I believe that W=L theory proposes that LENR is initiated by strong
focusing of E-M fields on metal hydride surfaces.  I may be
misunderstanding, but wouldn't activation energy loss be too small to
detect in the energy released?

I don't understand Jones Beenes' point.
If correct - how do neutrons decay into e-, p+ and neutrino?


David Roberson wrote on Mon, 20 Feb 2012:
>
> I am beginning to get the impression that you are not a fan of the Widom
> Larsen theory.  That is not a difficulty as far as I can determine since
> my question is mainly an attempt to approach the problem from another
> point of view.  It seems that we are spending a lot of effort trying to
> figure out where the net activation energy arises when I think it is a
> good idea to look for that energy from within the reaction products.
> There is more than enough energy released by the LENR effect than required
> to initialize it.  Does it not seem logical to search for the missing
> energy in a location which has excess energy?
>
> The correct LENR theory may already exist in some form, but I have not
> detected anything resembling a consensus thus far.  What experiments can
> be conducted to weed out the concepts that are not correct?  Are there any
> ideal tests that would prove a particular theory beyond reasonable doubt?
>
> Please understand that I am attempting to think outside of the normal box.
>  Sometimes an alternate approach to problems ignites a fuse.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Mon, Feb 20, 2012 6:49 pm
> Subject: RE: [Vo]:A brief, semi-classical take on Widom-Larsen theory
>
>
> Not sure where you are going with this - but the simple explanation of all
> s it cannot happen, due to conservation of spin.
> Two half-spin fermions cannot fuse to form a half-spin neutron. Otherwise
> ydrogen would be unstable and spontaneously form neutrons.
>               From: David Roberson
>               I have a question that has bugged me for quite some time now
> nd maybe one of you would humor me with a simple explanation.
>
>       Do we have to consider the total energy required for a P + e
> o become a N to have to arise out of a non active material?
> Oh sure - if you have a relativistic beam line with which to arbitrarily
> onvert energy into mass of any variety, such as creating a neutrino to
> arry away the extra spin - then you can do it; but the energy balance is
> so
> op-sided that it is irrelevant for practical purposes.
> Once again, Widom Larsen theory is brain dead from start to finish.
> Jones
>
>


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