for web users.. just have
to specify FP7
to the content managers as required.
Regards
James Ellis
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the containing box width.
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Interesting... Opera 6 renders it ok, Opera 7 fails..
http://www.browsercam.com/projects/22944/398900_thumbnail.jpg
Plus, thanks for the reminder of how AOL looks... I can't believe people
actually pay for that noise.
Cheers
James
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Hi Ben
Notice in the CSS that you centre the content in the body with
body
text-align : center;
#content
margin : 0 auto;
how well does this work across browsers. Been looking for a way to do this for a
while, like the macromedia site.
Cheers
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Quick query - would a table data cell layout be more applicable to this?
If it's a product listing of related items I'd go for this - putting the img in
one cell and text in an adjacent cell...
Cheers
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Hi LIndsay
What about trying a descendant selector
E.g I've used
.blocka .code
{
color : #ff;
}
.blockb .code
{
color : #ff;
}
So you could try something like
#wsg A:hover
{
...
}
Not sure if this works on IEdows - other than that there may be an unfortunate
hack on MSDN.
James
:D
http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+google
See you all tonight..
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Sent: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 14:54:51 +1000
Subject: [WSG] Google glossary
A new define: syntax is
Hi James
I don't get the horizontal scroller in either IE6 or Mozilla/FB or
Opera7 (need to check Kafari)... here's the CSS:
#stupidclient
{
border : 3px inset #aaa;
background-color : #fff;
height : 200px;
width : auto;
overflow : auto;
padding : 2px;
}
It has a fixed height, auto width. If I
Windows XP or otherwise?
XP themes determine the style of button and widgets... styling them
with CSS will alter buttons but not drop down widgets.
This is in contrast to Safari which doesn't allow you to alter the
default button aqua style (to my knowledge).
I'm a bit lost here as well. If
Hi Ralph
I think it's the other way round - Safari works off Konquerer.
I doubt MS would want people to run older versions of their products. I
think they have enough headaches keeping Winternet Explorer secure..
Cheers
James
Ralph wrote:
I could be wrong, but isn't it possible to run
Hi all
Does Safari support border-collapse : collapse; in removing the
internal padding in a table?
My testing says no but could their be a workaround?
This is the CSS way around cellpadding and cellspacing
Cheers
James
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Miles :
Put your text in in a block set its margin-left to x pixels (.eg 170)
should be wider than the image (.eg 160).. The margin will run from
the left of the containing block.
This will work for fixed width images.
Cheers
James
Miles Tillinger wrote:
Oops, my fingers slipped onto the
Link : http://www.samspade.org/ if you want to GET the html source of a
page.
HTML encryption ranks up their with banning right click mouse events
Cheers
James
Mark Stanton wrote:
Does anyone know how this would work? It encrypts the source code so you
can view it but it is encrypted.
It
Hi all
I'm beating my head against a wall about this one... IE 5.5 and 6 is
putting in some mystery whitespace (looks like about 8-10 pixels - a
line) after a horizontal navigation list. This hor. list has a nested
list holding some text within it.
The UL tag is contained in a div - the
Excellent, will try that tomorrow at sparrows fart.
Cheers
James
Miles Tillinger wrote:
I should have included the rest of the post...
The extra linebreak vanishes if you specify padding-bottom or border-bottom.
I've opted for border-bottom. It's not ideal but it works.
Hi all
Anyone know if there is a reason why the title attr doesn't effect some
sort of contextual description next to the mouse (e.g a tooltip) but
plonks it in the status bar instead?
Cheers
James
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I can get reverse DNS for that domain, but ping of the domain fails
everytime and a traceroute stops in LAX about ten steps before the domain.
I can get the site up in a browser, though.
Cheers
James
Mark Stanton wrote:
Mark, when you say my Bluegrass Australia site isn't working for me, do
I wonder of this is the same problem as I was having, 'cept the content
below was walking down the page... nested list issue me thinks for that one.
