Proposition: "However if there is muon decay at all - they should be seeing a signal at 511 keV."
Detection of radiation is not applicable to the LENR sensing application because LENR thermalize any radiation emitting in a wide zone around the LENR reaction. If this were not so, Holmlid and Rossi would be dead now. On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: > Axil - That is an interesting point and it is worth following up on - > since muon decay is so energetic that even a tiny anisotropy could amount > to the small differential on the null side. However if there is muon decay > at all - they should be seeing a signal at 511 keV. > > > > It would be easy to confirm and intensify - since the axial magnetic field > is small from the heater windings and could be greatly boosted by placement > of permanent magnets (if positioned in such a way that they did not > overheat) > > > > *From:* Axil Axil > > > > @Jones > > > > This possible heat production by the dummy is a interesting and not well > appreciated complication of Muon production. > > > > If muons are produced by the active reactor, they could be producing heat > in the dummy reactor. > > > > The heater could be producing a axial magnetic field the pushes most of > the muons into the dummy reactor. > > > > This is how I beleive that the mouse/cat configuration works for Rossi. > > > > The dummy might well require complete isolation from the active reactor to > see a valid delta temperature difference. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: > > Another strange possibility to consider – with which to account for lower > than expected performance on the active side, and in fact the null side > being slightly warmer for a unexpected proportion of the time is this: the > null side could be active as well in a lower temperature range. > > > > Otherwise, both sides should be almost identical. If hydrogen, even in > trace amounts, collects on the so-called null side, and if the SPP modality > is playing a role in excess heat, then both sides can be gainful under > different parameters - since a metal catalyst per se is not needed – or > stated another way, the dielectric/gas interface on the null sides > functions as the catalyst for SPP formation. > > > > This possibility becomes far more relevant if there was anomalous > radiation, as seems to be the case. > > > > *From:* Craig Haynie > > > > Here is a video, queued to the time shortly after the green (active) > thermocouple became hotter than the purple (control) thermocouple. The > control had been running a couple of degrees hotter, previously. The > change-over occurred shortly after raising the power to the point where the > temperature went above 1020c. The timing couldn't really have been much > better. This occurred at 2016-04-16 02:00 UTC. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUyWnN--u7M&feature=youtu.be&t=13188 > > Craig > > On 04/16/2016 11:27 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > > This temperature differential is more meaningful than it seems since some > of the excess heat on the active side goes to heat the null side. > > > > The basic concept of comparative calorimetry is good, and this ceramic is > not a great conductor of heat, but there is a conductive pathway between > the two sides, which could possibly have been made less in an improved > design. Actually the heater wire itself could be part of the heat transfer > problem. > > > > *From:* Craig Haynie > > > > The optical imager is typically reading between an 18c and 20c difference. > > Craig > > Eric Walker wrote: > > Interesting. I hope a post-run calibration shows that when the fuel is > removed, the active and null outside temperatures return to one another to > within experimental uncertainty. This will be critical to show before > concluding anything. > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Craig Haynie <cchayniepub...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > 60c on the latest... > > https://youtu.be/VLK19pllG9g?t=6278 > > > On 04/16/2016 10:53 AM, Eric Walker wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 2:01 AM, CB Sites <cbsit...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I have to say. This one is pretty fascinating. At 1000+C they had a > delta T of 30C between a fueled and unfueled cell that lasted for hours, > until I gave up. > > > > At what time in the video did you see this? When I skipped through the > video, I always saw the "Outside heater active" (the green line) slightly > lower than the "Outside heater null" (purple line). Perhaps you're > referring to a delta between different numbers than these? > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > > > > >