http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v406/n6798/abs/406863a0.html
*Cooper instability of composite fermions* This should answer your question about cooper pairing and how it happens. On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:21 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > Bob, > > I am a bit confused about how the electron pair acts like a -2 charge in > an atom according to your theory. Do you visualize the -2 charge pair > orbiting a nucleus of hydrogen for example in this description? Or, are > they moving together as a pair that does not require a positive charge to > keep them together? > > It is good to see that you have been considering the pairing of electrons > as a unit. That is the root of my question about whether or not electrons > repel each other at all normal distances. Much depends upon how the spin > generated magnetic field falls off with distance when compared with > electric field fall off. > > The Dirac articles imply that the energy associated with the spin magnetic > field is greater than that of the energy needed to free up the epos. I > find this very interesting and also leads me to question the normal pair > production concept. My tendency is to cling to the COE with all claws > until no other explanation can be proven. > > If epos actually exist, they would be neutral and difficult to isolate. > One might suggest that a large magnetic field might be able to pull them > apart in a matter somewhat like we are considering for the activity of LENR > systems. There seems to be so many possible avenues to explore as we > attempt to explain how nuclear reactions can occur at low temperatures. > Spin coupling via strong magnetic forces still offers the best solutions in > my estimate. It will be ironic if it turns out that the high energy > physics experiments totally miss this means of interaction due to the very > fact that they operate at such elevated energy levels and low densities. > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Wed, Apr 30, 2014 6:50 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Electron Repulsion Versus Distance > > Dave-- > > Also it has been my concept that the pair act like a -2 charge in an > atom. The dipole interaction distance is fairly short compared to the 1/r > associated with a bare charge. I also like to think of the attraction as > a spin coupling effect not unlike the spin orbit force discussed in the > following item: The mechanism is not described very well in this item > however. > > arXiv.org <http://arxiv.org/> > > nucl-ex<http://arxiv.org/list/nucl-ex/recent>> arXiv:1401.1593v1 > > > > Bob > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* MarkI-ZeroPoint <zeropo...@charter.net> > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:06 AM > *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:Electron Repulsion Versus Distance > > Dave asked: > “The fact that a pair of electrons can work together even though they are > repelled by the electric charge they possess leads me to wonder how they > ever work as a pair.” > Just one more of the inconsistencies in modern fizzix dogma… > > If the electron/hole is modeled as a dipole-like oscillation, then the > answer to your question Is very simple… two electron-oscillations 180 > degrees out of phase will ‘couple’, and the complementary ends together > will cancel what we call ‘charge’, the pair is free to move w/o being > influenced by other charged entities in the lattice. > > -Mark > > *From:* David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com <dlrober...@aol.com?>] > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 30, 2014 7:57 AM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* [Vo]:Electron Repulsion Versus Distance > > We have been discussing spin coupling as one element that might allow LENR > to proceed without dangerous radiation emissions. And, it is well known > that super conductive materials use Cooper pairs of electrons to operate. > > The fact that a pair of electrons can work together even though they are > repelled by the electric charge they possess leads me to wonder how they > ever work as a pair. The force of repulsion between two like charges > varies as the square of the distance separating them according to the E > field distribution. The closer they approach each other, the stronger is > the repulsion. But magnetic near field effects vary as the third order > with distance for two pole sources. > > If the electrons find a way to allow the magnetic attraction to be > positive by for example having opposite spin, then is there a certain > distance where the two forces balance out? If so, one might expect the two > to actually become attracted to each other when closer approach occurs. > So, does spin of an electron lead to a magnetic field that can actually > allow a pair to become attracted at very close ranges? > > If the attraction possibility exists would it be demonstrated in a beam of > electrons traveling within a vacuum? The relative velocity and hence > temperature variation along the beam can be reduced significantly by > adjusting the source and control electrodes. > > Another question that immediately comes to the table is whether or not > pairs of electrons are the natural manner in which they exist within > metals, etc. Do techniques exist that can prove that they are individuals > under normal conditions or do we just make that assumption? Perhaps > slightly elevated temperatures break apart the weak connection that exists > between pairs or relatively small electromagnetic fields tear them apart > under test conditions. > > One observation that appears valid is that electrons certainly occur in > pairs around nuclei. Could that be their normal state of existence? > > Dave > >