Cheers
James
Tim Lucas wrote:
I have a serious case of text going walkies off the left hand side of
the page in IE:
http://www.twoslabs.com/
to Hyatt, the lead developer). However, my
understanding from an accessibility point of view is that Safari and
Opera are correct in their way of handling these at the moment (I
think I got that from Zeldman but may have dreamt it)
On 20 Nov 2003, at 03:08, James Ellis wrote:
Yeah yeah I've read
Hi
Scrollbars are browser widgets, not the viewport - this is why valid
CSS2 doesn't include the MS only values you mention.
Scrollbars are set by the OS - they should remain consistent with the
other programs a user is using to ensure a consistent experience. For
instance setting a scrollbar
The first one is better as you are not taking the box out of the flow of
the page. Using top and left with absolute positioning will do this...
For example if you had a fixed block to align center, then doing the
margins with top and left is difficult as you don't know the width of
the
I did some funky float stuff here:
http://my.spamtrap.net.au/join/howitworks/
content is floated to the right and has a fixed width. Inside content is
another right floated box with a quote in it.
Because of content's fixed width, navigation moves up as its width is
less than container width
Hi James,
I am probably lost, why would it matter what width the viewport is, if you
only care about having a box aligned to the
2please_jamescentre/2please_james that is 80% wide?
Hi,
Was referring to centering a fixed width box - can't really do this with
a variably size viewport and
..using a descendant selector...
#mydiv input
{
blah : blah;
}
#anotherdiv input
{
blah : blah;
}
That said, I've had some issues with getting markup to validate with
divs in forms.
Cheers
James
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Not really, there is no class on the submit, it's a class on the
surrounding block.. a label in this example. Better to use a class as
their may be more than one submit/reset on the page.
label class=submitbuttons for=... ...input type=submit...
//label
.submitbuttons
{
background-color :
rereading that it may not be clear, if you want to style the button in
the label you could do something like this...
label.submitbuttons input
{
rule : value;
}
wonder if just
.submitbuttons input
would work?
James Ellis wrote:
Not really, there is no class on the submit, it's a class
I've had some issues with validating XHTML with divs in a form. The not
allowed here message.
Anyone else get that?
Cheers
Jame
Ben Boyle wrote:
label.submitbuttons input
...
wonder if just
.submitbuttons input
would work?
Yep. This allows the submitbuttons class to be specified
You could always tell them to enter
http://[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In Internet Explorer, that'd really freak them out.
http://www.secunia.com/internet_explorer_address_bar_spoofing_test/
Now tell me that IE is a secure browser...
CHeers
James
Miles Tillinger wrote:
If I had a dollar for everytime
Not to miss the blessing of tabbed browsing where I can bookmark a group
of tabs, then open the tabs all in one go. I think the browsers that do
this are Mozilla and Safari - not sure about Opera 6/7.
Cheers
James
Mark Stanton wrote:
Yes my firebird links toolbar looks like:
-
what version of netscape?
Universal Head wrote:
Strange Netscape list button
behaviour
HELP!
http://universalhead.com/clients/oceanwavedigital/support_server.html
I've tried everything, but I can't work out why the CSS for the
left menu is not working properly in
Hey
Firebird is a beta, it has a few bugs, the latest nightly has more.
If you can replicate the bug in Mozilla and it's child browsers such as
Netscape 7 then you should chase it, otherwise it may be wise to wait
for 1.0 next year.
HTH
James
Ben Webster wrote:
Hey there WSG
Hi all
FYI, the Web Developer extension for Firebird has just been updated to
v0.5. It includes some nifty new stuff mostly to do with images.
It's an excellent little tool for debugging and speeding up development.
http://chrispederick.myacen.com/work/firebird/webdeveloper/
Cheers
James
Hi
vertical-align doesn't really work the way valign in a table cell works
- it applies to inline elements and table cell elements only (see css2
rec 10.8.1).
You have to approach the matter from the other way, remove the table
layout hat and put on a box model hat :
div id=topthing
div
Michael -
Looks like a case of the mystery white space, where IE adds about 4
pixels of whitespace to a div. I've had the same problem. When is a
pixel not a pixel? When you see it in IE
Why don't you add the strip bg images to the red bg image and have one
div instead of three?
