Hi Keith and All, Which of these facts do you despute? The embargo is still there because of Fidel keeping it in place with killing people, do you understand that? Every time we have tried to normalize relations he does something like this to stop it. This is a fact. Everyone and thing in Cuba is owned by the state, I like how you ignore that. This is a fact. Why does most of the population want to leave Cuba? This is a fact. Can you be equal and be owned by the state? Equal slavery? Would you like to be owned by the state? All the good stuff goes to party members who make sure there is no freedom of speech, movement, land ownership, ect. This is a fact. Living most of my 48 years amoung the Cuban refugees in Tampa and Key West, actually being in Cuba, and following Cuba closely gives me much more insight into the workings of Cuba. BTW I'm not fond of the refugees either. They are either the elite from the Batista regime or the criminals he let out of jail so he wouldn't have to feed them to a large degree. I'm comfortable with my facts because of first hand experence with Cuba and it's people. What experence do you have? You don't think that they can con people that are there for only a short time and are limited on who they can talk to? If you don't you are more niave than I thought. Hell, the media even in free countries have a hard time getting things right. If you went there for a while you would know. My mind is open which is not in your case. I wish for a free Cuba, do you? Just because they grow organicly doesn't mean they are good people. They grow organicly because the regime is bankrupt and can't afford any other way. This is a fact.. Have you seen what Fidel has done to the ecology of Cuba. He destroyed it by turning much of the land into sugar fields. Very little of natural Cuba is left and the fields are so bad that they hardly grow sugar. This is a fact. Why do all the boats, ships sailing in the windward passage have to hug the Bahamian shore even though it's more dangerous that sailing in the middle of it? It's because they confiscate or/and hold for ransom any ship, boat they can even in international waters. These are facts. Tell your story to the 4 people he shot out of the sky in international waters and the Bahamains in Bahamain waters that he ordered shot and killed to keep the US from normanlizing relations. These are just the tip of their willingest to do anything to stay in power. This is a fact. I can see straight, it's you who is putting your head in the sand. If non-party Cubans in Cuba would see your post they would laugh at the foolish gringo. They know the true meaning of hunger and lack of freedom. This is a fact. Again it's mostly the party members and tourist hotels that get the produce, not the regular people. BTW they do have a ministry of propaganda directly under Fidel, check it out. My facts are verifiable, jerry dycus --- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same ol' story, eh, Jerry? What makes you feel > comfortable is > "facts", any other view is "propaganda". BBC? > Propaganda. Oxfam? > Propaganda. Fact-finding missions by delegations of
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