It is possible that I have a great contribution  to the misunderstndings.
If you indeed agree with the non-uniformity of yje internal part of the
cracks:
  *I do not think a crack is equally active along its length.*
*
*
perhaps this can be included in your model. Success!

Peter


On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote:

> Peter, I'm simply telling you what your comments mean to me. I'm not
> thinking in your place. If I have gotten the wrong understanding from what
> you have written, than you are free to tell me and to correct your writings
> so that other people do not also get the wrong impression, which is clearly
> the case.
>
> I do not think a crack is equally active along its length. I'm only
> proposing that somewhere in the gap, the fusion reaction is possible. I
> have described ALL aspects of the model. I'm only giving the broad
> requirements. Once these are accepted, you will be told more details.  I
> see no reason to waste my time if the basic claim is rejected. I would
> rather spend my time using the model to make the effect work.
>
> Ed
> On Aug 23, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Peter Gluck wrote:
>
> Dear Ed.
>
> I would ask you to not think in my place, I really don't like it.It is
> typical for dictatures and I had enough from it starting with :"Der Fuhrer
> denkt fur uns alle" and ending with Ceausescu's omniscience. I have the
> right to think independently.
> Citing you:
> *you are assuming that D+Pd involves a different mechanism, a different
> NAE, and different nuclear products. *
> Clearly the products of reaction are different for Pd and Ni H simply
> because
> the reactants are different. I have NOT told that the mechanism of reaction
> are different.
> A question for you- a crack however beautiful is inherently very asymmetric
> do you think a crack nanometers broad but microns or even millimeters long
> is equally active along its entire lengths? Isn't it more plausible that
> inside
> this labyrinthic formation there are some even more preferential short
> areas
> where the activity is focused? And are you convinced that thse short areas
> are so different from a nanostructure? Couldn't be the things a bit more
> complicated but actually more unitary- as you otherwise also suggest?
>
> I think it is not possible to decide now sitting at our PC's if Nature uses
> only one soltion or more for creating excess energy. It is more useful
> to find new ways to force Nature to give us what we need and want
> and not care so much if she is whining a bit for that.
>
> Peter
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> On Aug 23, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Peter Gluck wrote:
>>
>> Dear Bob,
>>
>> Thank you for the idea of cracks' aesthetics! I know it well, I think
>> you have remarked the second Motto by Leonard Cohen based
>> on this idea..
>> It happens that very early in my professional career I learned about the
>> beauty and variety of cracks -when working at the Civil Engineering
>> Faculy of the Timisoara- Polytechnics, Chair of Concrete. It is a world
>> of cracks in concrete see e.g.
>> http://indecorativeconcrete.com/idcn/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Why-Concrete-Cracks.pdf
>> Mistery and beauty are different from function. Let's admit the possible
>> role
>> cracks in Pd in the FPCell, is this something good for the results?
>> However Paintelli's process is based on very smart and beautiful
>> nanostructures more sophisticated and educated as cracks, and LENR+ uses
>> the high art of nanoplasmonics.
>>
>>
>> How do you know this Peter?  Besides, you are assuming that D+Pd involves
>> a different mechanism, a different NAE, and different nuclear products.
>> Consequently, the number of miracles is squared rather than reduced. Do you
>> really want to go down that path? What happens the effect occurs using Ti?
>>  Does this involve an additional method and mechanism?  What how is tritium
>> formed? Is this reaction different in Ni compared to Pd?
>>
>>  I believe the phenomenon is so rare and unusual that only one condition
>> and mechanism would be able to cause it. You take the opposite view, that
>> every material and isotope requires a different method and NAE.  This gives
>> people a choice. I wonder how the vote would go?
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> ,
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Recently, Peter published in his blog his reasons for hoping that the
>>> NAE aren’t cracks. After considering it, I believe he misses the
>>> uniqueness, durability, and beauty of the cracks that are being considered.
>>> ****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> To the uniqueness point…  Consider that a crack is different than just
>>> two surfaces in close proximity. A crack is like a horn with a throat of
>>> minimum gap: the lattice spacing.  Imagine the throat at x=0 with the crack
>>> surface spacing widening as x increases.  The crack provides a unique
>>> environment in its smallest regions.  Near x=0, the environment for a
>>> hydron asymptotically approaches that of the lattice.  In this region,
>>> electron orbitals extend across or at least into the crack.  Perhaps in
>>> this near-lattice spacing there is only room for an H+ ion (the case for
>>> Ni, but for Pd there is room at the lattice spacing for a neutral monatomic
>>> hydron).  As x increases, the crack surface spacing (the gap) increases
>>> allowing room for neutral monatomic hydrons.  At greater x, the crack
>>> spacing would support neutral H2 molecules, and beyond this, the crack is
>>> probably uninteresting.  This unique gradient of hydron boundary conditions
>>> always exists in the crack near it throat (near x=0), even if the crack
>>> were to begin zipping itself open.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> To the durability point…  In my past I had occasion to work with MEMS
>>> structures.  When I first saw MEMS cantilever beams being used for switches
>>> and other functions, my first thought was, “Those are going to break!”
>>> What I learned was that a structure’s strength is inversely proportional to
>>> its size.  So a building scaled twice as large will be half as strong.
>>> This is why you can drop an ant from as high as you wish and he will hit
>>> the ground running.  Compare a 3 meter diving board (cantilever) to a 3
>>> micron cantilever – the 3 micron cantilever will be a million times more
>>> robust.  The cracks being considered for NAE are nanoscale cracks, but our
>>> natural experience is with cracks having dimensions of ~1cm.  A 10nm crack,
>>> will be a million times more mechanically robust than a 1cm crack.  At the
>>> nanoscale, the two split apart surfaces will be very stiff and behind the
>>> throat of the crack (x<0) there will be compression forces trying to
>>> restore the crack to its closed position.  The surfaces may also experience
>>> a Casimir closing force.  A nanoscale crack will have strong forces trying
>>> to heal itself.****
>>>
>>> ****
>>>
>>> If nanocracks can heal, then how would the nanocrack form in the first
>>> place and what could keep the surfaces apart?  I believe a wedge of atom(s)
>>> or molecule(s) is needed in the gap to keep the crack open, and perhaps to
>>> form it in the first place.  That is why I am using nanoparticles that will
>>> alloy with Ni and then I am oxidizing the structure.  I use iron oxide
>>> nanoparticles.  I put down the oxide nanoparticles disposed all across the
>>> Ni micro-powder surface, reduce (or partly reduce) the surface so the iron
>>> nanoparticles can alloy with the Ni, and then go back and strongly oxidize
>>> the metals.  When the iron oxidizes, it grows in volume and I hypothesize
>>> that it will wedge open a nanocrack.  If the iron is then partly reduced it
>>> becomes an H2 splitting catalyst, right at the site of the crack.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> What a beautiful structure I imagine that to be – a nanocrack with a
>>> sweep of hydron boundary conditions with an H2 splitting catalyst at its
>>> mouth.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Bob****
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>> Cluj, Romania
>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Peter Gluck
> Cluj, Romania
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>
>
>


-- 
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Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

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