On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:59 PM, <mix...@bigpond.com> wrote: Note that fast ions will also lose energy by ionizing atoms, creating more > angry > bees, so it doesn't really matter which path is followed. > The amount of energy used to create bees is pretty much the same, either > way. >
It's also interesting to note that a lot of the ingredients discussed in this thread have been mentioned in connection with Papp's "noble gas engine" -- heavy atoms whose electron fields could potentially expand, hydrogen (presumably with deuterium), and possibly an alpha or beta emitter. It would not be too surprising if further research eventually shows that a noble gas engine is a real possibility. Eric