... OK. So I learned that it's better to use numbers rather than em's or % as numbers are inherited. BUT! Whenever i have my line-height set to 1.4 (or 140% or 1.4em for that matter), all the underlines of my links

Re: [WSG] links with same names

2004-11-03 Thread Richard Czeiger
Personally, coming up with links that don't end in click here at the end of an article or section is something I find really difficult... The whole Find out more about ... at the bottom of each page looks too predictable. :o( Richard - Original Message - From: Andreas Boehmer [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] how so I stop all the postings coming to my email box?

2004-10-18 Thread Richard Czeiger
no secret handshake?! I'm outta here! ;oP Richard - Original Message - From: Peter Firminger To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 3:36 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] how so I stop all the postings coming to my email box? Hi Casey, While

Re: [WSG] web photo album

2004-10-14 Thread Richard Czeiger
Umm, Don't know if this is what you guys are after, but you can check out and use the code here: http://www.grafx.com.au/dik All done in XHTML, CSS and JavaScript. No database, no PHP. All you need is to use Photoshop's Automate feature and do a bulk rename in Windows for the images and

[WSG] XHTML external links

2004-10-05 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hi guys - having a little problem with the whole external links in XHTML strict. Code's below - doesn't seem to be working - can you help out? a href=http://www.google.com.au/; rel=externalnew window/a script function externalLinks() if (!document.getElementsByTagName) return; var

[WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links

2004-10-04 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hi guys, I'm putting together a semantically correct UL of links for my footer. I'd like to have them separated by 'pipes' as this is a common and easily recognised technique. But the pipes themselves are irrelevant (semantically). So here's what I've come up with... ALSO! My one thing is

Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links

2004-10-04 Thread Richard Czeiger
PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links For the line wrapping issue, you could try:whitespace: nowrap;On whatever element is giving you trouble.Cheers,Kevin FutterOn 5/10/04 11:28 AM, "Richard Czeiger" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys,I

Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links

2004-10-04 Thread Richard Czeiger
___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ On Tuesday, Oct 5, 2004, at 13:55 Australia/Sydney, Richard Czeiger wrote: Thanks for the feedback guys but the problem persists ! :o) While Neerav's solution puts pipes before the first and after the last - I am trying

Re: [WSG] Fluid Horizontal Lists

2004-10-04 Thread Richard Czeiger
Nup - collapses in IE :o( Richard - Original Message - From: Neerav [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Fluid Horizontal Lists just a quick thought that may be completely wrong, but have you tried % based padding for li ?

Re: [WSG] Reminder, Sydney WSG meeting tomorrow night

2004-09-14 Thread Richard Czeiger
I don't know while parking's a pain, I don't think it would take most folks over an hour to get there if they leave work at 5:30 ... R :o) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Reminder,

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