The carbony Ni particles used by DGT, as was shown in Kim's presentation,
have NO nanowires at all.


On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not for the first time, with amazing generosity, DGT has provided us with
> a picture of a 5 micron nanowire coated micro-particle in their ICCF-18
> presentation that they have originally engineered base on suggested
> information derived from Rossi’s revelations.
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> There must be a million nanowires coming off that fuzzy looking
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> If 10 nanoparticle aggregation form on each nanowire tip and 100 hot spots
> from inside each aggregation, that drive the NAE count for each
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> If 10,000,000 micro particles as used in the 3 grams of nickel power
> reaction activator, then the NAE count goes up to 10 to the 16 power of
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> Clearly, this micro-powder covered with nanowires approach to the reaction
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> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote:
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>> Peter, I'm simply telling you what your comments mean to me. I'm not
>> thinking in your place. If I have gotten the wrong understanding from what
>> you have written, than you are free to tell me and to correct your writings
>> so that other people do not also get the wrong impression, which is clearly
>> the case.
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>> I do not think a crack is equally active along its length. I'm only
>> proposing that somewhere in the gap, the fusion reaction is possible. I
>> have described ALL aspects of the model. I'm only giving the broad
>> requirements. Once these are accepted, you will be told more details.  I
>> see no reason to waste my time if the basic claim is rejected. I would
>> rather spend my time using the model to make the effect work.
>>
>> Ed
>> On Aug 23, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Peter Gluck wrote:
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>> Dear Ed.
>>
>> I would ask you to not think in my place, I really don't like it.It is
>> typical for dictatures and I had enough from it starting with :"Der Fuhrer
>> denkt fur uns alle" and ending with Ceausescu's omniscience. I have the
>> right to think independently.
>> Citing you:
>> *you are assuming that D+Pd involves a different mechanism, a different
>> NAE, and different nuclear products. *
>> Clearly the products of reaction are different for Pd and Ni H simply
>> because
>> the reactants are different. I have NOT told that the mechanism of
>> reaction
>> are different.
>> A question for you- a crack however beautiful is inherently very
>> asymmetric
>> do you think a crack nanometers broad but microns or even millimeters long
>> is equally active along its entire lengths? Isn't it more plausible that
>> inside
>> this labyrinthic formation there are some even more preferential short
>> areas
>> where the activity is focused? And are you convinced that thse short areas
>> are so different from a nanostructure? Couldn't be the things a bit more
>> complicated but actually more unitary- as you otherwise also suggest?
>>
>> I think it is not possible to decide now sitting at our PC's if Nature
>> uses
>> only one soltion or more for creating excess energy. It is more useful
>> to find new ways to force Nature to give us what we need and want
>> and not care so much if she is whining a bit for that.
>>
>> Peter
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>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote:
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>>> On Aug 23, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Peter Gluck wrote:
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>>> Dear Bob,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the idea of cracks' aesthetics! I know it well, I think
>>> you have remarked the second Motto by Leonard Cohen based
>>> on this idea..
>>> It happens that very early in my professional career I learned about the
>>> beauty and variety of cracks -when working at the Civil Engineering
>>> Faculy of the Timisoara- Polytechnics, Chair of Concrete. It is a world
>>> of cracks in concrete see e.g.
>>> http://indecorativeconcrete.com/idcn/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Why-Concrete-Cracks.pdf
>>> Mistery and beauty are different from function. Let's admit the possible
>>> role
>>> cracks in Pd in the FPCell, is this something good for the results?
>>> However Paintelli's process is based on very smart and beautiful
>>> nanostructures more sophisticated and educated as cracks, and LENR+ uses
>>> the high art of nanoplasmonics.
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>>> How do you know this Peter?  Besides, you are assuming that D+Pd
>>> involves a different mechanism, a different NAE, and different nuclear
>>> products. Consequently, the number of miracles is squared rather than
>>> reduced. Do you really want to go down that path? What happens the effect
>>> occurs using Ti?  Does this involve an additional method and mechanism?