HTH
Hi all
I saw Lindsay is presenting some stuff on xpath , xml etc at the next
meeting. For those interested and in Sydney there is a bargain basement
bookshop on the UTS side of the Central walkway tunnel (near Spice Boys)
that is selling good condition O'Really books for $5-$20 on the subject
I added some links a while back about kangxi radicals etc etc to the WSG
site
http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/#cat18
Interestingly you can do a quick script to test compatibility in
browsers for the various unicode characters..
$i=0;
while
print #.$i.;;
i++;
For most of the chrs, IE
How about setting the ul to 100% and the li to 90%.. so you are setting
li's to 90% of the ul..
Possibly could do this as well...
ul li
{
font-size : 90%;
}
HTH
James
Taco Fleur wrote:
Message
I
started using percentages for font-size after they were recommended on
this list.
Russ-
(1)
We need to use images size attributes to ensure that content is laid out
correctly on the screen while the image downloads. If I don't do this I
see a 32x32 pixel placeholder that then expands to the image size when
download begins
I wrote up a little php function that can do the
Gary Menzel wrote:
I've got a simple list of events with dates and am trying to keep it as a simple ordered list.
Well - at the risk of getting flamed (fire retardant underwear turned up
to full strength) - this looks to me like it should be a table.
There's nothing wrong with tables,
Hey
Thats a very nice site layout.
I hope this helps... it's off the top of my head and untested.
From what I can see you have two main content boxes, the top one
contains features and latest news. The bottom one contains audio,
lighting, staging.
So, for the top one you could have a div
Hey
Roger Hudson did a talk on accessible tables at Sydney moot last
year and the resource is available here:
http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/documents/doc_6_accesstable.html
and source here for Firebird users (I think Safari may handle this as
well?):
quote:
Another thing that the commenters generally aren't thinking of is how
to get adoption. I keep pointing out that if we fixed the CSS and PNG
issues, you still wouldn't be able to use those for years. Why? Cause
consumers (and companies) really don't care about those issues and won't
Hi all
For those who didn't make it, Russ in his presentation made a really
good point about cross browser implementation
Basically we can tweak to 6.7 different browsers but are the people who
view our sites going to do the same? Provided the content is structured
to be readable for our
Universal Head wrote:
Sorry, badly expressed. It doesn't work - ie the margin is 3px not 5px
- in Mac Safari and Mac Mozilla.
Hi
Nice page. Question: will the users of Mac Mozilla and Mac Safari be
turned off by the 2 pixel difference (unless it breaks the readability
of the content)? They
You should be able to run the following browsers on the same partition
in Windows:
Mozilla
Mozilla Firebird
Netscape 4,6,7
IE 3,4,5,5.5,6
Opera 5,6,7
iTunes
For more on running multiple IE's there is a post on this list late last
year from Mark Stanton I believe.
hth
James
Universal Head
Andrew :
See my tables or css post a while back for an example of this, copied
below. It may help out..
Hi
But then we have tables used as a layout device, and a form isn't
associated tabular data.. it's a user interface. What if we wanted to
present the form in a different way using
no worries,
accesskey is very important for those who use a keyboard to navigate a
page - as it can allow a keystroke to give focus to the label. Grouping
form fields with the correct tags is far better than using say a table
cell which can I believe adds a bit of confusion for screen reader
Miles,
...but what happens when you want to present the same form differently..
Write multiple sets of table markup or apply a different stylesheet for
one set of form based markup?
This is an important thing if you are building applications skinned for
e.g your product resellers.
Cheers
russ weakley wrote:
1. Hippy option
Embrace the web and accept that it isn't print. Then you can live with
slight differences. After all, you may have users who come to your site
using hand held devices, screen reads, text-only browsers, fridges, and a
huge variety of operating systems and
Scott:
scott parsons wrote:
Standards... yay
sure if you belong to this list you gotta support standards or else why
bother?
Well, not really. Belonging to a list doesn't mean you agree with
everything on it.
