I do agree that fantom imagery does take place. Even whatever I could see in my childhood which was not at all very much, and was mainly confined to perceiving open windows distinguishing between a bus and a truck and seeing Sun or its reflection and the like, continues to be recreated even in my waking life whenever I pay attention to it. In my trip to Dehradun last year, I was actually mesmerized to actually see in my own limited way, the reflection of setting sun in the river. It brings home richness of visual sense, and also that we continue to recreate in our brains the sensory impressions we once had.
However, my visual sense was not to the extent where I may judge whether the visualization in waking or dreaming is fading away now or not. So, it is interesting to hear contradictory reports on this. Maybe, duration of sight loss has some correlation to it. But, as Sandeep says, he lost it over a prolonged period like Sudhir.' So, why the difference? It is an open question, and I welcome any opinions on it. And yes, whether visualization/recollection in waking life and that in dreams differs in some significant ways? For me, It doesn't. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sudhir R (NeSTIT) Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, & hearing /speech impaired. Did you lose your eye sight instantaneously (as in an accident like Harish) or over a very brief period of time (like Payal ) ? In such cases, the images stored in your brain must be crystal clear till the "n- 1'st moment. In my case, I lost my vision over a 10 year deteriorating period Perhaps, my brain stored progressively degraded images. Does this explain the difference between the two sets of contradictory reports ? (smile) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sandeep Singh Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, & hearing /speech impaired. Hi, My experience is totally different. I still see the images and colours and evrything else as vividly as I used to. I can even see the faces of people exactly as I remember them and also as Harish wrote of those I have never seen. Best regards, Sandeep At 11:54 AM 24-01-12, you wrote: >Yes, indeed, Rajesh, there is a gradual deterioration in the quality of >images during dreams over the last 11 years of my total sight >impairment. As if, the archived visual data is degrading over a period >of time. > >This is surprising, since I was under the impression that the brain >continued to store information with data integrity even long after the >individual could actually recollect it. I have read about experiments >where electrical stimulation of brain areas made the person actually >hear a song long after he had ceased to remember it. Your considered >views on this interesting subject, please, as an expert in human >Psychology. (smile) > >RS > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Asudani, >Rajesh >Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:09 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, & >hearing /speech impaired. > >I wonder how clearly those who have lost sight late in life can have >visual perceptions in dreams? >Whether clarity diminishes with passage of time? because they don't have >visual sensations now in their waking life? > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kotian, H P >Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:58 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, & >hearing /speech impaired. > >Hi Bijal > >I suppose, dreams are just the manifestation of the world of your >awakened conscious state. What ever gives sensory inputs, those would be >reflected in the dream state. > >Continuing with Vetri's comments, sexual experiences in dream would be >triggered by biological factors like those of hormones, scent, thoughts >etc. > >Interesting topic. >Harish Kotian. > >-----Original Message----- >From: bijal patel [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: 23 January 2012 23:11 >To: accessindia >Subject: [AI] Query regarding night's dreams of totally/born VI, & >hearing /speech impaired. > >Dear friends, >It's just my curiosity to know about dreams during night of totally >and born blind as well as hearing/speech impaired person. >How are the dreams of such persons who never see colours in life? 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