pilgrims On 1/30/12, Vamshi. G <gvamsh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well, this seems to be a very interesting subject. once I finish my > PhD, I may take up a research on this subject. My sample consists of > born blind, late blind, deteriorating vision conditions, perfect > vision before becoming blind, etc., etc. I would like to know the > extent and variety of visualisations in dreams across these > categories. Interested people can join me. But as I said, after 3 > months. > > Vamshi > mobile: 9949349497 > -----Original message----- >> On 1/25/12, Pankaj Kwatra <pankaj.kwa...@tecnovate.co.in> wrote: >>> Hello All, >>> >>> Brain power is really unexplored by science. How can a blind person see >>> faces of people with just listening to their voice or shake hand but it >>> is true. The image of any place is formed by spending some time at a >>> particular area. How can person with no vision guide complete route on >>> road without any visual inputs. The sense of smell , taste and hearing >>> becomes powerful , you can judge things by mere heat where every living >>> or mechanical energy in this world emits heat .The smell sensation >>> becomes very powerful , it becomes difficult to control but it can be >>> done with practice. Hearing power keeps the volume at 1 or it can go >>> down to minimum if focused with no distraction. >>> >>> RGDS, >>> >>> Pankaj Kwatra >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shadab >>> Husain >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 8:07 PM >>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, & >>> hearing /speech impaired. >>> >>> In some dreams I see all the colours and faces while in some not. My >>> laptop, I learnt a few days ago, is black. But I had thought that it >>> is my favourite white, and I continue to see it white! I wear a jacket >>> which is gray and black, but I used to think that it is my favourite >>> blue and still I see it blue! I lost vision gradually but pretty >>> curiously I suddenly realised that I have actually lost a considerable >>> amount of it because I was habitual of seeing things. This time also >>> my eyes are full of colours and brightness. Thank you, God! >>> >>> On 1/24/12, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote: >>>> Well, due to memory and reflexive habit, we tend to visualize to the >>> extent >>>> we could actually see once. >>>> >>>> This holds true for totally blind as well, for totally blind even by >>> birth >>>> are not usually plunged into total darkness unless they don't have >>> eyes and >>>> so on. >>>> So, we cannot go beyond actual visual percepts, not even in our >>> dreams. >>>> So, I hold all claims of inner eyes etc. to be totally bogus and >>> direly >>>> misplaced... >>>> A person who has never experienced light would essentially dream in a >>> way >>>> which does not include light, as I do dream without experiencing color >>> as I >>>> have never experienced it, and experience light only to a limited >>> degree >>>> which corresponds to my actual light perception. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bijal >>> patel >>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 2:31 PM >>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, & >>>> hearing /speech impaired. >>>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> I lost my vision gradually and now even no light perception. If I am >>>> talking about dreams, no any difference between present and past. Same >>>> human being's faces, moments and world which I saw earlier. In my >>>> daily routine life, I feel same visualization of objects, places and >>>> relatives of which I saw in my past. Many times, during conversation, >>>> my mind starts to imajine very minor human actions like moments of >>>> eyes, lips, nose, including entire body according opposite person's >>>> voice and situation. So several times, I forget whether I have really >>>> no vision. I don't know it's a power of strong imagination, >>>> visualization or memory. Yes, it's true, now having no colour >>>> perception, my mind doesn't focus on colouring world, so many times, I >>>> use to ask colour of objects, and then no problem! >>>> Still waiting for experiences of totally/blind members. >>>> While writing mail, one more query, Is there any devise which can show >>>> our visualization or night dreams? Really smiling. >>>> Thanks a lot for all interest. >>>> Bijal. >>>> >>>> On 1/24/12, hemase...@ingvysyabank.com <hemase...@ingvysyabank.com> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I too lost my vision over a 10 year deteriorating period. I cont see >>> any >>>>> images.con't even see my parents faces. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]On Behalf Of Sudhir R >>>>> (NeSTIT) >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:41 PM >>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI,& >>>>> hearing /speech impaired. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Did you lose your eye sight instantaneously (as in an accident like >>>>> Harish) or over a very brief period of time (like Payal ) ? >>>>> >>>>> In such cases, the images stored in your brain must be crystal clear >>>>> till the "n- 1'st moment. >>>>> >>>>> In my case, I lost my vision over a 10 year deteriorating period >>>>> Perhaps, my brain stored progressively degraded images. >>>>> >>>>> Does this explain the difference between the two sets of >>> contradictory >>>>> reports ? (smile) >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Sandeep >>>>> Singh >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:33 PM >>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, >>> & >>>>> hearing /speech impaired. >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> My experience is totally different. I still see the images and >>>>> colours and evrything else as vividly as I used to. I can even see >>>>> the faces of people exactly as I remember them and also as Harish >>>>> wrote of those I have never seen. >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Sandeep >>>>> >>>>> At 11:54 AM 24-01-12, you wrote: >>>>>>Yes, indeed, Rajesh, there is a gradual deterioration in the quality >>> of >>>>>>images during dreams over the last 11 years of my total sight >>>>>>impairment. As if, the archived visual data is degrading over a >>>>> period >>>>>>of time. >>>>>> >>>>>>This is surprising, since I was under the impression that the >>> brain >>>>>>continued to store information with data integrity even long after >>> the >>>>>>individual could actually recollect it. I have read about >>> experiments >>>>>>where electrical stimulation of brain areas made the person actually >>>>>>hear a song long after he had ceased to remember it. Your considered >>>>>>views on this interesting subject, please, as an expert in human >>>>>>Psychology. (smile) >>>>>> >>>>>>RS >>>>>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>>>>>[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, >>>>>>Rajesh >>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:09 AM >>>>>>To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>>>Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, >>> & >>>>>>hearing /speech impaired. >>>>>> >>>>>>I wonder how clearly those who have lost sight late in life can have >>>>>>visual perceptions in dreams? >>>>>>Whether clarity diminishes with passage of time? because they don't >>>>> have >>>>>>visual sensations now in their waking life? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>>>>>[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kotian, >>> H >>>>> P >>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:58 AM >>>>>>To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>>>Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, >>> & >>>>>>hearing /speech impaired. >>>>>> >>>>>>Hi Bijal >>>>>> >>>>>>I suppose, dreams are just the manifestation of the world of your >>>>>>awakened conscious state. What ever gives sensory inputs, those would >>>>> be >>>>>>reflected in the dream state. >>>>>> >>>>>>Continuing with Vetri's comments, sexual experiences in dream would >>> be >>>>>>triggered by biological factors like those of hormones, scent, >>> thoughts >>>>>>etc. >>>>>> >>>>>>Interesting topic. >>>>>>Harish Kotian. >>>>>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: bijal patel [mailto:bijalpatel...@gmail.com] >>>>>>Sent: 23 January 2012 23:11 >>>>>>To: accessindia >>>>>>Subject: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, & >>>>>>hearing /speech impaired. >>>>>> >>>>>>Dear friends, >>>>>>It's just my curiosity to know about dreams during night of totally >>>>>>and born blind as well as hearing/speech impaired person. >>>>>>How are the dreams of such persons who never see colours in life? 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