Too many points to address.

Perhaps, the Celani-Srivastava presentation at the March 22 CERN LENR
Colloquium will discuss them, since Srivastava is a proponent.


Jones Beene wrote:

> Well - all of us on vortex would love to be able to focus on a consistent
> theory that works. W-L theory seems to be a continuing waste of our time
> for
> understanding Ni-H - for many major reasons (I have combined Ed Storms'
> objections with my own here):
>
> 1) No neutron activation seen - neutron activation could not be avoided if
> the theory was valid.
>
> 2) The technology and literature on "ultra low temperature" neutrons is
> well
> known and bears no resemblance to the Larsen invented species: "ultra low
> momentum" neutrons. How could the two be different?
>
> 3) Energy cannot spontaneously concentrate on an electron to levels of in
> excess of  760,000 eV to provide a minimal basis for a neutron. (Second
> Law)
>
> 4) Electrons at moderate temperatures cannot store energy beyond the
> energy
> levels available in a chemical systems, far below 0.76 MeV.
>
> 5). Energetic electrons at less than relativistic energies do not react
> with
> protons to make neutrons. (Conflict with observation and violation of
> conservation of spin)
>
> 6). Neutron addition to nickel produces well-known nuclear products that
> are
> not observed. (Conflict with copious observation)
>
> 7). Neutron addition requires emission of gammas of known energy, which is
> not observed. (Conflict with experience and theory)
>
> 8). Radioactive transmutation products should be present and are not seen.
>
> These are all major objections, and there are dozens more minor
> objections.
> Any one of these will invalidate W-L.
>
>               It seems that we are spending a lot of effort trying to
> figure out where the net activation energy arises when I think it is a
> good
> idea to look for that energy from within the reaction products.  There is
> more than enough energy released by the LENR effect than required to
> initialize it.  Does it not seem logical to search for the missing energy
> in
> a location which has excess energy?
>
> No problem there. This is QM - and energy can be "borrowed in advance of
> being repaid", as they say. But there are no neutrons. That much is
> completely clear.
>
>               What experiments can be conducted to weed out the concepts
> that are not correct?
>
> First - we need to know for sure if there are absolutely zero gammas
> during
> operation or not. Bianchini says zero from the best available testing.
> Rossi
> says some, but offers no data; and DGT says some, but offers no data.
>
> If we knew the spectrum, and the net energy of gammas relative to the
> thermal output - there is little doubt that a workable theory could be
> framed.
>
> But it will not include anything from W-L - unless neutron activation is
> documented.
>
> Jones
>


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