You're right. An element referred by aria-errormessage can be an alert of live region and thus should be announced by a screen reader, when it pops up. In this case, it seems the screen reader may need to find a context element, and if this is true, then the reverse relation is needed.
aria-details are different, since they are more like labels and descriptions, and I guess thus they should be skipped when navigating the virtual buffer. That suggests that aria-details either needs a role (or xml-roles object attribute) or a reverse relation. On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Brett Lewis <ble...@vfo-group.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Is that documented somewhere? > > I read through the information on error and I don’t see anything about AT > skipping error messages if encountering them while reading through the > virtual buffer. > > Have I misunderstood something? > > Thanks, > > Brett > > > > *Brett Lewis* > > *VFO* | Software Engineer > > 11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 > > *T* 727-299-6270 > > ble...@vfo-group.com > > www.vfo-group.com > > > > > > *From:* Alexander Surkov [mailto:surkov.alexan...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 07, 2016 8:02 AM > *To:* Brett Lewis <ble...@vfo-group.com> > *Cc:* Richard Schwerdtfeger <sch...@us.ibm.com>; ja...@nvaccess.org; > jdi...@igalia.com; accessibility-...@lists.linux-foundation.org > *Subject:* Re: Reverse relationships > > > > Hi, Brett. > > Can you please elaborate your use case? My understanding is AT skips > error/details, if the user encounters them, but announce them, when the > user navigates to an element related with error/details. Why would AT need > to find a related element by error/details? > > Thanks. > > Alex. > > > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Brett Lewis <ble...@vfo-group.com> wrote: > > Hi Rich, > > I think we do need the reverse relationships. > > Web authors can place the error/details anywhere on the page and there > doesn’t seem to be any simple way for the user to determine what element > the error message or details applies to without such a reverse relation. > > Brett > > > > > > *Brett Lewis* > > *VFO* | Software Engineer > > 11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 > > *T* 727-299-6270 > > ble...@vfo-group.com > > www.vfo-group.com > > > > > > *From:* Richard Schwerdtfeger [mailto:sch...@us.ibm.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2016 12:57 PM > *To:* ja...@nvaccess.org; surkov.alexan...@gmail.com; Brett Lewis < > ble...@vfo-group.com>; jdi...@igalia.com > *Cc:* accessibility-...@lists.linux-foundation.org > *Subject:* Reverse relationships > > > > We need agreement: > > > > Should the error message and details relationships have reverse mappings? > > > > Rich > > > > > > Rich Schwerdtfeger > > > > >
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