I have not checked. We have been trying to work with you on this first and that has taken well over a week on just figure. We are now working with other browser and ATVs now. The current mapping also does not require an API change.
Rich Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:47 AM, Alexander Surkov <surkov.alexan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Rich Schwerdtfeger <richsch...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> Hi Alex, >> >> That is indeed what ARIA has as the HTML AAM points to that mapping in ARIA >> Core: >> http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/core-aam/core-aam.html#role-map-figure >> >> and the HTML AAM points to it. So, for the figure role we are all set. >> >> Is that currently implemented in Firefox when you an element with >> role=“figure”? … ROLE_SYSTEM_GROUPING and xml-roles:figure object attrib > > It's not yet implemented in Firefox. Btw, do you know if other browsers have > supported it? > >> >> If you do already, I will work with Windows ATVs to start supporting it on >> Windows. > > HTML:figure is accessible in Firefox. ARIA role='figure' should have > identical mapping. If screen readers support HTML:figure, then they don't > have to make any extra effort to support ARIA role='figure'. > > >> Please map that for for SVG elements when it is applied as well. Then we can >> discuss their participating in a list of figures in ATVs as part of the AT >> UIs. >> >> Rich >> >> >> >> Rich Schwerdtfeger >> >> >> >> >>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 1:00 PM, Alexander Surkov <asur...@mozilla.com> wrote: >>> >>> Thank you, Marcos. >>> >>> I'm getting lost in the discussion as it goes in two separate >>> threads/groups (IAccessible2 one and SVG groups). >>> >>> I buy Doug's argument [1] that non browser SVG tools may not implement >>> HTML, but still they are keen to support ARIA to make their products >>> accessible. This argument can be a justification for ARIA figure role >>> I think. >>> >>> Having said that, I'm adherent to the idea of re-using HTML elements >>> in SVG documents. The author should be able to use standard HTML and >>> SVG blocks to make the content accessible. <foreingObject> perhaps is >>> not the most convenient structure to embed HTML into SVG, but it >>> works, which makes ARIA role='figure' less valuable in the browser's >>> word. >>> >>> I don't think that ARIA role='figure', implemented in the browsers, >>> may harm anyone, I'd be interesting though to hear from other browsers >>> on this topic. >>> >>> Rich, I think ARIA role='figure' should have same IAccessible2 mapping >>> as HTML figure element has, which is ROLE_SYSTEM_GROUPING and >>> xml-roles:figure object attribute. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> Alexander. >>> >>> [1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2016Sep/0053.html >>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 1:19 AM, Marcos Caceres <mcace...@mozilla.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> On September 15, 2016 at 2:10:09 PM, Rich Schwerdtfeger >>>> (richsch...@gmail.com) wrote: >>>>> Alex, both Doug and Anna have expressed to you the opinion of the SVG >>>>> working group to not >>>>> have those elements in SVG. At this point the discussion on adding or >>>>> using them is not >>>>> productive. >>>> >>>> With all due respect, if Mozilla is supposed to implement this, we >>>> need our queries addressed properly. >>>> >>>> Mozilla's position is that developers should be able to use existing >>>> HTML element/attributes in SVG, where they are >>>> semantically/structurally useful. It clearly doesn't make sense to >>>> redefine things that are in HTML in some new SVG version. >>>> >>>> I would kindly ask that Alex's requests for clarification are addressed. >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> Marcos >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Accessibility-ia2 mailing list >> Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org >> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/accessibility-ia2 >
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