But
lately I have seen lots of people trying to find ways to validate their
Transparent PNG's are unsupported in IE/Win - you have to use some
DirectX malarkey to get that running (don't).
I haven't yet found any problems with normal PNG's but then I use PNG8
as a Gif replacement.
HTH
James
Anton Andreasson wrote:
Anyone knows of the support for background (24bit)
Try http://www.archive.org to show prior art... then send an extremely
specific email to them outlining the risks they are taking with some
links to your site on archive.org if possible.
Paul De Audney wrote:
Is there much I can do?
Or should I just deal
Taco
Two reasons I can think of...
*copy and paste with the mouse
*select text in a page and do a search for it in a search engine such
as Google.
Cheers
James
Taco Fleur wrote:
I don't knowfor what reason you
want your visitors to be able to select text, but mine is
Hi
This reminds me of something I've been wanting to do for while
Positioning a box that is in the document flow to the horizontal centre
of the screen is easy using margin : 0, auto; This doesn't seem to work
with position : absolute; - I'd like the (fixed width), absolutely
positioned
Hi
Flash will always come to the top as in the link below although this is
not due to the Active-x i-ness of the plugin (Flash is only an ActiveX
control for IE for Windows - see the object tag discussion at that
xml.com link I posted last week).
Have you tried using the object only Satay
Hi all
One for the Poms among us.
I've been milling around the PHP.net site this evening and noted that
'pawscon' is on...http://www.pawscon.com/... in Manchester, Ingerland.
Sessions look interesting...
http://www.pawscon.com/sessions
Looks like some nifty stuff including PHP with XSLT, XML,
Martin E wrote:
Hello,
Having said this, I
do like the colorizing of scrollbars, as it makes for a "branding" of
the site with the browser itself.
But I can't see your branding... let the user have their widgets.
Just my 1 1/2 cents,
Martin E.
Hey:
Would this be considered a correct thing to do? (for a fieldset tag)
border : none;
border-top : 2px solid #315279;
instead of
border-left : none;
border-right : none;
border-bottom : none;
border-top : 2px solid #315279;
(Most browsers will render a default border for a fieldset).
Mark Stanton and the Grudenites
..Are they playing live at the gig?
russ weakley wrote:
As Ben said, this is a radically different meeting to most of the WSG ones -
with an international star and a much larger group. Should be very exciting!
We hope all Sydney members can all make it.
We'll
Hi Peter
I think there are two things going on here
*(and this happens to everyone) Separating the presentation from the
content is a new thing. Everyone has trouble with it to start off, as is
true for most technologies - I'm a bit perplexed by XSLT and XPath at
the moment but I'm
Hi
Another thing to add to this discussion that came to mind is a new
window has no history. Auto opening a page in a new window takes away
the ability to navigate using traditional methods. Rather a user has to
close (multiple) windows (ever closed the wrong window?).
Cheers
James
Carl
Hi Chris
Try doing a right click on the taskbar, choose customize... and check
small icons.
HTH
James
Chris Stratford wrote:
I do use them both...
I have both open now, and always.
Just that CrazyBrowser seems a lot faster loading etc... and its got a
nice small interface, where Firebirds tabs
Peter Firminger wrote:
Sorry, I don't do PHP. Someone else may have a PHP solution for you.
P
I think I did a pretty long post a while back on this subject -
probably good to search for it in the archive.
Anyway, the PHP way to do the CF in Peter's example is:
$newString =
Taco
You probably want to wrap the input withing the label, although it's
not required:
"
The LABEL element associates a label with a form control. By
associating labels with form controls, authors give important hints to
users of speech browsers while also allowing visual browsers to
u are creating the form dynamically, so
just add an iterator to the end of your id's for both input and label.
for=""
id="car0"
for=""
id="car1"
and still happily use
name="cars[]"
Regards
Chris Blown
On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 15:03, James Ellis
Hi Chris
This is an important point they have raised - they are looking at
peripheral vision. We see a circle of about 6cm on screen in one go -
anything larger we have to move our eyes to take in more. This is why
newspapers tend to be in columns etc etc.
