On 10/11/09, Dave Phillips <[email protected]> wrote:
> Kevin Donnelly wrote:
>> If a new user comes to this list and reviews posts over the last 6 months,
>>
>> what is he/she going to see? Probably about 70% of them are from Ralf,
>> listing a variety of "problems" he is having with 64Studio. The new user
>> may
>> conclude that this is a buggy distro, or (worse) that Linux is a no good
>> for
>> audio (and IIRC Ralf has actually said this directly in a couple of
>> posts),
>> when nothing could be farther from the truth.
>>
>> The irony is that these "problems" are (so far as I can see) not inherent
>> in
>> the distro as released. They are actually "problems" that he has created,
>>
>> some of them stemming from things he has done on the hoof to "sort out"
>> other "problems" he has had (or created).
> I'm of two minds about this topic. First, I believe that since Ralf is a
> member of this community he has every right to communicate with it as
> best he's able. Ralf has stated that he has some problems with his
> English, but I think that in general he expresses himself clearly
> enough. He has valuable experience dating from roughly the same time as
> myself (i.e. the MIDI revolution of the 1980s), he's enthusiastic, and
> he doesn't give up easily. These qualities are admirable in any of us.
>
> Now, my second mind: Like Ralf, I work with 64 Studio (2.1 and 3.0 beta)
> in a heavily customized environment. I've replaced the window manager, I
> use closed-source nVidia drivers, I compile main audio applications
> myself (so I need a complete toolchain for such work), I replaced the
> old version of JACK, and so forth. However, unlike Ralf I do not
> typically write to this list regarding problems I have with my systems.
> As Kevin wrote, my problems are usually due to my customizations, and I
> do *not* expect support from the maintainers for a situation clearly
> "other" than the circumstances for which the distribution was originally
> designed.
>
> Daniel and Free have done a superb job of creating possibly the most
> stable audio-centric Linux distribution (props to Planet CCRMA here
> too). I usually test a new release of the distro in an unmodified
> environment for a while, then I start busting it up to make it mine.
> Having done so to my satisfaction I believe that I would be confusing
> and possibly angering the designers and maintainers if I complain about
> the distro I've just re-made. Ergo, Google is my main friend until or
> unless I simply can't solve the problem without contacting Daniel or Free.
>
> Finally, a word about mail filters. If someone truly doesn't want to
> read and/or be bothered by a member's posts, just create a mail filter.
> I've done so for a few names, it works a charm. No messy mailbox, what I
> don't want goes straight to the Junk box (currently populated with
> notices from my high-school class reunion organizers).
>
> Best,
>
> dp
>
> _______________________________________________
Hi people,
First, I ask for U.L. (United Linux) observer status as I don't use
64studio, & to me, that limits my right to interfere here a bit. I've
followed this list for a year & 1/2 or so, after I'd assembled a new
box for audio & was hot to check out 64studio.
But 64studio, & other Debian-based install discs I tried, failed to
see the system drive to install to - Western Digital Caviar SE16
WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA, btw - so, I gave up. I
think this is my 1st post to this list, maybe not. Hey, I'm lazy. I
never even took the effort to unsubscribe.
The preceding stuff is only to indicate that I seem the opposite of
Ralf. As a list member, who would you prefer on the list, me or Ralf?
Who would the developers prefer if their goal is to improve the
distro? This isn't pointed at anyone, but I've never quite understood
the backlash to Ralf's posts. Or I do & the backlash resembles
personality clashes, different methods of working & posting, &
variance in what entails a legitimate problem.
Ralf is one reason I'm still subscribe to this list. To someone with
more Linux experience (or less), perhaps Ralf's psots seem like
irrelevant or harmful chatter. For me, many of his descriptions of
tweaks, experimentation, & attempts to work through problems are
valuable fodder for thinking about why I might want to customize
something, what issues I might encounter, ways of working toward a
solution, or asking myself would it be worth the bother, etc. I tend
to skim his posts because I'm sometimes overwhelmed by the details,
limited by time, & not being on a Debian-based system, often it's more
the general audio/Linux incite I read for anyway.
All I'm saying is, for this list, Ralf seems worth a 1,000 people like
me. No wait... Did I say that? OK, maybe there's space for everyone.
-s
p.s. OT Dave, this wasn't really a response to your post here, only
stealing the chance to comment on 3 blues #'s from your recent LAU
post . Your vocal's shine. Seems you were channeling an early BB King
live set that night. Sweet bass, & the whole trio sounded pretty
dynamo!
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