On Saturday 10 October 2009 23:36, Jonathan Leonard wrote: > Truth be told there is no procedure or standard or > tutorial for 3.0 right now. We get used to getting kernels from Free and > now Robin shows up with .31 on the dev list that I can't install then > someone tells you to stop improvising - BULL5H1T. There is no standard > operating procedure and trying things out on your own is entirely useful.
I'm sure Ralf is a nice chap, and I wish him all the best in his testing, but that's missing the point. If a new user comes to this list and reviews posts over the last 6 months, what is he/she going to see? Probably about 70% of them are from Ralf, listing a variety of "problems" he is having with 64Studio. The new user may conclude that this is a buggy distro, or (worse) that Linux is a no good for audio (and IIRC Ralf has actually said this directly in a couple of posts), when nothing could be farther from the truth. The irony is that these "problems" are (so far as I can see) not inherent in the distro as released. They are actually "problems" that he has created, some of them stemming from things he has done on the hoof to "sort out" other "problems" he has had (or created). Suppose I decide to replace the round wheels on my Citroen with square ones, and then go to the garage to complain that it bumps a lot when I drive along - what do you think they'll say? SOP does not mean taking things to bits - it wouldn't be "standard" otherwise. I personally cannot actually recall one of Ralf's posts being useful to me (apart from the Animata one), and I've been on this list for a couple of years. You obviously have a different opinion - fine. I take Quentin's point about Ralf "hounding" a problem, but how widespread *are* his problems? Who else is having them? I don't remember a loud chorus of "me too"s to *any* of his posts. I think it might not be so bad if we had the occasional post, with a well-argued use case and a clear statement of the problem. But posts seem to come at random, with post-post-post-scripts, and they just get a bit wearing. I can sort that out for myself by filtering Ralf's posts directly into the wastebin, but I think that still doesn't address the wider "impression" point I mentioned above. Incidentally, I believe Robin said that the .31 kernel wasn't really ready for use yet. Do you think there might be a connection between that and your install difficulties??? -- Pob hwyl / Best wishes Kevin Donnelly www.cymraeg.org.uk - Welsh-English autotranslator www.eurfa.org.uk - Geiriadur rhydd i'r Gymraeg _______________________________________________ 64studio-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-users