The Zed man has some good writeups
This is a bit existential, but can a list have one item?
ul
liOliver Twist/li
/ul
If I'm generating the list using server side script, and I don't know
how many items will be returned, I suppose it's ok to have one item?
When is a list not a list anymore?
Cheers
James
Peter
Probably because Firefox/bird and Camino etc browsers are all
built/branched off the same standards compliant engine. Firefox 0.8 is
built off Mozilla 1.6 - Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6)
Gecko/20040207 Firefox/0.8 which is in turn built off Gecko. If it was
its own
Hi all
Came across this a while back and thought I´d share it, some have
probably already done it...
When making a horizontal list the general way to do this is with list
elements floated, left or right:
ul
liitem0/li
liitem1/li
liitem2/li
liitem3/li
liitem4/li
/ul
/* css */
ul li
{
float :
Chris
Have you tried :
#id form
{
margin : 0;
padding : 0;
}
? It's always good to do this so as not to leave the margin and padding
size to the user agent.
Every UA will default to it's own spec if not told otherwise. Hopefully
they'll listen to us.
Cheers
James
Chris Stratford wrote:
Is
Hi Cameron-
Setting a list item to display inline can possibly cause some problems
with breaking items over a line. Using floats can help push longer list
items to the next line (if the containing block width is less than the
sum of the list item widths) and retain the general structure of the
Hi
At ALA
http://alistapart.com/articles/doctype/
It's about using the right doctype, rather than a background on them -
but may help out.
Cheers
James
JW wrote:
Uhhh this project requires rebuilding the site from tables to css and to
xhtml strict. I can feel my nightmare next to me already.
I
Peter
You can add your own meta data if you want. (take a look at the
macromedia.com website -
http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/ts/documents/fail_load_fp7.htm
as an e.g).
This makes it really easy for internal tracking of pages, internal
searches etc - as Peter F said, the external
Hi all
Just had a squiz at Safari 1.2 and whatever version/improvement of khtml
it uses now looks to support the collapsing border model
(border-collapse). Also title attributes are rendered as contextual
tooltips with text in the status bar.
Nice to see a browser maker reacting to requests/
Different browsers react differently - Opera doesn't show the padlock
icon in this case (the page isn't secure as Mark pointed out), Moz will
show a broken padlock icon and IE will go on read alert.
This occurs with anything bought in over http when the main page is
requested over https (e.g
Chris
Try
overflow : auto; height : 400px;
Cheers
James
Chris Stratford wrote:
Hey WSG,
Im looking for some help re: Overflow...
Now I have my page: www.neester.com setup.
The content frame cannot be less than 400px high...
min-height: 400px;
That works in Mozilla and a few other browsers -
Chris
Moz is actually doing the right thing here - with the height of 400px
and overflow on.
I took the overflow and height from outer-content and it works fine in
Mozilla. You may then see the peekaboo bug pop in IE cause by the
floating navigation - in which case set a height of 100% on
Jeff
You have an incomplete doctype - the browser will be operating in quirks
mode. Try fixing this and see if pain persists, consult the list. :D
You have
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN
Should be:
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
James
Miles Tillinger wrote:
That's kinda risky though if the content is dynamic because one long line could break the layout. I try to avoid using nowrap's or non-breaking spaces wherever possible. Just my $0.02...
MT
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From: James Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent
Jaime -
Moving to descendant selectors really helped me minimise the amount of
classes and ids I ended up using - which saves line space.
You could also divide your stylesheet up into different files - one for
navigation, one for layout, one for headings etc etc - then link (or
however you do
Hi
In IE in Win32, a background image for a fieldset lines up with the
top of the legend tag rather than the top border of the fieldset :
background-image
- legend --
background-image
The top border appears in the middle of the legend as above.
In other browsers the background-image
Hi
One of the many RFC's on the subject is a good place to start. Use of
plain text is highly recommended. Check out the SitePoint newsletters
for good emails in plain text. If you do write an HTML email, stick with
a small subset of HTML or send the newsletter etc as a PDF attachment if
your
Kim
In what way do you want to float it vertically? If you want to sit a box
in the vertical middle of another box, set its top and bottom margin to
be the same:
--
top margin
box
---
bottom margin
-
margin : 30px 0px;
vertical-align :
-mail
and have them be hot? That seems to be the main thing I use HTML in
an e-mail for.
