> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 11:29:04 -0400 > From: brettcornw...@lavabit.com > To: dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com; ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: Re: Aptitude installed by default on 13.10? > > On 04/09/2013 08:21 AM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > <snip> > > Maybe I was not very explicit - all console applications are "niche" > > on the Ubuntu (gui) Desktop. And vice versa, gui-desktop applications > > are nice on the Ubuntu (console) Server. > > > > We have aptitude seeded where console is the default interface. > > > > On ubuntu-desktop the default interface is unity with preferred > > package management using: > > - dash application scope > > - software updater > > - software center > > > > Depending on the use-case/goal one uses one or combination of above. > > > I don't understand - why don't we just remove apt-get and make users > install via the software center? Why not add-apt-repository, scp, top? > My suggestion was just to add aptitude because it's the recommended > package-management tool from the community that basically makes all the > packages possible for this project. > > So the drawbacks of including aptitude seem to be: > > 1) It takes up 2 MB of space 2 mb more no makes the difference.. > 2) Dependency resolution might have to actually be tested (instead of > making every stupid package just depend on ubuntu-desktop or xorg?). ;) +1 > > > On Ubuntu Desktop we want to discourage usage of command line =) as > > there is no need for that for non-developers. > > I see, so an OS for 'everyone' shouldn't even have gnome-terminal > installed at all - make people switch to a VT (and why hasn't that been > disabled by default? I'd bet my life savings that every user has > accidentally hit CTRL+ALT+F1 at least once on their Ubuntu use - now > THAT'S an issue to really actively prevent). There are some strange > priorities set based on these phobias. Again, I'm not suggesting an > arbitrary specialized tool like vim/emacs get included, I'm suggesting > the addition of the endorsed CLI package management tool from the Debian > project be included. So if the project were to (understandably) want to > include only one CLI tool to use, why not aptitude? As stated, it's > already officially supported on ubuntu-server, why not include it on > ubuntu-desktop and drop apt-get to reduce a package to have to > officially support? > > And who said I was a developer? I'd only be so lucky to be able to claim > that title. > > > -- > Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list > Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss
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