On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 6:06 PM, H LV <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Does it necessarily require a violation of CoE?
>> It could be we don't know enough about nuclear matter to know how to
>> build or take apart nuclei with much less energy.
>>
>
> It's not necessarily a matter of COE; e.g., perhaps most of the energy was
> quietly dissipated via neutrinos, following Robin's suggestion.  But if
> there is a nuclear transformation from not-iron to iron, and neutrinos were
> not a big factor, then the physics is straightforward:
>
>   E = mc^2 = [ (mass of not-iron) - (mass of excess iron) ] c^2 = [delta
> mass] c^2
>
> If for some reason this situation does not hold, then it seems to me that
> the CoE discussion comes up again.
>
> Eric
>
>
​What is the "bond" energy of a nut and bolt? Does the amount of energy
that is required to literally slam together a bolt and a nut correspond to
the energy required to screw them together? Equations are poor guides if
the situation is modeled in inaccurately.

Harry

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