>>>  What how is tritium formed? Is this reaction different in Ni compared to
>>> Pd?
>>>
>>>  I believe the phenomenon is so rare and unusual that only one condition
>>> and mechanism would be able to cause it. You take the opposite view, that
>>> every material and isotope requires a different method and NAE.  This gives
>>> people a choice. I wonder how the vote would go?
>>>
>>> Ed
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>>> Peter
>>>
>>> ,
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>>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Bob Higgins 
>>> <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Recently, Peter published in his blog his reasons for hoping that the
>>>> NAE aren’t cracks. After considering it, I believe he misses the
>>>> uniqueness, durability, and beauty of the cracks that are being considered.
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> To the uniqueness point…  Consider that a crack is different than just
>>>> two surfaces in close proximity. A crack is like a horn with a throat of
>>>> minimum gap: the lattice spacing.  Imagine the throat at x=0 with the crack
>>>> surface spacing widening as x increases.  The crack provides a unique
>>>> environment in its smallest regions.  Near x=0, the environment for a
>>>> hydron asymptotically approaches that of the lattice.  In this region,
>>>> electron orbitals extend across or at least into the crack.  Perhaps in
>>>> this near-lattice spacing there is only room for an H+ ion (the case for
>>>> Ni, but for Pd there is room at the lattice spacing for a neutral monatomic
>>>> hydron).  As x increases, the crack surface spacing (the gap) increases
>>>> allowing room for neutral monatomic hydrons.  At greater x, the crack
>>>> spacing would support neutral H2 molecules, and beyond this, the crack is
>>>> probably uninteresting.  This unique gradient of hydron boundary conditions
>>>> always exists in the crack near it throat (near x=0), even if the crack
>>>> were to begin zipping itself open.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> To the durability point…  In my past I had occasion to work with MEMS
>>>> structures.  When I first saw MEMS cantilever beams being used for switches
>>>> and other functions, my first thought was, “Those are going to break!”
>>>> What I learned was that a structure’s strength is inversely proportional to
>>>> its size.  So a building scaled twice as large will be half as strong.
>>>> This is why you can drop an ant from as high as you wish and he will hit
>>>> the ground running.  Compare a 3 meter diving board (cantilever) to a 3
>>>> micron cantilever – the 3 micron cantilever will be a million times more
>>>> robust.  The cracks being considered for NAE are nanoscale cracks, but our
>>>> natural experience is with cracks having dimensions of ~1cm.  A 10nm crack,
>>>> will be a million times more mechanically robust than a 1cm crack.  At the
>>>> nanoscale, the two split apart surfaces will be very stiff and behind the
>>>> throat of the crack (x<0) there will be compression forces trying to
>>>> restore the crack to its closed position.  The surfaces may also experience
>>>> a Casimir closing force.  A nanoscale crack will have strong forces trying
>>>> to heal itself.****
>>>>
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> If nanocracks can heal, then how would the nanocrack form in the first
>>>> place and what could keep the surfaces apart?  I believe a wedge of atom(s)
>>>> or molecule(s) is needed in the gap to keep the crack open, and perhaps to
>>>> form it in the first place.  That is why I am using nanoparticles that will
>>>> alloy with Ni and then I am oxidizing the structure.  I use iron oxide
>>>> nanoparticles.  I put down the oxide nanoparticles disposed all across the
>>>> Ni micro-powder surface, reduce (or partly reduce) the surface so the iron
>>>> nanoparticles can alloy with the Ni, and then go back and strongly oxidize
>>>> the metals.  When the iron oxidizes, it grows in volume and I hypothesize
>>>> that it will wedge open a nanocrack.  If the iron is then partly reduced it
>>>> becomes an H2 splitting catalyst, right at the site of the crack.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> What a beautiful structure I imagine that to be – a nanocrack with a
>>>> sweep of hydron boundary conditions with an H2 splitting catalyst at its
>>>> mouth.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Bob****
>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>>> Cluj, Romania
>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>>
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>> --
>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>> Cluj, Romania
>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
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