James Ellis wrote:
... Use of plain text is highly recommended.
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Hello Peter
Here's my thoughts:
Universal Head wrote:
Forms on Websites
Is there a good place that explains/makes available the coding
involved for putting simple forms on sites? My programming knowledge
doesn't go beyond css, xhtml and using JavaScript nuggets, but I've
always wanted to be
Seona
There are a number of ways to do this - the easiest way to do it is by
populating some style tags dynamically from data in the db using a
script language such as CF or PHP etc (although that can add
pageweight). Another way would be to save a css file on the server for
each person and
I believe Calendars would be a great use of floats, just set a height
and width, float left limit the row float to seven days and you have a
cascading day based calendar.
Cheers
James
Jaime Wong wrote:
Just a quick question Russ to make sure I understand better.
Calendars and events (with
Peter
Nice one, works well with styles and images turned off as well.
The validator is having some issues with link rel=shortcut icon
try
link rel=icon ... / instead and you'll have a valid site!
Also, if you ever move to Strict, the language attribute in your script
tag won't be needed - the
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This doesn't validate either - does anyone have the correct
validating code for inserting a favicon?
Peter
On 12/03/2004, at 12:50 PM, James Ellis wrote:
The validator
about the file format.
Cheers
Chris Blown
http://hinterlands.com.au
On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 13:35, Universal Head wrote:
This doesn't validate either - does anyone have the correct
validatingcode for inserting a favicon?
Peter
On 12/03/2004, at 12:50 PM, James Ellis wrote:
The validator
Hi Maureen
How about making the logo a background-image with background-position :
top right; in the box you wish? If the image adds meaning to the page
(i.e requires an alt tag for people browsing without images) then this
is probably not the best thing to do. If the heading/text conveys
Hi all
A quick troll through the extensionroom at mozdev this lazy sunday
afternoon showed up some interesting tools that may be of help when
developing/designing/tweaking your next masterpiece:
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SSR (http://disruptive-innovations.com/products/index.html#SSRXPI)
quote:
Disruptive
Hi Peter
Yes, you wouldn't want to check in them all. Of course their are
outliers, such as organisations with NS4 installed as the default
browser, but other than those situations it comes down to a business and
standards based (future business :D ) decision:
Business:
How long is it going
Hi
Don't be put off by the 3% figure --
It would be interesting to see the results of a moving to standards
based poll. This would be more reflective of the current status of web
standards around the globe, I feel - it's what a lot of us are trying to
do at the moment.
Remember that the
Marco
Setting a form to display inline will negate the use of blocks inside it
(i,e fieldset, p, div, label). It would be more feasible to allow the
form element to be displayed as default and be explicit about the margin.
References:
http://htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/forms/form.html
Hi
Is that visibility : hidden; ? - display : none will cause a box to not
be rendered, visiblity : hidden (CSS2 11.2) will just make it invisible,
like Kevin Bacon in that really bad movie.
Another point to pick up on this discussion was seen with Peter's cinema
site - doing something like
Hello Kim
To decrease email traffic this kind of request should be directed to Google.
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http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?p=dictString=exactAcronym=afaik
Best regards
James
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Kim Buttery wrote:
Please explain your acronym AFAIK. Thanks.
Leslie
You (and others) may be interested in CMML via the CSIRO -
http://www.annodex.net/index.html.
The Annodex technology extends the World Wide Web's hyperlinking,
searching, and compositing infrastructure to time-continuous data,
enabling e.g. /video surfing/, searching for clips of audio
Hi
Firefox is still in beta as well (I believe it is branched off the
Mozilla 1.6 alpha build). The current Mozilla is 1.6 and Firefox 1.0
will most likely branch off 1.7 [1]. Developing to a beta's
idiosyncrasies is fraught with danger, the best place to get them ironed
out for Firefox is
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