Hallo Ron, Turn your question around on yourself brother. Let's say you have all the military experience in the world but you are content to believe the hogwash dumped into your consciousness by a blatantly biased government working hand-in-hand with a blatantly biased big business community and then you, without checking to see whether or not you are getting the truth, all the truth not just the parts which make one thing look like another, and you go out and act on that information as if it were from the mouth of GOD, and that is what a good many people, particularly those in the military, are doing then how does that make it any better or different to those who believe a "blatantly biased anti military press"?
The press is mainly just a dis-information service for the government in most things. Did you ever wonder why some of the press might be anti military? Have you noticed that in My Lai it was a lowly lieutenant who bit the bullet? Did you notice that it is a few enlisted and a female reserve general who bent over for the military while those in actual control who dictated the actions are merrily whistling on their way? Do you understand that in actual fact you have to carry out an unlawful act and report it after the fact? That isn't the way it is written but that is how it works. Are you aware that Richard Clarke, Colin Powell's intel chief, told Powell FOUR MONTHS before his UN presentation that not only had the intel not shown the info Powell was going to give to be true it had shown it to be false? Are you aware that Lt. Col. Kwaitkowski who was an intel analyst in the Near East South Asia section of the Middle East Policy Directorate of the Pentagon reports that political appointees with political agendas were installed in the Pentagon and that all intelligence was run through them to the president and that bits and pieces of the intel were woven together to support a preconceived and false conclusion? Todd does his homework brother. If the first hand experience you are speaking of is sighting down a barrel and pulling the trigger on some poor bastard you don't even know then he doesn't need it and neither does anyone else. What they don't tell you when you enlist is that when that happens you have to live with yourself for the rest of your life with the knowledge of what you have done and sooner or later that will come back and bite you in the ass. You can take that to the bank. I'm living with that 40 years later. My uncle lived with that from the first world war on. My father from the second world war on and my cousin from Korea on. And these poor kids in Iraq are going to bring that back home with them and carry that in their hearts for the rest of their lives. Thank God Todd doesn't have any first hand experience. It is unfortunate that so many of us do and will. My kids won't. They may die for their country but they won't kill for it. When people talk about rendering unto Caesar they should remember that Caesar may have given them a place to live but not their lives and Caesar has no right to force one to render someone else's life unto him. Happy Happy, Gustl Saturday, 04 June, 2005, 05:01:04, you wrote: r> So what you are saying is, you have NO first hand experience. That you r> are content to spread second hand info spewed out by a blatantly r> biased anti military press. And bases on NO first hand info you are r> content to accept all the flotsam they give you and pass it along as if r> it were from the mouth of GOD. Does that about sum it up? r> Ron r> Appal Energy wrote: >> Ron, >> >> Why would you find it necessary to try and delve into personal >> exeriences when the public record and the dis-service to America is >> blatantly and patently apparent? -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. ******** We can't change the winds but we can adjust our sails. ******** The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, "The Screwtape Letters" ******** Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Straße liegen, daß sie gerade deshalb von der gewöhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. ******** Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin ******** The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. William Wordsworth _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
